Vaughn Palmer: By the time the public learns what Fraser signed, it may be too late to do otherwise.
Too late to learn?
Vaughn Palmer: By the time the public learns what Fraser signed, it may be too late to do otherwise.
- The Items Needed are:
- – WiFi hotspot compatible with Bell/Rogers/Virgin SIM cards
- – baby wipes
- – toilet paper
- – Thermal Imaging Cabinet
- – first aid kits
- – rope
- – unlocked cell phones
- – marine 2-way radios
- – police scanner
- – megaphone
- – bottled water
- – HotHands hand warmers
- – winter work gloves
- – tarps
- – splitting axe
- – camping kettle
- – stainless steel campfire cooking set
- – cast iron cooking tripod
- – heavy duty folding campfire grill
- – 1000 watt twin head adjustable worklight
- – LED lights
- – 10,000 lumen string worklights
- – 3500 watt generator
- – AA and AAA batteries
- – flash lights
- – body cameras
- I'll take FIVE of all of the above also. I'll have a garage sale eventually.
Having learned that the deal said nothing about the pipeline and the protests, the Liberals tried to find out what it did say. But they were rebuffed by Fraser.
“The work that we did do was done in camera, it was confidential,” he replied. “This will be brought back to the Wet’suwet’en people. We can’t talk about the details of what we discussed until that happens.”
When will British Columbians learn what was initialled on their behalf?
Fraser described a ratification process stretching over a couple of weeks that includes bringing the Wet’suwet’en clans together and a ratification vote among all of the people.
“My hope is that they will endorse the arrangement,” he told the House. “My expectation is that following that, Minister Bennett and myself will return to the territory to sign the agreement. It will be made public at that point in time.”
We already no taxpayers have been fukked in the azz again.Too late to learn?
Couple of people making decisions for all the Canadian taxpayers on a trust us comment
From Mowich's article
Mohawks face online threats, hate as protest continuesThe Mohawks blocking rail traffic south of Montreal held firm Monday in the face of an injunction ordering them to clear the tracks and a spike in online threats.
The Mohawks blocking rail traffic south of Montreal held firm Monday in the face of an injunction ordering them to clear the tracks and a spike in online threats.
Their blockade has been in place for 23 days, halting a commuter rail line and hundreds of freight shipments into the city. It has also sparked a “disturbing” rise in hate speech and death threats directed at the protesters, according to experts.
“In Quebec, the far-right has really begun to mobilize against Indigenous people and Mohawks in particular,” said Xavier Camus, a CEGEP professor and blogger who reports on far-right groups. “Online, you’re seeing very specific calls to violence and racist, dehumanizing language. It’s radicalizing people within these groups.”
Members of a Facebook group called ‘Les Amis de la CAQ’ say the protesters are “savage … terrorists” who should be murdered. The group has about 2,800 members and uses Coalition Avenir Québec’s logo but has no affiliation with the party. It emerged shortly after the CAQ won a majority mandate in 2018.
Meanwhile, Sylvain Brouillette — one of the leaders of the populist group La Meute — called Mohawks “s–t disturbers” and said “it’s easy to see why our ancestors called them savages” in a statement posted on Facebook. La Meute is one of the most prominent right-wing groups in Quebec and frequently protest against Muslims.
For the past month, Indigenous groups across Canada have been protesting in solidarity with the Wet’suwet’en chiefs opposed to the construction of a natural gas pipeline in northern British Columbia. As those actions halted rail traffic and resulted in about 1,000 layoffs in the sector, people turned to social media, often threatening violence against Indigenous people.
CP rail served protesters in Kahnawake with a court order to clear the tracks last week but Mohawk police will not enforce it.
Meanwhile, Premier François Legault said provincial police hesitate to move in on the protest camp because of the presence of AK47 assault rifles on Mohawk land.
Sources inside the camp and Indigenous Services Minister Marc Miller say there are no guns on site and that the protest is a nonviolent one.
“We have elders, parents and children here, no one wants violence,” said one Mohawk protester, who did not want his name published.
Kenneth Deer — of the Mohawk Longhouse — says Legault’s words were irresponsible and unnecessarily escalate tensions on the ground.
Though the Wet’suwet’en and federal government reached a tentative agreement Sunday that could end the protests, it still needs to be ratified. Until that happens, the blockade in Kahnawake will stand.
