COVID-19 'Pandemic'

Mockingbird

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A toothache gone bad is equally as deadly.
A 2013 study published in the Journal of Endodontics looked at 61,000 hospitalizations for abscesses between 2000 and 2008, and found that 66 of those patients – or roughly one in 1,000 – died from the infection.Jan 31, 2017


From what I've read, people who eventually die of an abscessed tooth often do so after the infection spreads to other parts of the body, causing sepsis.
 

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Thanks JLM, I'm glad you got off your ass and looked something up.
Now for Dirtybird's question.
No. I would not because embryonic stem cells only come from four to five day old blastocysts or younger embryos. NOT FETUSES
So since "aborted fetuses" arent a source for stem cells you may as well put that shit fight you wanted to start to bed.
My question is,"are you willing to donate your eggs?"


Would I donate my eggs for research purposes if they would aid in advancing the development of treatments that could help people? Yes I would.

I didn't mention embryonic stem cells. Did I want to start a fight? Or did I pose a question for the sake of discussion? Why is posing a question seen as an act of hostility for you? And Dirtybird? If that makes your day more pleasant then by all means, continue calling me Dirtybird, I look at it is a badge of honor and if you think of that, you'll know why.

And aborted fetuses are a source for stem cells:

Characterization of Fetal Tissue-derived Mesenchymal Stem Cells

Mesenchymal stem cells (MSCs) have unique immunologic properties that may someday prove useful in cell-based therapy for various degenerative diseases. Its potential is limited, however, by several factors, including the rarity of these cells and difficulty in isolating them. To evaluate their potential as new sources for cell therapy, we isolated MSCs from human fetal tissue (hfMSC) derived from spontaneous abortus (8∼10 weeks) then studied their cell cycle and cell surface marker expression using a fluorescence-activated cell sorter (FACS), as well as the expression of differentiation markers using real-time polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR). The hfMSCs were able to undergo PCR up to 20 times without displaying significant changes in morphology or expression of various stemness markers (Nanog and human telomerase reverse transcriptase [hAFP]), including germ layer markers (hNF68, alpha-cardiac actin, and hAFP). Also, teratomas were not seen in mice with severe combined immunodeficiency syndrome (SCID) that received a transplantation of hfMSCs with hTERT activity. The FACS analysis revealed that the majority of hfMSCs express mesenchymal markers CD13, CD44, CD71, CD90, CD105, CD253a, and HLA-ABC, but did not express CD31, CD34, CD38, CD45, and HLA-DR. Interestingly, hfMSCs derived from the cell membrane during early passages were negative for both HLA-ABC and HLA-DR, although HLA-ABC expression was detected during later passages (>20 passages). We found that hfMSCs could be differentiated into an osteogenic lineage; this was indicated by modulation of osteoblast markers specific for mRNA. We conclude that hfMSCs could be used as a new source of cells to treat patients with osteogenic diseases, as well as to understand the mechanisms of immunosuppression by MSCs.

Isolation of human fetal tissues-derived mesenchymal stem cells (hfMSCs)
We collected human fetuses 8 to 10 weeks following therapeutic abortion. Each woman provided written, informed consent before the fetuses were collected. The fetal membrane and yolk sac were extracted, washed with culture medium (Bulbecco modified Eagle medium [DMEM] /F12, low glucose, 10% fetal bovine serum [FBS], 100 U/ml penicillin, and 100μg/ml streptomycin), and minced. The processed tissue was exposed to trypsin/EDTA (0.25% and 0.5 mM, respectively) for 20 minutes at 37°C to liberate individual cells. After centrifugation at 800× g for 20 minutes, isolated cells were collected and cultured at 37°C until significant growth was observed.


You don't like the question posed asking about stem cells from aborted fetuses, okay, lets do it this way. Would you take a drug if you were severely stricken with Covid-19 (I know you think it's a mild infection but play along for the sake of discussion) or any other disease that was life threatening. Would you take a potentially life saving drug that in it's research stages was tested on cells from aborted fetal tissue?

Oh and if you're referring to the research concerning Covid-19 and sepsis, I provided that information.
 
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JLM

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It puzzles me that some people choose to remain in bad relationships, but getting out isn't always so easy. I've had a couple of friends who were in bad relationships, one a woman and the other a man and both hung in there for far too long. But it's too easy to judge from the outside why people make the choices that they do.


You have to wonder. How long does it the average person to see someone is all talk and no action? Well, to be fair the first guy was pretty handy at golf and the second was pretty handy on the computer. But they could both be nice dressers. :)
 

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Mockingbird

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No you can’t. You call a person bitter , is that not implying he is to small (little ) to let go ?


Nope, a bitter person is someone who holds on to anger stemming from incidents from the past, the term little man is used to describe someone as common or ordinary. And again, you called him little man, I didn't.
 

JLM

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Nope, a bitter person is someone who holds on to anger stemming from incidents from the past, the term little man is used to describe someone as common or ordinary. And again, you called him little man, I didn't.


You have the right idea. " Little man ", to my way of thinking gives off the connotation that is opposite to "magnanimous". Or as some folks would say "petty".
 

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Nope, a bitter person is someone who holds on to anger stemming from incidents from the past, the term little man is used to describe someone as common or ordinary. And again, you called him little man, I didn't.
Whatever . Go find more straws to pull .
 

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��*♂️ This Can’t Be True �� Prom Backwards Dancing �� �� ��

This is incredible. Surely this can’t be our new normal???...

 

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You obviously know little about the Health Care field.


Blackie acts like he knows everything, like most children.

He's yet to grow up and realize he knows not that much at all. Nor does he understand the situation; the worst is the fact he doesn't want to, and shows his lack of not just empathy but basic human decency.
 

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Blackie acts like he knows everything, like most children.

He's yet to grow up and realize he knows not that much at all. Nor does he understand the situation; the worst is the fact he doesn't want to, and shows his lack of not just empathy but basic human decency.
He knows the medical community was and still is pushing the lockdown .
 

JLM

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Blackie acts like he knows everything, like most children.

He's yet to grow up and realize he knows not that much at all. Nor does he understand the situation; the worst is the fact he doesn't want to, and shows his lack of not just empathy but basic human decency.


You have him pegged right to a tee...…………….. a lot of bluster, very little substance is the polite way of putting it, otherwise "a pain in the...……………"