Not just Canada, The USA and The UK - Australia doing the same shit

Serryah

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Okay. So for the seniors, what do you propose since Governments have taken out of the pension plans of many, or companies have reduced the pensions of many, forcing them to be under that line. And then there's others who have decent pensions who still can't afford to live, because living costs are so high. How do you propose fixing that?

For the farmers - a lot of that is due to environment causes, or big companies buying out the little guy to shove their mega-corporate fast growing foods with questionable quality into the ground, or it's because it's not sustainable anymore because the the land has been so overused for so long, it just won't grow things anymore. So what do you want to do to help the farmers? Buy outs? Grants? Aren't those liberal/socialist things?

Homlessness - a BIG issue, and a complicated, complex one. There are some that are homeless not of their own doing, yes. But what about those who choose to be homeless? What about those who could get jobs, but won't (those lazy bastards, am I right?) Drug addicts? And - this ties into the next one - vets?

Speaking of vets - I totally agree, more needs to be done, a LOT more.

What do you think should be done?

Are you willing to pay more in taxes to see them helped, because the money has to come from somewhere and since the Military is a Country based job, and a Government job, in essence they work for us, so we pay them. Considering how little they're paid now, they need a raise, which means... we pay more in taxes.

But remember, if we don't pay more in taxes, if we rob from some other program, that feeds back onto the previous three groups of people because THEY no longer have the social backing to help them.

So... what is YOUR solutions for this problem?


As to the refugees; that's a humanitarian thing, a human decency thing. Unless you want to isolate the country totally, they're just something we have to deal with.

And they want to work, unlike some of our OWN people...
 

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Homlessness - a BIG issue

Many homeless people - or tramps as we called them in the non-PC days - in the UK actually sell the Big Issue.
 

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Okay. So for the seniors, what do you propose since Governments have taken out of the pension plans of many, or companies have reduced the pensions of many, forcing them to be under that line. And then there's others who have decent pensions who still can't afford to live, because living costs are so high. How do you propose fixing that?
For the farmers - a lot of that is due to environment causes, or big companies buying out the little guy to shove their mega-corporate fast growing foods with questionable quality into the ground, or it's because it's not sustainable anymore because the the land has been so overused for so long, it just won't grow things anymore. So what do you want to do to help the farmers? Buy outs? Grants? Aren't those liberal/socialist things?
Homlessness - a BIG issue, and a complicated, complex one. There are some that are homeless not of their own doing, yes. But what about those who choose to be homeless? What about those who could get jobs, but won't (those lazy bastards, am I right?) Drug addicts? And - this ties into the next one - vets?
Speaking of vets - I totally agree, more needs to be done, a LOT more.
What do you think should be done?
Are you willing to pay more in taxes to see them helped, because the money has to come from somewhere and since the Military is a Country based job, and a Government job, in essence they work for us, so we pay them. Considering how little they're paid now, they need a raise, which means... we pay more in taxes.
But remember, if we don't pay more in taxes, if we rob from some other program, that feeds back onto the previous three groups of people because THEY no longer have the social backing to help them.
So... what is YOUR solutions for this problem?
As to the refugees; that's a humanitarian thing, a human decency thing. Unless you want to isolate the country totally, they're just something we have to deal with.
And they want to work, unlike some of our OWN people...
Other then the refugee problem there is more than enough money in the budget to eliminate all of these problems. Unfortunately our current government would rather fritter our money away on fake climate change and send lots to other countries. A change of government is what is required. One that puts CANADIANS before third world countries.
 

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Other then the refugee problem there is more than enough money in the budget to eliminate all of these problems. Unfortunately our current government would rather fritter our money away on fake climate change and send lots to other countries. A change of government is what is required. One that puts CANADIANS before third world countries.


Okay, more than enough money...


Where would the money come from? What part of the budget would you take from to fix the problems?

I agree sending cash to other countries is sometimes questionable, however, some of that cash goes to countries that are where refugees are coming from, meant to help those countries. So the fix isn't so easy there, since refugees are still coming.


Also, "fake climate change" is a matter of opinion. You believe it's fake, I am seeing it enough in my area of Canada to know it's real. I also have no issue, even if climate change "isn't real", to see the Government do more to actually take care of our little bit of the world. Yeah, it's offset by other countries like China and it effin' sucks, but doing what we can still helps. At least we're not adding to the problems.

