Go Woke, Go Broke..

[Jinentonix]

Odd that the new meaning you describe above has come from the right, as if it's some sort of justification for ignoring social injustice. Insult is the first line of defense when the right moves to defend what is ultimately an indefensible position.

Odd that's what you see and yet that is EXACTLY how the ALT-left operates. I don't do emotional and moral relativism. I don't do collective guilt for the past actions of ANYONE! You know whose actions I'm responsible for? MINE! But nahhh, the ALT-left racists insist I'm guilty of something JUST because of ,my skin colour. Not all Black people are criminals. Not all muslims are terrorists. But ALL WHite people are racists. That is part of the "woke" dogma.

I spent the vast bulk of my working life flying supplies in to remote Northern communities. Bush flying is dangerous and it almost killed me, but do you know WHY I did it? Because it combined something I loved (flying) with something that NEEDED to be done. And yet I get called a racist by assholes who do NOTHING for anyone except spew their "righteous morality" online because that takes pretty much NO effort.
And that's becauxse in the "woke" ALT-left mentality, words are FAR more important than actions.

 

[Jinentonix]

What, they should just mind their place ? If God had meant for them to be equal he would have made them white ? The rise of the Alt-left is a direct response to a few centuries of injustice. It was inevitable.

Oh, you were serious? Yeah man, because shit like bigotry and slavery are the sole inventions and domain of the White man and didn't exist at all until 500-600 years ago. Good lord, go learn some f*cking history.

 

[Nick Danger]

Is there a difference between alt-left and left ? Or alt-right and right ? OF course there is. Painting and entire group with one brush based on the actions of extremists isn't accurate or deserved.

It's good that you could find some reward for your work in the north other than just the money. I spent some years in the Arctic with a small regional airline as well, ancient history though. It was an eye-opener for me because up there I was part of a minority (white) and was hated by some simply because I was white. That taught me a lesson that is still with me forty years later. It was also a fact that there were whites up there who saw the locals as inherently inferior, they were just there for the money. That lesson stuck with me too.

I stand by my postion that the new meaning of "woke" comes from people who are decidedly un-woke in the dictionary meaning.

 

[Nick Danger]

Oh, you were serious? Yeah man, because shit like bigotry and slavery are the sole inventions and domain of the White man and didn't exist at all until 500-600 years ago. Good lord, go learn some f*cking history.

More deflection. We are most definately not talking about hundreds of years ago, we are talking in the here and now, and if you're going to try and argue that whites have not positioned themselves at the top of the food chain then you have already lost. And if you want to dive a little deeper into what is wrong with the world, it's not all whites, it's rich whites.

 

[Nick Danger]

And yet I get called a racist...

Have I called you out personally ?

 

[Dixie Cup]

More deflection. We are most definately not talking about hundreds of years ago, we are talking in the here and now, and if you're going to try and argue that whites have not positioned themselves at the top of the food chain then you have already lost. And if you want to dive a little deeper into what is wrong with the world, it's not all whites, it's rich whites.

Maybe YOU are not talking about hundreds of years ago, but the woke Left certainly are - well, at least 200 years ago - less in Canada of course as we've not been in existence as long. WTH do you think tearing down all those statues are about? That's certainly not about "current events'. So there was no "deflection' at all in Jinentonix post.

And if you actually did your homework, you will find that it's not just 'rich whites' that are at issue; how 'bout those Saudi's and the leaders of Hamas & Al Qaeda - do you actually think they go without anything or that they lack the power to control things that the peons in their respective countries have to endure? Oh, and BTW some of those people are Black as well. Might I suggest that the majority of the tyrants in power worldwide are not white.

 

[Nick Danger]

Maybe YOU are not talking about hundreds of years ago,

Correct. I'm talking current events, but it does have roots in the past to be sure. Ruling aristocracies and all that.

but the woke Left certainly are

Is that the dictionary "woke" or have you signed on with the new pejorative "woke".

And if you actually did your homework, you will find that it's not just 'rich whites' that are at issue;

Yes, I was generalizing, I stand corrected. But in my own defense I was talking a little closer to home, US and Canada. And yes, the ruling class here is not entirely white, but on the same token, racism is not restricted to the ruling class either. There are a couple of different discussions to be had there. Where it is now, and where it all came from.

As for your inference that I don't do my homework, same to you with knobs on it.

 

[petros]

Inequality is out of control on a number of fronts, racial and economic being two of the bigger ones, and we're letting the environment turn to shit while we whine about our tax bills.

Are they deliberate or are they lifestyle choice influenced? What's wrong with the environment? Do you travel?

 

[Jinentonix]

More deflection. We are most definately not talking about hundreds of years ago, we are talking in the here and now, and if you're going to try and argue that whites have not positioned themselves at the top of the food chain then you have already lost. And if you want to dive a little deeper into what is wrong with the world, it's not all whites, it's rich whites.

*Yawn* You can't talk about now without talking about THOUSANDS of years of human history, bud. Imperialism is not an invention of Whitey. Colonization is not an invention of Whitey. Racism is a human fault, not a White fault. The mere presence of racists within a society also doesn't automatically equate to systemic racism. I mean for countries like the US and Canada that are supposed to be soooo systemically racist, there sure are a LOT of non-White people in govt and as Police Chiefs and in other important positions.

And if we're NOT talking about hundreds of years ago, then why are ALT-left idiots in the US clamouring that all White people owe Black people reparations for slavery? Sorry bud but you can't spew ALT-left dismissives like "defelction" while ignoring the ALT-left narrative.