Monday night, the community was scheduled to gather in the Longhouse on Route 207, to discuss what comes next. Hundreds are expected to attend.
Shaheen Shariff is a McGill University professor who has studied hate speech for the past 20 years. She says what’s happening online is disturbing and dangerous but not surprising.
“It’s become normalized,” said Shariff. “With the rise of populism and leaders like (U.S. President) Donald Trump using dehumanizing language against minorities, this is par for the course. … When people go online and use terms like savages to describe Mohawks, they’re making it easier to justify violence against them.”
Camus says the rhetoric isn’t limited to the dark corners of social media. He pointed to a recent Journal de Montréal column by Denise Bombardier, which depicts Kahnawake as a lawless place overrun by masked Mohawks who use the weapons of “terrorists.”
“She was careful not to directly call Mohawks terrorists, but she’s using that language and it’s dangerous,” said Camus.
Greg Horn is a journalist who runs the Kahnawake-based newspaper Iorì:wase. He takes issue with people who suggest Mohawks should just ignore hateful comments online.
“It’s important to know what some people think of us, how they speak of us and in such a way that they’re willing to attach their name to it,” said Horn. “People want us dead, they don’t want us to exist. It’s unsettling but it’s not surprising.
“What we tell our youth is that you should be proud to be Mohawk. And so this hate actually just brings us closer as a community.”
Horn says the fact that CBC News recently stopped allowing people to comment on articles about Indigenous issues speaks volumes about the spread of hate on social media.
As for the real-world consequences of online hate? Camus says it takes normal people, “aunts and uncles,” and exposes them to extremist ideas.
“Out west, you had people from extremist groups forming vigilante groups to go after Indigenous protesters,” said Camus. “If things escalate here, it’s not impossible that it could happen in Quebec. But what’s more likely is you just have these echo chambers where people get more and more hateful.”
montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/mohawks-face-online-threats-hate-as-protest-continues
I really doubt the Mohawks on the blockade would consider having AK-47s in the camp even if it is their own police who refuse to honor the injunction. Premier Legault's comment - ill-advised as I believe it was, did not mention the camp but rather referred to the 'land.' I don't know about the above mentioned weapons but as has been seen, Mohawks are not without other types.
I'm sorry but it was only a matter of time before some group started hitting back by adopting this scurrilous racist language in social media posts. If the Mohawks thought they were exempt from right-wing abuse, they have another think coming. Their continuing refusal to abandon the blockades only adds fuel to the fires of the racism which, most unfortunately will not be limited to those in the Mohawk camp.
LINK to a different Mohawk peaceful protest: http://ammsa.com/publications/windspeaker/report-finds-mohawk-warrior-responsible-policemans-death....Meanwhile, Premier François Legault said provincial police hesitate to move in on the protest camp because of the presence of AK47 assault rifles on Mohawk land.
I really doubt the Mohawks on the blockade would consider having AK-47s in the camp even if it is their own police who refuse to honor the injunction. Premier Legault's comment - ill-advised as I believe it was, did not mention the camp but rather referred to the 'land.' I don't know about the above mentioned weapons but as has been seen, Mohawks are not without other types.
The people feeling the squeeze due to the blockades in Ontario & Quebec & BC aren't just in Ontario & Quebec & BC. People and their livelihoods are being choked across the nation through the harbors and with every full parked grain car and tanker of fuel or heating oil and every sea can sitting, and the investment capital running (not walking) away from this mess of a nation & we'll feel this for decades....and it'll affect EVERY Canadian.I'm sorry but it was only a matter of time before some group started hitting back by adopting this scurrilous racist language in social media posts. If the Mohawks thought they were exempt from right-wing abuse, they have another think coming. Their continuing refusal to abandon the blockades only adds fuel to the fires of the racism which, most unfortunately will not be limited to those in the Mohawk camp.
In the matter of optics, who's hiding their identity behind black glasses & bandanas (plural) and so on? Who's not hiding their identity, and why? Oh wait, what's that hanging off the back of the guy hiding behind black glasses & bandanas (plural) ?? Is that an AK47 by any chance?
