A reminder on how Harper handled the G20 protest in Toronto

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If only this was so blatantly obvious that Canadians as a nation could see this coming in advance so they could see it for what it is…..

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OTTAWA — A Parliamentary committee meant to study the Trudeau government’s unprecedented use of the Emergencies Act is stalled as Conservative and Liberals can’t decide who should be on it.

Under the Emergencies Act, a Parliamentary committee, made up of both MPs and Senators, has to be set up to study the government’s use of the legislation. The government will also have to convene an inquiry to dig deeper into the invocation of the act.

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Both the committee and the inquiry are likely to call the prime minister and cabinet ministers to testify about their decision to use the act.

With no agreement so far on the committee’s membership, Liberal House leader Mark Holland has said he will bring a motion to the House of Commons this week calling for a committee with 11 members — seven MPs and four senators.


The Liberals would have three MPs, the Conservatives two, and there would be one Bloc Québécois and one NDP MP, along with four Senators from each of the current groups in the Senate. Holland Specifically does not want a Conservative as one of the co-chairs of the committee.

“The chair would be neither a Liberal, whose government invoked the Emergencies Act, or a Conservative, whose party led the way in supporting protesters,” Holland argued in a statement.

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Both the Conservatives and the Bloc voted against the government’s invocation of the act, but it passed through the House of Commons with NDP support. The act was debated in the Senate but Trudeau Pre-emoted a vote by revoking the act. Hmm…so if the committee is arranged as the Liberals want, then it’s outcome would be determined before it even convened.


Holland said the Conservatives are pushing for a committee where they would call all the shots?

“We are working hard to establish an important committee to represent hundreds of MPs and senators from several parties and groups. Yet the Conservatives insist that they alone should lead this committee.”


The Emergencies Act itself says only that the committee should have at least one member from each recognized party and one Senator from each of those parties as well. The Senate has largely abandoned party affiliations with only the Conservatives keeping a party status.

Conservative House leader John Brassard said the government’s plan is absurd and would stack the deck in the Liberals’ favour. He said the Conservatives offered a different, more balanced structure, but after being rejected by the Liberals, they’re proposing a basic five-member committee, with one MP from each party and a Conservative Senator.

“Because of the absurdity of what the government is trying to implement in terms of this committee structure, we’re going to the default position,” he said.

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“The purpose of the committee is to look at the invocation of the act to figure out whether it was necessary, what information the government had that necessitated this, so oversight is critical,” he said. “If the government can justify its actions and the invocation of the act … and they can hold up to that type of scrutiny, then they should have nothing to hide.”

Brassard said the fact that the Conservatives are the only party to still have official recognition in the Senate is not his party’s problem?

“The prime minister decided to change the composition and structure of the Senate without actually amending the Emergencies Act to reflect the current structure.”


The Liberals have announced plans to update the legislation that governs the Senate to reflect its new non-partisan nature, BUT their last attempt didn’t clear the legislative process before Trudeau launched last year’s election.
As long as the senate is appointed it will never be fair or non partisan.
 

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Until they age out. I believe the age is 75.
So. . . most PMs are Liberal, and the GG usually does what the PM says regarding Senatorial appointments.

Yep, that's a pretty heavy thumb on the scales. . .

I assume the number is fixed, and absent major legislation, ya just gotta wait for 'em to blow out a forest fire on a cake?
 

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So. . . most PMs are Liberal, and the GG usually does what the PM says regarding Senatorial appointments.

Yep, that's a pretty heavy thumb on the scales. . .

I assume the number is fixed, and absent major legislation, ya just gotta wait for 'em to blow out a forest fire on a cake?
Doesn’t really work that way , if the balance of power in the Senate shifts away from the governing party the PM will just increase the amount of Senators .
 

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Doesn’t really work that way , if the balance of power in the Senate shifts away from the governing party the PM will just increase the amount of Senators .
It's temporary.

Section 26 of the Constitution Act, 1867—under which the sovereign may approve the appointment of four or eight extra senators, equally divided among the four regions. The approval is given by the monarch on the advice of the prime minister, and the governor general is instructed to issue the necessary letters patent. This provision has been used only once: in 1990, when Prime Minister Brian Mulroney sought to ensure the passage of a bill creating the Goods and Services Tax (GST). The appointment of eight additional senators allowed a slight majority for the Progressive Conservative Party. There was one unsuccessful attempt to use Section 26, by Prime Minister Alexander Mackenzie in 1874. It was denied by Queen Victoria, on the advice of the British Cabinet.[24] The clause does not result in a permanent increase in the number of Senate seats, however. Instead, an attrition process is applied by which senators leaving office through normal means are not replaced until after their province has returned to its normal number of seats.


and as you can see, it was a Progressive Conservative Prime Minister that did it.
 

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It's temporary.

Section 26 of the Constitution Act, 1867—under which the sovereign may approve the appointment of four or eight extra senators, equally divided among the four regions. The approval is given by the monarch on the advice of the prime minister, and the governor general is instructed to issue the necessary letters patent. This provision has been used only once: in 1990, when Prime Minister Brian Mulroney sought to ensure the passage of a bill creating the Goods and Services Tax (GST). The appointment of eight additional senators allowed a slight majority for the Progressive Conservative Party. There was one unsuccessful attempt to use Section 26, by Prime Minister Alexander Mackenzie in 1874. It was denied by Queen Victoria, on the advice of the British Cabinet.[24] The clause does not result in a permanent increase in the number of Senate seats, however. Instead, an attrition process is applied by which senators leaving office through normal means are not replaced until after their province has returned to its normal number of seats.


and as you can see, it was a Progressive Conservative Prime Minister that did it.
And your point is ?
 

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not very well .
I know, too many big words for you to understand. Since the post was aimed at TB, I wasn't worried about the "big words" as I know he wouldn't have an issue understanding.
 

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I know, too many big words for you to understand. Since the post was aimed at TB, I wasn't worried about the "big words" as I know he wouldn't have an issue understanding.
This didn’t take long . Fuck you and your fucking liberal party and the donkeys you fuck with .
 

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Are you still praying for your daughter’s aborted baby’s soul or is it forgotten ?