 

[Nick Danger]

Are they deliberate or are they lifestyle choice influenced? What's wrong with the environment? Do you travel?

Pick up a book. Don't want to take a chance that a leftie might lie to you now. Teach yourself.

 

[Jinentonix]

Woke: When you live in a country where people whine about things like genocide, slavery and racism while supporting a govt that does full-on business with a country that openly engages in genocide, slave labour and overt racism while you buy all the shit you can that's made in that same country.

Woke: Starting the whole "taking a knee" bullshit to "protest" oppression and then going on TV to whine some more about it while sporting a Che T-shirt and getting paid millions to wear a pair of $200 shoes that some poor sap got paid $5 a day to make, if they were lucky.

Woke: Ignoring a summer of Marxist violence, arson, insurrection and destruction and then shitting your pants over a minor, very short-lived incident at the Capitol. Oh wait, that's not woke, that's just blind partisan retardation.

Woke: Staging the summer of violence, arson, insurrection and destruction and then blaming the other guy for creating a police state as a result.

Woke: Demanding the defunding of the police and then insisting the police protect you from threats because you want to defund the police. Hmmm, I bet not a single threat was investigated.

Woke: Deciding that movies and other art forms made decades ago either need to be erased or remade into today's image because that's what art is supposed to be about. Don't create your own art, just piggy back on a beloved franchise and then proceed to f*cking trash everything about it.

Woke: Watching TV show after movie after TV show after movie that you've remade in your own image and effectively destroyed getting KILLED in the ratings and on reviews and saying, "Nah, it'll be okay" and then doubling down on what's already losing you millions. Because ya know, themes are way more important than actual story telling, if all you're doing is propagandizing that is.

 

[Danbones]

Not a member of some extremist fringe group who thinks the right to free speech is a ticket to usurp the will of the majority. Who thf do you think you are ? I'm not talking everyone with conservative views, and I don't speak for everyone with liberal views. I'm talking directly to mannerless blowhards who think being louder or ruder than the other guy gives them a bigger vote. You fit that bill often enough, are name-calling and insults legitimate tools of discussion in your opinion?

I'm one of those people who believes you have way more RIGHTS to control YOUR OWN EARS than you do to control someone else's mouth.

And my verbiage is born of dealing with the two plus two equals five crowd....constantly...while commies, nazis, and fascists crush kill and eat babies for bankers.

Funny - you could just prove me wrong about something IF you ever figure out what that might be...funny you haven't thought of that already!

 

[petros]

Pick up a book. Don't want to take a chance that a leftie might lie to you now. Teach yourself.

I would but I might get shanked by a stereotypical junkie gangbanger on my walk to the library.

 

[Nick Danger]

Funny - you could just prove me wrong about something IF you ever figure out what that might be...funny you haven't thought of that already!

Who's out to prove anything ? I have my opinions, and you have yours. I called you out on being rude and you gave your reasons, such as they are. Isn't that what little forums like this are for ?

 

[Colpy]

And there's that typically conservative tactic of trying to pretend that conservative attitudes are not at the root of the divisiveness we see all around us today.

Yeah. That tactic is really quite effective, as conservative attitudes are not at the root of the divisiveness we see all around us today.

Intersectionality is not a conservative principle.

 

[Nick Danger]

Yeah. That tactic is really quite effective, as conservative attitudes are not at the root of the divisiveness we see all around us today.

Intersectionality is not a conservative principle.

I had to look that one up, and you are right, it is not an conservative principle, but like the word "woke", it holds different meanings for people of different political persuasions. From where I see it, it all comes down to money, who has it, who doesn't, and the totally lopsided ratio in the way it's divided among our society in general. Economic inequality has its claws in social inequality. Our major political parties are only at fault in that at the end of the day the shots are called by those with the deepest pockets.

 

[pgs]

money makes the world go round , and it is available to any who wish to pursue it .
Your skills provide you with the means to acquire money . Without money your skills would have to be traded for food and housing by some means . Do you want some form of barter as currency ?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I had to look that one up, and you are right, it is not an conservative principle, but like the word "woke", it holds different meanings for people of different political persuasions. From where I see it, it all comes down to money, who has it, who doesn't, and the totally lopsided ratio in the way it's divided among our society in general. Economic inequality has its claws in social inequality. Our major political parties are only at fault in that at the end of the day the shots are called by those with the deepest pockets.

So you are a full out Communist/Marxist. Nobody should have any wealth and everybody should get exactly the same rations regardless of skill or ability.

 

[Nick Danger]

So you are a full out Communist/Marxist. Nobody should have any wealth and everybody should get exactly the same rations regardless of skill or ability.

That's the kind of sensationalist bullshit that has people talking about "the age of ignorance". People banging their lips together trotting out buzzwords without a freakin clue what they're talking about. Canada is already a blend of free market capitalism and socialism. Without socialism you wouldn't have the access to healthcare and education that we have already. We have a progressive income tax system where those who make more pay taxes at a higher rate than those making less. The system is basically good, it's just gotten out of balance favouring a very few at the top, and needs some tweaking. I grew up in a day where a single income could support a mortgage payment, a car payment, decent food on the table and maybe take a family holiday in the summer or send a kid to college. Now it's standard to have both parents working just to make ends meet. This all goes back to the post WW2 industrial boom and the shift away from stakeholder capitalism to a profit-over-people attitude that has given us a shrinking middle class and slowly collapsing social systems.

 

[Dixie Cup]

A video about how CRT is seen from a progressive view. However, what he says isn't true at all.