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Good Grief - most cops are good ones; very few bad ones but you'd think that all cops were bad. Unfortunately, while technology is good, it can also be used to perpetuate incorrect assumptions which has become more common now. The MSM are constantly telling lies about what is happening - saying that the protesters are being peaceful while looting and attacks against cops and businesses who are trying to protect their property are taking place. Total hypocrisy by the MSM spewing lies to make themselves feel superior?? Not sure what they want to accomplish but it looks like they want to ensure chaos ensues - all to take down a President who they hate. It's unbelievable that they get away with the lies.

Hopefully, Americans will turn more to independent news to get the FULL picture of what is happening on their streets and how weak their leaderships are in their cities & States.
 

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Good Grief - most cops are good ones; very few bad ones but you'd think that all cops were bad. Unfortunately, while technology is good, it can also be used to perpetuate incorrect assumptions which has become more common now. The MSM are constantly telling lies about what is happening - saying that the protesters are being peaceful while looting and attacks against cops and businesses who are trying to protect their property are taking place. Total hypocrisy by the MSM spewing lies to make themselves feel superior?? Not sure what they want to accomplish but it looks like they want to ensure chaos ensues - all to take down a President who they hate. It's unbelievable that they get away with the lies.

Hopefully, Americans will turn more to independent news to get the FULL picture of what is happening on their streets and how weak their leaderships are in their cities & States.


It just takes one rotten apple to ruin the barrel!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It just takes one rotten apple to ruin the barrel!
I know basic reasoning isn't real popular on this board, but let's give it a shot. . .

This was a radio-dispatched call for a guy passing a bad $20.

We can assume that the four officers who showed up were pretty random, based on whomever happened to be closest to the address of the call.

Then one of them knelt on the neck of a man who was in handcuffs for 8 1/2 minutes, and the others either knelt on other parts of his body, or simply stood by and did nothing about it.

Let us assume that doing nothing to stop a fellow cop from kneeling on the neck of a restrained suspect who is saying he can't breathe and begging the cops to ease up, not even saying "Dude, lighten up, he's in cuffs," disqualifies one from "good cop" status.

So. . . if "most cops are good cops," what are the odds that among four cops, chosen at random, not one of them was a "good cop?"

Just a thought. I know most folk around here don't think, but for those who do. . .
 

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I know basic reasoning isn't real popular on this board, but let's give it a shot. . .
This was a radio-dispatched call for a guy passing a bad $20.
We can assume that the four officers who showed up were pretty random, based on whomever happened to be closest to the address of the call.
Then one of them knelt on the neck of a man who was in handcuffs for 8 1/2 minutes, and the others either knelt on other parts of his body, or simply stood by and did nothing about it.
Let us assume that doing nothing to stop a fellow cop from kneeling on the neck of a restrained suspect who is saying he can't breathe and begging the cops to ease up, not even saying "Dude, lighten up, he's in cuffs," disqualifies one from "good cop" status.
So. . . if "most cops are good cops," what are the odds that among four cops, chosen at random, not one of them was a "good cop?"
Just a thought. I know most folk around here don't think, but for those who do. . .

We can assume that the four officers who showed up were pretty random, based on whomever happened to be closest to the address of the call.

What happened in this time frame? I am not dismissing what happened below, once the suspect was under control, other means could/should have been used to detain him, besides kneeling on his neck.

Then one of them knelt on the neck of a man who was in handcuffs for 8 1/2 minutes, and the others either knelt on other parts of his body, or simply stood by
 

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I know basic reasoning isn't real popular on this board, but let's give it a shot. . .

This was a radio-dispatched call for a guy passing a bad $20.

We can assume that the four officers who showed up were pretty random, based on whomever happened to be closest to the address of the call.

Then one of them knelt on the neck of a man who was in handcuffs for 8 1/2 minutes, and the others either knelt on other parts of his body, or simply stood by and did nothing about it.

