"The west wants out": Separatist sentiments growing in Alberta

[Cliffy]

What would it cost to clean up Alberta’s oilpatch? $260 billion, a top official warns

Cleaning up the Alberta oilpatch could cost an estimated $260 billion, internal regulatory documents warn.
The staggering financial liabilities for the energy industry’s mining waste and graveyard of spent facilities were spelled out by a high-ranking official of the Alberta Energy Regulator (AER) in a presentation to a private audience in Calgary in February.
The estimated liabilities are far higher than any liability amount made public by government and industry officials.
The official, Rob Wadsworth, Vice President of Closure and Liability for the AER, says a “flawed system” of industrial oversight is to blame.
He called on all stakeholders to accept tougher regulations and move away from a system that now allows the largest companies to take centuries to clean up their toxic well site graveyards.


https://www.thestar.com/news/invest...ilpatch-260-billion-a-top-official-warns.html


Leave and you don't get any help cleaning up this ecological disaster.Most of the big oil companies are getting out while the getting is good. They sure as hell ain't gonna clean it up.

 

[Serryah]

The Conservative platform was just a tool to show Ottawa the unity out here. Seriously. If there was a "I Poop in you Hat" party (give it the color of Brown on the electoral map) that had a handful of the statements in their platform that the West wanted to make as a statement....the map might be solid brown out West with spots of blue scattered across a few other parts of Canada.

Which is exactly my point.


Do what the Bloc did. Provincially they couldn't do jack shyte about Quebec Separation or Recognition in Federal politics (supposedly; I despise the Bloc and think it should not even be a party, and a lot of other things, but that's another thread), so they formed the Bloc, had it become an actual Federal party, and now they have seats in Ottawa that has forced the Feds to take them seriously and appease them or face backlash.


So why doesn't the West do that? Because, let's be honest here. Right now, the Conservative Party of Canada is really a Western Canada party, with smidges of old school Conservatives speckled here and there elsewhere, but who don't get elected because of the views/stances of the "new" Cons in control out West. Let Old School Cons have the Con party back.

 

[Curious Cdn]

We , already tried that . Remember , the Reform Party , the West wants in . Sadly we had to merge with the centrist conservatives from back east and allowed the message to get swallowed .

The Reform Party kept the West "out" for a whole generation.

Stupid gits.

Heads buried up your asses ...

 

[pgs]

Which is exactly my point.


Do what the Bloc did. Provincially they couldn't do jack shyte about Quebec Separation or Recognition in Federal politics (supposedly; I despise the Bloc and think it should not even be a party, and a lot of other things, but that's another thread), so they formed the Bloc, had it become an actual Federal party, and now they have seats in Ottawa that has forced the Feds to take them seriously and appease them or face backlash.


So why doesn't the West do that? Because, let's be honest here. Right now, the Conservative Party of Canada is really a Western Canada party, with smidges of old school Conservatives speckled here and there elsewhere, but who don't get elected because of the views/stances of the "new" Cons in control out West. Let Old School Cons have the Con party back.

The old school cons from back east do have their party back . That is how and why the milkman was elected leader , as that side of the party control him . The platform the conservatives put out was a centrist policy designed to appeal to disenchanted liberals .

 

[pgs]

The Reform Party kept the West "out" for a whole generation.

Stupid gits.

Heads buried up your asses ...

Yes but they were the catalyst for the comeback of the Joe Who conservatives . Party of also rams .

 

[petros]

I never voted liberal in my life.
And BC doesn't want to separate.Why would we join Alberta and be bullied into take your phuking pipelines?

Sorry buddy, BC is part of the rapidly growing WEXIT movement and the majority in BC want pipelines.

You really need to get out more instead of watching youtube all night.

 

[petros]

The old school cons from back east do have their party back . That is how and why the milkman was elected leader , as that side of the party control him . The platform the conservatives put out was a centrist policy designed to appeal to disenchanted liberals .

There will be a non-confidence vote within 8 months and we'll be voting again.

 

[Twin_Moose]

The Reform Party kept the West "out" for a whole generation.
Stupid gits.
Heads buried up your asses ...

The Reform party helped lead the Prairie voters away from the dead horse NDP party and focused it against the ruling Elite party, then had to water it down by merging with the PC party so Ont. would take it seriously. Ont. rebelled against Harper because he treated the East the same as the West, shiney pony stole 2015 by promising Ont. all their goodies back and pitted East against West by using the age old Lib. playbook.

 

[Twin_Moose]

He was trying to sell a Trumpite message. Canadians are smarter than Americans.

No he wasn't, you're just trolling like usual, he shouldn't have taken his foot off 'lil potato's neck because the Eastern MSM was calling him a meany.

 

[Hoid]

he should have given people something to vote for

 

[Twin_Moose]

He did, hope for the country

 

[Serryah]

He did, hope for the country

Pretty sure that "hope" was something lots of people did not want, as they didn't see it hope but against their own values.


And if they didn't agree with the Lib, they voted Green, Bloc or NDP, or maybe not at all.


People certainly didn't vote Conservative.

 

[Cannuck]

The Reform party helped lead the Prairie voters away from the dead horse NDP party and focused it against the ruling Elite party, then had to water it down by merging with the PC party so Ont. would take it seriously. Ont. rebelled against Harper because he treated the East the same as the West, shiney pony stole 2015 by promising Ont. all their goodies back and pitted East against West by using the age old Lib. playbook.

Nobody is interested in social conservative bullshyte and most Albertans voted Conservative just because they always have

 

[Cannuck]

"Rapidly growing Wexit movement"


Hehehehehehe....

 

[Cliffy]

 

[taxslave]

Pretty sure that "hope" was something lots of people did not want, as they didn't see it hope but against their own values.
And if they didn't agree with the Lib, they voted Green, Bloc or NDP, or maybe not at all.
People certainly didn't vote Conservative.

THe majority of voters did vote Conservative.Which is the only middle of the road party. The rest rest range from far left to lala landers.

 

[Cliffy]

THe majority of voters did vote Conservative.Which is the only middle of the road party. The rest rest range from far left to lala landers.

 

[petros]

The only link the West has with the East is the CPR mainline. If you can think of something else, I'd love to hear it.

 

[petros]

Your riding is Conservative. When is your funeral?

 

[Cannuck]

THe majority of voters did vote Conservative.Which is the only middle of the road party. The rest rest range from far left to lala landers.

The conservatives aren't a middle of the road party. Look at all the wingnuts here that support them