Unfortunately, NO current political party wants to put Canadian's first. It's either other countries or big companies. And if they're saying they're putting Canadian's first, they're lying.


So...

You still need to answer what would YOU do for each of those problems?
 

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Nope, it's all Trudeaubama's fault.

See, Canada was a Paradise of hard-working lumberjacks, fishermen, farmers, and trappers and their loving wives who waited for them with hot, hearty, homemade suppers, whiling away their time darning socks and cleaning the cabin, all guarded by stalwart Mounties who would give a fella who had a couple too many a lift home to aforesaid loving wife.

Right up until the EEE-vil Justin Trudeaubama cheated his way into 24 Sussex Drive, raised taxes to 100%, and gave all the money to them EEE-vil brown people so they could smoke dope and rape li'l white girls.

Seriously, that's what you're dealing with, Serryah. Your average Old Stock Canadian has self-hypnotized into believing that's true. It's his reality.

And it's worse down hereabouts.
 

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Okay, more than enough money...


Where would the money come from? What part of the budget would you take from to fix the problems?

I agree sending cash to other countries is sometimes questionable, however, some of that cash goes to countries that are where refugees are coming from, meant to help those countries. So the fix isn't so easy there, since refugees are still coming.


Also, "fake climate change" is a matter of opinion. You believe it's fake, I am seeing it enough in my area of Canada to know it's real. I also have no issue, even if climate change "isn't real", to see the Government do more to actually take care of our little bit of the world. Yeah, it's offset by other countries like China and it effin' sucks, but doing what we can still helps. At least we're not adding to the problems.

Unfortunately, NO current political party wants to put Canadian's first. It's either other countries or big companies. And if they're saying they're putting Canadian's first, they're lying.


So...

You still need to answer what would YOU do for each of those problems?
One answer , computerization. Since computers and modern business tools have allowed the private sector to streamline operations and do more with less , governments at all levels have also embraced these technologies, yet never do they do more with less . Well the private sector are shrinking administrative workforce , governments are continually increasing administrative workforce .In most government offices the lions share of their budget is eaten up by administrative costs leaving little to reach the intended target . And of course the only solution is more money and more help .
 

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Nope, it's all Trudeaubama's fault.

See, Canada was a Paradise of hard-working lumberjacks, fishermen, farmers, and trappers and their loving wives who waited for them with hot, hearty, homemade suppers, whiling away their time darning socks and cleaning the cabin, all guarded by stalwart Mounties who would give a fella who had a couple too many a lift home to aforesaid loving wife.

Right up until the EEE-vil Justin Trudeaubama cheated his way into 24 Sussex Drive, raised taxes to 100%, and gave all the money to them EEE-vil brown people so they could smoke dope and rape li'l white girls.

Seriously, that's what you're dealing with, Serryah. Your average Old Stock Canadian has self-hypnotized into believing that's true. It's his reality.

And it's worse down hereabouts.
That’s it to a tee . And our neighbour to the south was all baseball ice cream and apple pie until that orange menace stole the Whitehouse from the princess in waiting . Why those Russians .
 

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Nope, it's all Trudeaubama's fault.
See, Canada was a Paradise of hard-working lumberjacks, fishermen, farmers, and trappers and their loving wives who waited for them with hot, hearty, homemade suppers, whiling away their time darning socks and cleaning the cabin, all guarded by stalwart Mounties who would give a fella who had a couple too many a lift home to aforesaid loving wife.
Right up until the EEE-vil Justin Trudeaubama cheated his way into 24 Sussex Drive, raised taxes to 100%, and gave all the money to them EEE-vil brown people so they could smoke dope and rape li'l white girls.
Seriously, that's what you're dealing with, Serryah. Your average Old Stock Canadian has self-hypnotized into believing that's true. It's his reality.
And it's worse down hereabouts.
Actually that is not far off how it was growing up here in the 50s and 60s. You could afford to own a house, raise and educate your kids, have a car, truck, boat all one one blue collar income.
 

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Actually that is not far off how it was growing up here in the 50s and 60s. You could afford to own a house, raise and educate your kids, have a car, truck, boat all one one blue collar income.
Even one of those white collar mid level employee that has all but disappeared.
 

Serryah

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Nope, it's all Trudeaubama's fault.

See, Canada was a Paradise of hard-working lumberjacks, fishermen, farmers, and trappers and their loving wives who waited for them with hot, hearty, homemade suppers, whiling away their time darning socks and cleaning the cabin, all guarded by stalwart Mounties who would give a fella who had a couple too many a lift home to aforesaid loving wife.

