Not just Canada, The USA and The UK - Australia doing the same shit

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On the long sufferin taxpayers dime of course. Otherwise it just wouldn't be fun.


Ofcourse it's on the taxpayer, that's what makes it so relaxing.... That and the taxpayer buying the Bollywood costumes that can only be worn once


Where would the money come from? What part of the budget would you take from to fix the problems?

Well, we can start with all the cash spent on Trudeau's family vacations, errr, I mean, 'business trips', to Paris, London, Tokyo, India, etc, etc.


Add onto that, the money for his taxpayer-sponsored nannies (2), the millions he donated on behalf of Canadians to his old buddy the Aga Khan and maybe cut-out the many, many save-the-planet junkets that Trudeau takes these stupid-large groups of alarmists to and we'd have a goodly amount of cash to get started on helping Canadian seniors and Vets
 

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I already told you. You just chose not to listen.


Actually you partly did.

You said take money from the budget. Okay, but where from? What parts? How do we take money from Peter and not put Paul out as well?

Saying "take money from the budget" isn't enough of an answer.


I was asking for specifics and details.
 

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Ofcourse it's on the taxpayer, that's what makes it so relaxing.... That and the taxpayer buying the Bollywood costumes that can only be worn once




Well, we can start with all the cash spent on Trudeau's family vacations, errr, I mean, 'business trips', to Paris, London, Tokyo, India, etc, etc.


Add onto that, the money for his taxpayer-sponsored nannies (2), the millions he donated on behalf of Canadians to his old buddy the Aga Khan and maybe cut-out the many, many save-the-planet junkets that Trudeau takes these stupid-large groups of alarmists to and we'd have a goodly amount of cash to get started on helping Canadian seniors and Vets


Okay, I agree, Trudeau really was piss poor with our money, and a lot of that could have gone elsewhere. So do we get him to pay it all back so that money can go where it belongs?

Yet what does that set up for future PM's who also do "Business trips" to such places?


The nanny thing I agree that he should have been paying for his own nannies (or nanny/caregiver). That said, considering the level of clearance she needs to be with the children, her current pay rate of 21 and change per hour seems reasonable to me. A year salary of 45,000$ isn't a huge lot really, IMO. But yeah, he should be paying for his own nanny.

So you would cut out anything that goes towards inventing environmentally friendly tech, that would clean water, clean soil, use renewable resources over the older, takes a thousand years or more to compose stuff and really who gives a shit about the planet, and instead put it towards these other groups.

Why?

Why bother? I mean, if we don't give a shit about the only planet we live on, why should we give a shit about the people who share it with us? What makes them more special than our own home? Vets? Old people? The Homeless? If our planet has shit water and shit air, shit food because of shit soil, they'll be low end of the totem pole, so why care about them at all?

I don't think that's going to work.

So where else would you cut from the budget?
 

taxslave

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Actually you partly did.
You said take money from the budget. Okay, but where from? What parts? How do we take money from Peter and not put Paul out as well?
Saying "take money from the budget" isn't enough of an answer.
I was asking for specifics and details.
Start with the low hanging fruit. Significant cut to pay and peks for politicians and senior bureaucrats. No more severence pay when they get voted out. Minimum of 10 years to be eligible for pension. A complete overhaul of both Indian affairs and DND. Both are unproductive money pits.
 

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Start with the low hanging fruit. Significant cut to pay and peks for politicians and senior bureaucrats. No more severence pay when they get voted out. Minimum of 10 years to be eligible for pension. A complete overhaul of both Indian affairs and DND. Both are unproductive money pits.



Get elected for 2 terms and you have a pension. That's insane! Where on earth does anyone get that fortunate to have a pension after so little time?
 

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Nope, it's all Trudeaubama's fault.
See, Canada was a Paradise of hard-working lumberjacks, fishermen, farmers, and trappers and their loving wives who waited for them with hot, hearty, homemade suppers, whiling away their time darning socks and cleaning the cabin, all guarded by stalwart Mounties who would give a fella who had a couple too many a lift home to aforesaid loving wife.
Right up until the EEE-vil Justin Trudeaubama cheated his way into 24 Sussex Drive, raised taxes to 100%, and gave all the money to them EEE-vil brown people so they could smoke dope and rape li'l white girls.
Seriously, that's what you're dealing with, Serryah. Your average Old Stock Canadian has self-hypnotized into believing that's true. It's his reality.
And it's worse down hereabouts.
It's all true.

We're victims.