Out West there are extremist groups forming vigilante groups to go after Indigenous protesters?? Really?? I totally missed that, unless it's bullshit? Or unless Camus is talking about the RCMP enforcing and injunction from the courts? http://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-rcmp-enforce-court-injunction-against-opponents-of-pipeline/ Or unless Camus is talking about the 20 or so Albertan people who in broad daylight and in a peaceful manner in front of Law Enforcement and the media (without hiding behind masks and balaclavas) cleaned the trash off the tracks in Edmonton? http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/02/19/new-wetsuweten-rail-blockade-pops-up-in-the-heart-of-canadas-oil-country.html?? Or unless Camus is just blowing this out of his arse??“Out west, you had people from extremist groups forming vigilante groups to go after Indigenous protesters,” said Camus. “If things escalate here, it’s not impossible that it could happen in Quebec. But what’s more likely is you just have these echo chambers where people get more and more hateful.”
fun fact: one of the six guys (Perhaps the one in the picture above? We'll never know) at that blockade with AK47's shot a Quebec provincial police officer with an AK47 using armor piercing ammo.
fun fact: the guy on the left was kicked out of the military shortly after this picture was taken for cocaine.
Mohawks face online threats, hate as protest continues
fun fact: one of the six guys (Perhaps the one in the picture above? We'll never know) at that blockade with AK47's shot a Quebec provincial police officer with an AK47 using armor piercing ammo.
OTTAWA — Business leaders are expressing frustration because of uncertainty with a deal the federal government has struck with hereditary Wet’suwet’en chiefs to solve a pipeline dispute that led to crippling rail blockades.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he knows people are impatient for a resolution, but time is needed to respect the traditions of the Wet’suwet’en. Details of the deal are confidential until the Wet’suwet’en people are consulted through their traditional feast process, which could take up to two weeks.
Perrin Beatty, CEO of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, wondered whether the deal had solved the issues.
“Was anything actually resolved as a result of the negotiations. We don’t know?” he said. “It just protracts the uncertainty that businesses are facing.”
What we know about the deal governments agreed to with Wet'suwet'en hereditary chiefs
John Ivison: A deal made in haste, but the blockades are still in place
Work to resume on Coastal GasLink after Wet’suwet’en chiefs, ministers reach draft arrangement in pipeline dispute
While freight trains are slowly starting to move again, business leaders say they are reluctant to move full speed ahead because of that uncertainty.
“The level of business uncertainty goes up with businesses not being able to know what to expect over the future,” said Beatty.
Dennis Darby, president and CEO of Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters, said a recent survey of his members found that 92 per cent believed the blockades had damaged Canada’s international reputation.
“Canada has to be predictable and right now up until the last little while we have not looked that predictable,” he said. “When you are an export focused country like Canada, where 80 per cent of it goes to the U.S., you have to have predictable infrastructure.”
Darby said half of his members said in an internal survey they had been hit with extra costs, because of the blockades, and 42 per cent slowed production because they couldn’t get products to market.
He said for manufacturers these blockades came just as supply routes from China were struggling due to the coronavirus.
After lengthy meetings this past weekend, the federal and British Columbia governments announced they had come to an agreement with Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs. The chiefs oppose the Coastal GasLink pipeline in Northern British Columbia and protests in support of them lead to railway blockades that crippled freight traffic across the country. The pipeline is supported by elected Wet’suwet’en band councils.
In a statement released Monday, the three sides announced the agreement and said it covered both the Coastal GasLink pipeline and the Wet’suwet’en community’s long-standing and unresolved land claim. Blockades that went up in support of the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs have mostly come down, but at least one remains in place near Montreal.
An elected Wet’suwet’en councillor says she has “high hopes” that internal conflict over governance issues and the pipeline can be resolved respectfully but she’s also concerned some members will not have a chance to participate in the decision on a proposed deal. …………….More
'Was anything actually resolved?' Frustrated business leaders eager for details on Wet'suwet'en deal
A super secret deal that has ramifications across a whole nation to satisfy a couple hundred persons with no input from the Millions affected by it, yep Canada will buy that, they'll have too, it'll save face for the Lib. party.
I assume you have a point here. I don't favor the protests, and I wouldn't mind seeing them broken up.They're trying to see humour in a ridiculous situation as opposed to lighting up tires and tossing them on the rail road ties. They're almost done for the night too 'cuz they're going to get up in the morning and go to their place of employment to pull in some more Canadian Pesos to buy their own hard cheese.
"Duesy." Just sayin'.Actually, this will muddy the faces of all libtard candidates with a special call-out to tater tot.
The Lib leadership convention ought to be a doosey