Right up until the EEE-vil Justin Trudeaubama cheated his way into 24 Sussex Drive, raised taxes to 100%, and gave all the money to them EEE-vil brown people so they could smoke dope and rape li'l white girls.

Seriously, that's what you're dealing with, Serryah. Your average Old Stock Canadian has self-hypnotized into believing that's true. It's his reality.

And it's worse down hereabouts.


Too effing true...
 

Serryah

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Actually that is not far off how it was growing up here in the 50s and 60s. You could afford to own a house, raise and educate your kids, have a car, truck, boat all one one blue collar income.


And a lot of the problems above didn't exist yet because of A) no inflation compared to today, B) those who would suffer such things weren't at that point yet and C) everyone had jobs because jobs were everywhere and it didn't matter education level for most, nor did it matter if you were trained because you got training on the job. It was the generation after the war who started to shove things downhill, the children of those people of the 50's and 60's.


That still doesn't answer how do you solve all those problems.
 

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Actually that is not far off how it was growing up here in the 50s and 60s. You could afford to own a house, raise and educate your kids, have a car, truck, boat all one one blue collar income.
To those who thought I was exaggerating (or just full of it) I present this as proof.

And as I said, it's worse down here. The MAGAhats have been hypnotized (which musta been tough, there ain't much there to hypnotize) into believing to their very cores that the TV show Happy Days was reality until Obama took office. No unemployment. No crime. No violence. No brown people. No drugs. No alcoholism. No poverty.

This is why they believe that a giant wall will keep out visa overstays and drugs that come in by air and sea.

Which is OK. They're entitled to their delusions. Except that in America, when our delusions run hard into reality, we get to killing.

This is why I've given up on providing links. It just doesn't matter.

The fact that my stats on visa overstays come from Immigration and Customs Enforcement. . . doesn't matter.

The fact that my stats on drugs entering the country come from the Drug Enforcement Administration. . . doesn't matter.

I thought I had Moosie convinced of the folly of building a wall across 700 miles of trackless, uninhabited, unsurvivable desert, and he agreed. Briefly. But as you've now seen, he snapped back into the delusion that The Wall would fix everything. Facts. . . didn't. . . matter.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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And a lot of the problems above didn't exist yet because of A) no inflation compared to today, B) those who would suffer such things weren't at that point yet and C) everyone had jobs because jobs were everywhere and it didn't matter education level for most, nor did it matter if you were trained because you got training on the job. It was the generation after the war who started to shove things downhill, the children of those people of the 50's and 60's.
That still doesn't answer how do you solve all those problems.

Well, beating, jailing, and killing anybody who's not an Old Stock Canadian is the obvious (but wrong) answer.
 

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To those who thought I was exaggerating (or just full of it) I present this as proof.

And as I said, it's worse down here. The MAGAhats have been hypnotized (which musta been tough, there ain't much there to hypnotize) into believing to their very cores that the TV show Happy Days was reality until Obama took office. No unemployment. No crime. No violence. No brown people. No drugs. No alcoholism. No poverty.

This is why they believe that a giant wall will keep out visa overstays and drugs that come in by air and sea.

Which is OK. They're entitled to their delusions. Except that in America, when our delusions run hard into reality, we get to killing.

This is why I've given up on providing links. It just doesn't matter.

The fact that my stats on visa overstays come from Immigration and Customs Enforcement. . . doesn't matter.

The fact that my stats on drugs entering the country come from the Drug Enforcement Administration. . . doesn't matter.

I thought I had Moosie convinced of the folly of building a wall across 700 miles of trackless, uninhabited, unsurvivable desert, and he agreed. Briefly. But as you've now seen, he snapped back into the delusion that The Wall would fix everything. Facts. . . didn't. . . matter.
No one doubts your stats , but pointing out one problem doesn’t mean the other doesn’t exist .
 

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And a lot of the problems above didn't exist yet because of A) no inflation compared to today, B) those who would suffer such things weren't at that point yet and C) everyone had jobs because jobs were everywhere and it didn't matter education level for most, nor did it matter if you were trained because you got training on the job. It was the generation after the war who started to shove things downhill, the children of those people of the 50's and 60's.
That still doesn't answer how do you solve all those problems.
I already told you. You just chose not to listen.