Is the US targeting Iran now??

Serryah

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The deal was NEVER SIGHED, they just sent truck load of money over ( OK, skid loads of money ) .

A Trip Down Memory Lane: In 2015 the Obama Administration Said the Iran Deal Wasn’t Even a ‘Signed Document’
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/iran-nuclear-deal-not-signed-document-not-binding/

State Department says Iran NEVER SIGNED nuclear deal and it's not 'legally binding' as it tells Congress to butt out of Obama's 'political commitments'

The Obama administration has disclosed to Congress that this summer's controversial nuclear arms agreement with Iran was never signed and is not legally binding, according to a new report this week.

The State Department made the disclosures in a letter to Kansas congressman Mike Pompeo, a Republican, who had written the department to inquire why the agreement as submitted to Congress in July did not bear the signature of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani.

'The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) is not a treaty or an executive agreement, and is not a signed document,' Julia Frifield, an assistant secretary for legislative affairs wrote Pompeo last Thursday.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...gress-butt-Obama-s-political-commitments.html


"John Kerry speaks to them a lot," Mr. Trump told reporters at the White House Thursday, referring to the Iranian government. "John Kerry tells them not to call. That's a violation of the Logan Act. And frankly he should be prosecuted on that, but my people don't want to do anything."

Was Obama’s $1.7 billion cash deal with Iran prohibited by U.S. law?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-...d-for-talking-to-tehran-amid-rising-tensions/


All right, my bad, I thought it was signed into US treaty law, or recognized as a treaty at all in the US.



Doesn't negate that Iran was complying with the initial deal worked out, even if unsigned.


And then Iran got the money that was THEIRS.

Why people keep lying that Iran was given money by the US as if it was US money to begin with... no, it wasn't.


Following the issuance of a IAEA report verifying implementation by Iran of the nuclear-related measures, the UN sanctions against Iran and some EU sanctions will terminate and some will be suspended. Once sanctions are lifted, Iran will recover approximately $100 billion of its assets (U.S. Treasury Department estimate) frozen in overseas banks.[101]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action
 

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What has John Kerry been doing on his recent visits to Iran?
here is what the racist had to say about war in Iran in 2012

Apr 8th, 2012
I'm pretty sure that the Bamster will begin a war in Sept. or Oct. to win re-election. It will be against Iran or maybe even Pakistan. Anything to keep his Marxist agenda alive in USA. The war will boost his support for a couple of months as the minds of the Americans will be diverted from the utter mess that BHO has made their country, soacially and economically.


but in 2018 when Trump wants a war in Iran suddenly its "what has John Kerry been doing lately?"

because being a racist means never having to say you're sorry.
 

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I see another false flag BS story about Iran shooting down a US drone. The sheeple will eat it up and Trump will send in the troupes so he can get ahead in the election polls. It's sad and appalling that so many sheeple fall for this crap every time the US wants to go to war. 200+ years of false flags and they still fall for it hook, line and stinker. Pathetic.
 

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United States: The false flag empire

The trajectory of the American Empire has relied so heavily on false flag attacks one could describe it as a false flag empire. AMERICAN PRESIDENTS like to describe the United States as a force for freedom, but by any measure America has, from its early days, been an imperial power subjugating and ruling other people’s lands mainly through bloody conquests, often using false flags or provocation in order to have a casus belli.
Based on past American behaviour, everybody should be very sceptical of the American claim of Iranian involvement in the recent attack on the oil tankers.
The timing is suspicious. In this recent case of ships in the Persian Gulf, why would the Iranians blow up ships when the Japanese PM Shinzo Abe was in Tehran — the first by a Japanese prime minister since the Islamic Revolution in 1979, in a visit aimed at reducing tensions between the U.S. and Iran?
After a meeting with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, Mr Abe warned the region could “accidentally” slip into conflict. Just hours before the attacks, Abe had publicly declared that, contrary to U.S. accusations, Iran had “no intentions” of building a nuclear weapon. United States Secretary of State Mike Pompeo claimed the U.S. assessment was based on intelligence,” but no details were given and, sadly, the UK Government has fallen into line.