The universe owes me quite a lot.
 

taxslave

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There is a snowflake that is taking the BC Ministry of Forests to human rights Kangaroo court because they didn't supply him with vegan meals on the fireline. This is the level of stupid the left has fallen to.
 

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To those who thought I was exaggerating (or just full of it) I present this as proof.
And as I said, it's worse down here. The MAGAhats have been hypnotized (which musta been tough, there ain't much there to hypnotize) into believing to their very cores that the TV show Happy Days was reality until Obama took office. No unemployment. No crime. No violence. No brown people. No drugs. No alcoholism. No poverty.
This is why they believe that a giant wall will keep out visa overstays and drugs that come in by air and sea.
Which is OK. They're entitled to their delusions. Except that in America, when our delusions run hard into reality, we get to killing.
This is why I've given up on providing links. It just doesn't matter.
The fact that my stats on visa overstays come from Immigration and Customs Enforcement. . . doesn't matter.
The fact that my stats on drugs entering the country come from the Drug Enforcement Administration. . . doesn't matter.
I thought I had Moosie convinced of the folly of building a wall across 700 miles of trackless, uninhabited, unsurvivable desert, and he agreed. Briefly. But as you've now seen, he snapped back into the delusion that The Wall would fix everything. Facts. . . didn't. . . matter.
So naturally the solution is, if you can't fix all of the problems don't try to fix any of them.
And obviously there's enough of a problem at your southern border that certain people/groups have set up surreptitious hydration camps or whatever in the desert.

But yeah, if Democaps are just going to ignore the rest of the illegal entries and provide sanctuary cities, free health care and education for them anyway, a border wall is useless but only because that's what the Democraps want.

And how does all that tie in with preventing climate change? I don't know what the numbers are for the US offhand but Canada is now importing upwards of 400,000 people every year, not including illegals and fake refugees. That may not seem like a big number but it's over 1% of our total population. How would any Western country meet its emission reduction targets when their populations are being artificially inflated at such a substantial rate?

The major problem is leftists tend to look at issues one at a time without understanding or even noticing that many of those issues tend to overlap. And when they do make connections, they are so far out to f*cking lunch it's like I've gone back in time and got stuck listening to Glenn Beck. You know, when you cradle your head in your hand and slowly shake it wondering, da fuq?
 

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And a lot of the problems above didn't exist yet because of A) no inflation compared to today, B) those who would suffer such things weren't at that point yet and C) everyone had jobs because jobs were everywhere and it didn't matter education level for most, nor did it matter if you were trained because you got training on the job. It was the generation after the war who started to shove things downhill, the children of those people of the 50's and 60's.
That still doesn't answer how do you solve all those problems.


No inflation back then huh?

The first thing a person has to do is get their facts straight. Nothing you say, think, or do will ever make sense until you do, and will just screw up any other people smart enough to have their facts straight just because of proximity.

BTW:
While you was philosophizin', YOU HAVE BEEN ROBBED.

What I find HIGH larious is all the people cheering on the people that are robbing them because that's the politically correct thing to do.
 

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So what's the difference between a christian pedophile and a muslim pedophile?
Guess how the next few days are going to go for you. They are both criminal acts, only with the Jews is there money changing hands and many of the stolen children end up in the grave.

Should I start a thread in your honor you little fukking creep?
 

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No inflation back then huh?

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Wars and the money spent on the Cold War was $5T rather than 'inflation' or just about anything else.

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/economic
Economic Costs

Through Fiscal Year 2019, the United States federal government has spent or obligated $5.9 trillion dollars on the wars in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iraq. This figure includes: direct Congressional war appropriations; war-related increases to the Pentagon base budget; veterans care and disability; increases in the homeland security budget; interest payments on direct war borrowing; foreign assistance spending; and estimated future obligations for veterans’ care.
This total omits many other expenses, such as the macroeconomic costs to the US economy; the opportunity costs of not investing war dollars in alternative sectors; future interest on war borrowing; and local government and private war costs.
The current wars have been paid for almost entirely by borrowing. This borrowing has raised the US budget deficit, increased the national debt, and had other macroeconomic effects, such as raising consumer interest rates. Unless the US immediately repays the money borrowed for war, there will also be future interest payments. We estimate that interest payments could total over $8 trillion by the 2050s.
Spending on the wars has involved opportunity costs for the US economy. Although military spending does produce jobs, spending in other areas such as health care could produce more jobs. Additionally, while investment in military infrastructure grew, investment in other, nonmilitary, public infrastructure such as roads and schools did not grow at the same rate.
Finally, federal war costs exclude billions of dollars of state, municipal, and private war costs across the country – dollars spent on services for returned veterans and their families, in addition to local homeland security efforts.


https://online.norwich.edu/academic...infographics/the-cost-of-us-wars-then-and-now



https://ourworldindata.org/military-spending
The military expenditure of a country is largely determined by the whether it is at war or not. Outside of wartime, countries continue to spend substantial sums on maintaining their military capability. Below are two time series plots of military expenditure in real terms; the first is in thousands of 1900 UK pounds for the period 1830-1913, the second is in thousands of 2000 US dollars for the period 1914-2007.