Let us assume that doing nothing to stop a fellow cop from kneeling on the neck of a restrained suspect who is saying he can't breathe and begging the cops to ease up, not even saying "Dude, lighten up, he's in cuffs," disqualifies one from "good cop" status.

So. . . if "most cops are good cops," what are the odds that among four cops, chosen at random, not one of them was a "good cop?"

Just a thought. I know most folk around here don't think, but for those who do. . .


You make perfect sense until a "wrench" is thrown into the works and I think that wrench may have been fear (probably of the most egregious of the four)
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You make perfect sense until a "wrench" is thrown into the works and I think that wrench may have been fear (probably of the most egregious of the four)
If you're so afraid of a handcuffed man that you have to kneel on his neck for 8 1/2 minutes, you probably shouldn't be a cop.
 

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Poor policing leads to violent public protests has become like school shootings down there. One more new normal gem of the greatened America.
 

DaSleeper

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I have just received a letter from the RCMP that I own a firearm on trudeau's banned list!. a 12gauge coach gun.

The ownership is grandfathered, meaning that I can keep it: but I can't sell it or go hunting with it
My Métis card will come in handy this fall, should I decide to go bird hunting!


Screw you Trudeau!
 

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George Floyd died under Derek Chauvin's knee. After the aformentioned begging.

What confrontation led up to it? Did he resist, confront the police officers before being slammed to the ground? Or did he peacefully turn himself over to the Police officers then get slammed to the ground by the officer in question? Neither circumstance dismisses the officer of kneeling on his neck for 8+ minutes, it is important to know what actions led up to the bad decision made by the officers in question.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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What confrontation led up to it? Did he resist, confront the police officers before being slammed to the ground? Or did he peacefully turn himself over to the Police officers then get slammed to the ground by the officer in question? Neither circumstance dismisses the officer of kneeling on his neck for 8+ minutes, it is important to know what actions led up to the bad decision made by the officers in question.
Why? Is it OK to kneel on the neck of somebody who was belligerent before he was restrained?

Or is your thesis that a 46-year-old man with "underlying health problems" was such a Norse god of war that even lying on the ground, his hands cuffed behind his back, he was an ongoing danger to the officers and others?

Or is your thesis that if he had pissed the cops off before they restrained him, then once he was restrained they were justified in hurting him because they were pissed off?

Or is there some other possibility I've overlooked?

I'd love to hear your doubts and reasoning, because your limp-dick disclaimer notwithstanding, you are clearly searching for something to justify kneeling on the neck of a man lying facedown and cuffed behind his back until he dies.
 

Hoid

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You are not allowing for the fact that climate change is a hoax and that only white people face discrimination.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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You are not allowing for the fact that climate change is a hoax and that only white people face discrimination.
Hmm. . . good point. Maybe they were just taking a knee in solidarity with Colin Kaepernick, and failed to notice that Mr. Floyd was there until it was, tragically, too late.
 

JLM

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George Floyd died under Derek Chauvin's knee. After the aformentioned begging.


That bastard should never again see the light of day. An ordinary citizen would have to serve life, a should be enlightened cop should receive the death penalty by rights! The old "eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth" wasn't a bad philosophy!
 

Tecumsehsbones

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That bastard should never again see the light of day.
He won't. He's dead.

Oh. . . wait. You mean the upstanding Hero in Blue.

Why, JLM, I'm shocked and disappointed in you.

Y'know, last time I was in Germany, I tried to pass a counterfeit 20-euro note. The restaurant called the cops.

Fortunately, I was in Germany, so the cops patiently explained to the manager that the "evidence" he had that the note was counterfeit (some bleeding in the colors) was a bullshit internet meme, and showed him the four other ways there are to verify the authenticity of euro currency.

They never even suggested that I should lie down and get my neck knelt on, even though I was "non-compliant" (it took a bit for them to slow down and simplify enough for me to understand them) and non-white.