America’s history of using false flags to start wars

1. Mexican wars of 1819 and 1846-48
Florida, Texas, New Mexico and California were Spanish possessions that revolted for independence. The U.S. built a fortification 150km inside the Mexican border.
2. Annexation of Hawaii, 1893
Queen Liliukokalani proposed changing the Hawaiian Constitution, so U.S. Marines aided the leaders of a pro-American coup and a provisional government was proclaimed. In the last days of the Harrison presidency, a Treaty of Annexation was drawn up.
3. Spanish-American War, 1898
The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba, in which 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The U.S.A. declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards
4. Korean War, 1950-1953
South Korean incursions into North Korea (1949) led to war. It involved leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the U.S. military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities).
5. Vietnam War Tonkin Incident, 1964
The National Security Agency admitted it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 by manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam War.
6. Grenada invasion
The reason for the invasion given by the U.S. was that American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The U.S. supported a new rightwing leader.
7. Panama invasion
An incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Manuel Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand the control of the Canal over to Panama was cancelled.
8. U.S. and Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988
The CIA-organised coup of 1953 replaced Iranian Prime Minister Mosaddegh with the dictatorial Shah, who was given the best Western military equipment. But after the revolt against the Shah, the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein to attack Iran with strategic support and weapons, including gas warfare agents. "Too bad they both cannot lose", is how Kissinger evaluated this situation.
9. Bombing of Lybia, 1984
A Mossad agent admitted that, in 1984, they had planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya, which broadcast fake terrorist trasmissions in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.
10. Desert Storm (First Gulf War), 1991
Saddam Hussein asked for permission from the U.S. (via their ambassador, April Glaspie) to attack Kuwait, which had been asked by the U.S. to put pressure on Saddam to pay back money lent to fight against Iran. Kuwait was also illegally siphoning off oil from Iraqi fields. Saddam was told by Glaspie that the U.S. does not care about Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Snr mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti U.S. ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.
11. Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 10/7/01
Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden, was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. The leaders of Afghanistan were willing to hand over Osama for trial to a neutral nation, but the U.S. refused this compromise.
12. Enduring Justice (Second Gulf War), 3/20/03
The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the U.S., with WMD's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them had been made.


More: https://independentaustralia.net/article-display/united-states-the-false-flag-empire,12822
 

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All right, my bad, I thought it was signed into US treaty law, or recognized as a treaty at all in the US.
Doesn't negate that Iran was complying with the initial deal worked out, even if unsigned.
And then Iran got the money that was THEIRS.
Why people keep lying that Iran was given money by the US as if it was US money to begin with... no, it wasn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action
My sympathies are with Iran TBH.
 

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I see another false flag BS story about Iran shooting down a US drone. The sheeple will eat it up and Trump will send in the troupes so he can get ahead in the election polls. It's sad and appalling that so many sheeple fall for this crap every time the US wants to go to war. 200+ years of false flags and they still fall for it hook, line and stinker. Pathetic.
If you look at the food growing potential of 'the Greater Israel' map how much of the world could that feed? If it is most' then the field in production today would have to suffer a 'scorched earth' event. The area did not fall under their control so food production by locals for locals before exports is still a global possibility. That is also the elimination of 'the big stick' so the EU will be the one to experience the most changes in the shortest period of time. The rest of the world will fall into the hole left behind so recover is as fast as possible rather than impossible.
 

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I guess Shanahan doesn’t wanna play any more, and he didn’t even start..
18 Jun 2019
Military.com | By Gina Harkins
President Donald Trump's pick to run the Pentagon has taken himself out of the running following media reports that near decade-old domestic disputes were holding up his FBI background checks.
Patrick Shanahan, the former Boeing executive Trump planned to nominate to replace Jim Mattis as defense secretary, "decided not to go forward with his confirmation process so that he can devote more time to his family," Trump tweeted on Tuesday.
More
https://www.military.com/daily-news...ecretary-after-reports-fbi-investigation.html
Age old Domestic disputes holding up confirmation?
:)
Well, the guy obviously knows something about real warfare.
 

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Something BHO was bound and determined they should get.



Somehow that wouldn't surprise me. BHO is likely the worse Pres the US has ever had (and that's saying something) but history will eventually show if I'm right. Never liked him even when he was running - felt too smooth AND he was from Chicago/Illinois which should have made people leary right from the beginning. The fact that the Dems are saying there was no "scandal's" under his Admin makes one have to laugh like hell! But hey, what's the truth worth now-a-days?
 

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Somehow that wouldn't surprise me. BHO is likely the worse Pres the US has ever had (and that's saying something) but history will eventually show if I'm right. Never liked him even when he was running - felt too smooth AND he was from Chicago/Illinois which should have made people leary right from the beginning. The fact that the Dems are saying there was no "scandal's" under his Admin makes one have to laugh like hell! But hey, what's the truth worth now-a-days?
I think he may have been a little too non white for y'all
 

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What color is he Hoid?

