A reminder on how Harper handled the G20 protest in Toronto

taxslave

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Well then especially living in BC, you should be aware of the political landscape of this country.

I'm sure you're familiar with why Liberals are referred to as the natural governing party.
Of course. They rigged the whole electoral system over 100 years ago so that the majority of seats would always be in the east instead of where the money is made.
 
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Of course. They rigged the whole electoral system over 100 years ago so that the majority of seats would always be in the east instead of where the money is made.
Don't you just hate democracy?

And the whole idea that a man with nothing is as good as a corporate director who inherited millions?
 

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Oh, and by the way dicknuts. it was the TORONTO police and the OPP calling the shots in your goofy little OP. Last time I checked the PM isn't in charge of the TPS or the OPP. David Miller, lefty, was Mayor of TO and Blair was his Chief of Police while McFLinty and his gang of illiberals were in charge of Ontario.

In fact, Groper so highly approved of Blair's handling of the protestors that Groper appointed him to cabinet after he won in 2015,

Your chimp-like attempt at whataboutism is an epic failure. So is your chimp-like mentality for that matter.
 

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Oh, and by the way dicknuts. it was the TORONTO police and the OPP calling the shots in your goofy little OP. Last time I checked the PM isn't in charge of the TPS or the OPP. David Miller, lefty, was Mayor of TO and Blair was his Chief of Police while McFLinty and his gang of illiberals were in charge of Ontario.

In fact, Groper so highly approved of Blair's handling of the protestors that Groper appointed him to cabinet after he won in 2015,

Your chimp-like attempt at whataboutism is an epic failure. So is your chimp-like mentality for that matter.
Luckily the 2010 G20 Riot/Protest was mostly peaceful.
 

Jinentonix

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Well then especially living in BC, you should be aware of the political landscape of this country.

I'm sure you're familiar with why Liberals are referred to as the natural governing party.
Calling oneself something is the same as being referred to as that something? Good lord man, you really need to a get a better grip on the English language. Are you ESL or something?

The Liberals call themselves the natural governing party. The ONLY others who call them that are partisan shit pumps who fell into the vat of red Kool-aid when they were kids.
 

Jinentonix

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One man one vote be damned. Only people who make money deserve to be heard (or have their rights respected).
A) Nothing he said from the post you quoted suggests that re-jigging Parliament so that all provinces have equal representation in the House means more than one man, one vote.
B) There are actually lefty activists pushing for a system whereby it's one man, 3-4 votes. They actually want an electoral system where people vote for their choices in order of preference. No chance of abuse there at all. :ROFLMAO:
 

Tecumsehsbones

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A) Nothing he said from the post you quoted suggests that re-jigging Parliament so that all provinces have equal representation in the House means more than one man, one vote.
B) There are actually lefty activists pushing for a system whereby it's one man, 3-4 votes. They actually want an electoral system where people vote for their choices in order of preference. No chance of abuse there at all. :ROFLMAO:
A) Tax and I have had this conversation before. He's made clear what he wants.

B) The steady drone of "Wutabout wutabout wutabout" is actually kinda soothing.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Oh, and by the way dicknuts. it was the TORONTO police and the OPP calling the shots in your goofy little OP. Last time I checked the PM isn't in charge of the TPS or the OPP. David Miller, lefty, was Mayor of TO and Blair was his Chief of Police while McFLinty and his gang of illiberals were in charge of Ontario.

In fact, Groper so highly approved of Blair's handling of the protestors that Groper appointed him to cabinet after he won in 2015,

Your chimp-like attempt at whataboutism is an epic failure. So is your chimp-like mentality for that matter.
"Dicknuts?"

OK, new one on me.

Question: Since ya pee through your dick (or at least I do), wouldn't that make 'em "peenuts?"
 

Jinentonix

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Ahh that was definitely money well spent by Harper.

$16.5M settlement reached in class action lawsuit over mass arrests at 2010 G20 summit

What part of "The PM doesn't control provincial/municipal police" were you having trouble comprehending? It was the TPSB that was sued. The OPP and TPS were calling the shots during that protest, not the RCMP or the PM. It was Toronto's money that was well spent by David Miller.

Headline: Liberal mayor of Toronto and Liberal Premier of Ontario release the hounds on the 2010 G20 protest. Halfwit partisan moron from Mississauga blames Harper.
 

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C'mon now. Who you be foolin?


If the province was derelict in its response, the feds were worse. Harper took no responsibility for his last-minute decision to inflict his project on the heart of the city. And no one examined the legislation under which Harper had acted, in order to ascertain if there are any flaws or weaknesses that should be fixed to prevent a repeat.

 
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taxslave

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One man one vote be damned. Only people who make money deserve to be heard (or have their rights respected).
I know you would love that. All socialists do.
What we want is equal representation. Women are also allowed to vote in this country. One man one vote only works if all the ridings are roughly the same size.
Our problem is that there is a huge discrepancy in the size of the ridings. A few blocks in the city core can have the same population as several thousand sq. miles of a rural riding with a dozen or more communities. This discrepancy makes our so called democracy more like mob rule than democracy.
 
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I know you would love that. All socialists do.
What we want is equal representation. Women are also allowed to vote in this country. One man one vote only works if all the ridings are roughly the same size.
Our problem is that there is a huge discrepancy in the size of the ridings. A few blocks in the city core can have the same population as several thousand sq. miles of a rural riding with a dozen or more communities. This discrepancy makes our so called democracy more like mob rule than democracy.
It was set up so Quebec and Ontario would control then vote . They bamboozelled the maritime provinces to be three separate entities to dilute their vote share and never allowed the western provinces equal representation , in its present state Canada can never change .
 
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I know you would love that. All socialists do.
What we want is equal representation. Women are also allowed to vote in this country. One man one vote only works if all the ridings are roughly the same size.
Our problem is that there is a huge discrepancy in the size of the ridings. A few blocks in the city core can have the same population as several thousand sq. miles of a rural riding with a dozen or more communities. This discrepancy makes our so called democracy more like mob rule than democracy.
The other side of the coin -- if you do your reform -- is why should the will of the majority of the people (living in those dense urban areas) count for less than an over-represented rural area? Right now it is 1 person one vote. The issue is the first past the post voting scheme and the concept of ridings. This allowed the second place finisher to wind up in government. The issue is not regional but how you draw up the ridings. Proportional representation is the fix but that will have its own problems ... perpetual minority governments.
 

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I know you would love that. All socialists do.
What we want is equal representation. Women are also allowed to vote in this country. One man one vote only works if all the ridings are roughly the same size.
Our problem is that there is a huge discrepancy in the size of the ridings. A few blocks in the city core can have the same population as several thousand sq. miles of a rural riding with a dozen or more communities. This discrepancy makes our so called democracy more like mob rule than democracy.
Of course, I by "man," I meant "person." Or do you want to start pissing around with genders?

Do you want people to have votes or hectares to have votes?
 

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C'mon now. Who you be foolin?


If the province was derelict in its response, the feds were worse. Harper took no responsibility for his last-minute decision to inflict his project on the heart of the city.
So where should it have been held? Isn't Toronto supposed to be a world class city? You apes keep yammering like it's the center of the fucking universe.
And no one examined the legislation under which Harper had acted, in order to ascertain if there are any flaws or weaknesses that should be fixed to prevent a repeat.
And no one examined the legislation under which Chretien had acted in 1997, in order to ascertain if there were any flaws or weaknesses that should have been fixed to prevent a repeat in Toronto in 2010.
And yet Trudeau so admired the way TPS Superintendent Bill Blair handled the police during the G20 in T.O. that he made him Minister of Public Safety.