Military expenditure by country (in thousands of 1900 UK pounds)


Military expenditure by country


Adjusted for inflation and expressed in US dollars in prices of 2000.

The extent to which war influences military spending is demonstrated in the visualisation below. The UK's military spending as a percentage of GDP in peacetime fluctuates around 2.5%, in times of war however, military spending rises dramatically. At the height of the Second World War, the UK was spending around 53% of its GDP on its military. Such a dramatic rise is consistent with the existential danger faced by the UK during the Second World War.

Military Expenditure Today and in the Future

The following visualisations provide a snapshot of military expenditure in the world today and into the future. World military expenditure in 2014 was dominated by the United States, with the top 5 completed by China, Saudi Arabia, Russia and the United Kingdom. Projections of Military expenditure in 2045 suggest that while the US will continue to be the largest spender, nevertheless China is expected to close the gap considerably.
Top ten military expenditures in US$ Bn., 2014 – International Institute for Strategic Studies1


The following map displays military expenditure as a percentage of GDP. Military spending is particularly high in the Middle East, a region that has experienced dozens of conflicts since the Second World War. Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen all have very high levels of military expenditure relative to GDP and are all either currently engaged in conflict or have been in recent years. Two other countries that rank highly are Eritrea and North Korea, both of which are in perpetual conflicts with their neighbours Ethiopia and South Korea, respectively. It is estimated that North Korea spends roughly one-third of their national income on defence.2

Military expenditure as share of GDP




Using that scale what would the numbers be for Standard Oil to bank $1T just for social programs in the Netherlands om judt the last 100 years? Those 2 spikes for the WW's would have been the same for every country so a lot of debt was poled onto all nations through those 2 fake wars.
 

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No inflation back then huh?

The first thing a person has to do is get their facts straight. Nothing you say, think, or do will ever make sense until you do, and will just screw up any other people smart enough to have their facts straight just because of proximity.

BTW:
While you was philosophizin', YOU HAVE BEEN ROBBED.

What I find HIGH larious is all the people cheering on the people that are robbing them because that's the politically correct thing to do.


Perhaps then inflation isn't the word I should have used.

Though people had to work harder, people could also get more for their money years ago. Now, to get those same goods, you need to pay a LOT more. Even just over the last few years the price of things has gone up, an wages have not gone up with it.


That was what I meant when I made that post. I apologize if using 'inflation' was the wrong term.
 

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That graph shows how much we have been ROBBED by those that control the currency.
 

taxslave

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Guess how the next few days are going to go for you. They are both criminal acts, only with the Jews is there money changing hands and many of the stolen children end up in the grave.
Should I start a thread in your honor you little fukking creep?
Better quit humping those young sheep lambchop.
 

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Perhaps then inflation isn't the word I should have used.
Though people had to work harder, people could also get more for their money years ago. Now, to get those same goods, you need to pay a LOT more. Even just over the last few years the price of things has gone up, an wages have not gone up with it.
That was what I meant when I made that post. I apologize if using 'inflation' was the wrong term.
Depends on the product. Vehicles still cost around a year's pay. Lead acid batteries are close to the same price today as they were 25 years ago, which effectivly makes them cheaper. I don't know about you but my wages have gone up close to 30% over the last 6 years. Housing has had the biggest increase in cost, mostly without any justification.
 

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Depends on the product. Vehicles still cost around a year's pay. Lead acid batteries are close to the same price today as they were 25 years ago, which effectivly makes them cheaper. I don't know about you but my wages have gone up close to 30% over the last 6 years. Housing has had the biggest increase in cost, mostly without any justification.
Lower interest rates help offset the rise in house prices .
 

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Lower interest rates help offset the rise in house prices .
Cart-before-horse ... Lower interest rates make it less expensive to go into debt and buy a house, which increases the demand for housing and that pushes up housing prices.
 

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High real estate prices are awesome when you own a house.