Trump Approves Strikes on Iran, but Then Abruptly Pulls Back

WASHINGTON — President Trump approved military strikes against Iran in retaliation for downing an American surveillance drone, but pulled back from launching them on Thursday night after a day of escalating tensions.
As late as 7 p.m., military and diplomatic officials were expecting a strike, after intense discussions and debate at the White House among the president’s top national security officials and congressional leaders, according to multiple senior administration officials involved in or briefed on the deliberations.
Officials said the president had initially approved attacks on a handful of Iranian targets, like radar and missile batteries.
The operation was underway in its early stages when it was called off, a senior administration official said. Planes were in the air and ships were in position, but no missiles had been fired when word came to stand down, the official said.
The abrupt reversal put a halt to what would have been the president’s third military action against targets in the Middle East. Mr. Trump had struck twice at targets in Syria, in 2017 and 2018...………...More
 

Hoid

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President Bone Spurs got them cold feet.

I am sure he will waffle his way forward on Iran.
 

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Why are all the psychopaths on the other side of the room when something goes 'boom'? In your case, and Bloomers, it would because you have the mental attitude that would allow you to plant one or at least allow it to be done without doing anything to stop it.




Do not worry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


REASONABLE AND RATIONAL HEADS WILL PREVAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This is why Cdn public opinion is turning against LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We are content to let Muslims believe whatever LUNATIC CRAP they desire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS LONG AS THEY DO IT AT HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND NOT IN CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral idiocy that allowed them to "select" 60,000 Muslims....................................


from refugee camps RUN BY HAMAS TERRORISTS....................................................


WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA THAT WILL COST US DEARLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS for Muslims selling oil...................................................


just LOOK at how PISSED the Iranians are at having to deal with.............................................


United Nations Sanctions that make it HARD to sell Iranian oil!!!!!!!!!!!


The West wants Iranian oil.......................



and Iran wants western money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is the religious WACK JOBS that want to destroy Israel that are the problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Let Iran IGNORE Israel.......................................


and much of the world will go back to sleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Personally I have long advocated "QUARANTINE" for the Muslim Fanatics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


if they cannot get at us then they cannot hurt us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Muslim religious fanaticism is CATCHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Quarantine will prevent it spreading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And quarantine is morally FAR MORE ACCEPTABLE THAN BOMBS of any sort!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Bolton Argues War With Iran Only Way To Avenge Americans Killed In Upcoming War With Iran




WASHINGTON—Addressing the future casualties in a somber and often-emotional press conference, John Bolton told reporters Thursday that a war with Iran was the only way to avenge Americans killed in an upcoming war with Iran. “Sadly, I believe direct military conflict with Iran is the only suitable response for the heartbreaking deaths of our troops in that upcoming military conflict,” said the national security advisor, noting that only by launching a ground invasion of the Islamic Republic could he ensure the thousands of U.S. troops who will perish in that ground invasion will not perish in vain. “It would be a dishonor to everything our brave men and women will sacrifice if we fail to send them into battle to retaliate for their eventual deaths. Then, and only then, can we truly close the book on this impending tragedy.” Bolton also announced plans to issue 15 preemptive Medals of Honor to military spouses who will be widowed after losing their husbands in the 2021 Battle of Tehran.


https://www.theonion.com/bolton-argues-war-with-iran-only-way-to-avenge-american-1835704580
 

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Bolton Argues War With Iran Only Way To Avenge Americans Killed In Upcoming War With Iran

WASHINGTON—Addressing the future casualties in a somber and often-emotional press conference, John Bolton told reporters Thursday that a war with Iran was the only way to avenge Americans killed in an upcoming war with Iran. “Sadly, I believe direct military conflict with Iran is the only suitable response for the heartbreaking deaths of our troops in that upcoming military conflict,” said the national security advisor, noting that only by launching a ground invasion of the Islamic Republic could he ensure the thousands of U.S. troops who will perish in that ground invasion will not perish in vain. “It would be a dishonor to everything our brave men and women will sacrifice if we fail to send them into battle to retaliate for their eventual deaths. Then, and only then, can we truly close the book on this impending tragedy.” Bolton also announced plans to issue 15 preemptive Medals of Honor to military spouses who will be widowed after losing their husbands in the 2021 Battle of Tehran.
https://www.theonion.com/bolton-argues-war-with-iran-only-way-to-avenge-american-1835704580
Love the Onion.
 

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Trump ordered strike against Iran, then called it off


President Trump ordered an attack on Iran on Thursday in retaliation for the downing of a surveillance drone in the Strait of Hormuz, but called off the operation just hours before it was due to take place, officials said.

Administration officials said the president approved the counterstrikes after Iran��s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps shot down a Navy RQ-4 operating off Iran��s southern coast, a move Trump described as a ��very big mistake.��

source: WAPO


Now THIS is very interesting.........from Trumps psycho dynamic point of view.
 

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Good for Trump for not following Bolton's advice of a completely gratuitous and disproportionate attack of Iran that would have cost a 150 lives and escalated tensions to the edge of war in the Gulf.
 

Hoid

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It indicates to me that the drone was not in international airspace