Humboldt Broncos bus crash

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B00Mer said:
We are all going to get there soon enough..

The respect for the dead should have come with a life sentence for the driver of the truck.

What he got was a slap on the face to the dead and their families
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Hi Boomer- I gave you a "thumbs up" out of respect for your opinion as you have more insight into it than most. I have a slightly different view of the punishment. The remorse, regret and guilt that will live in this man's head will far eclipse any punishment the courts could impose. I think when meting out punishment the worst punishment should be reserved for the worse cases or neglect/intent. I think a life sentence should be reserved for a driver who was drunk at the wheel and didn't care about the results. Trying to "get even" doesn't resolve anything. "Throwing away the key" just makes a bad situation worse. Using this man's experience in educating other drivers MIGHT result in the some good looking forward.
 
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JLM said:
Hi Boomer- I gave you a "thumbs up" out of respect for your opinion as you have more insight into it than most. I have a slightly different view of the punishment. The remorse, regret and guilt that will live in this man's head will far eclipse any punishment the courts could impose. I think when meting out punishment the worst punishment should be reserved for the worse cases or neglect/intent. I think a life sentence should be reserved for a driver who was drunk at the wheel and didn't care about the results. Trying to "get even" doesn't resolve anything. "Throwing away the key" just makes a bad situation worse. Using this man's experience in educating other drivers MIGHT result in the some good looking forward.
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...and there is the reason I say he should have been locked up..

When you have a Commercial License you are held to a higher standard than other drivers..

First off you are allowed to drive for only 13 hours per day maximum. (In the USA 11 max)

The reason for that is clear, Driving Sleepy? It’s Worse Than Driving Drunk



So think about this from my perspective..

1. the guy makes maybe 43 cents a mile..

2. He falsified his log book to drive a few extra hours over his limit.. an extra $51 in the drivers pocket.. (GREED)

3. Because he neglected to follow the law, falsified his log book (A Crime) and because of this killed 16 people..

What the driver did was worse than driving drunk.
 
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B00Mer said:
...and there is the reason I say he should have been locked up..

When you have a Commercial License you are held to a higher standard than other drivers..

First off you are allowed to drive for only 13 hours per day maximum. (In the USA 11 max)

The reason for that is clear, Driving Sleepy? It’s Worse Than Driving Drunk



So think about this from my perspective..

1. the guy makes maybe 43 cents a mile..

2. He falsified his log book to drive a few extra hours over his limit.. an extra $51 in the drivers pocket.. (GREED)

3. Because he neglected to follow the law, falsified his log book (A Crime) and because of this killed 16 people..

What the driver did was worse than driving drunk.
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Again, I hear you. BUT is "throwing away the key" going to improve anything?
 
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You do raise on good point, Boomer, that I've often thought about. "Driving drunk" may not be quite as criminal or dangerous as is made out. Many times a person who is knowingly impaired will make adjustments for it (not that, that excuses it) but still may be a lot safer than driving while exhausted and NOT thinking.
 
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JLM said:
You do raise on good point, Boomer, that I've often thought about. "Driving drunk" may not be quite as criminal or dangerous as is made out. Many times a person who is knowingly impaired will make adjustments for it (not that, that excuses it) but still may be a lot safer than driving while exhausted and NOT thinking.
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When you go out drinking and get behind the wheel, what is your body doing?

It's starting to removed the alcohol from your system.

When you get behind the wheel fatigued, what is your body doing..

Getting more tired.

As far as I am concerned if he took 1 life 10 years, 16 lives 160 years.. toss away the key and sue the company and this asshole out of business.
 
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Holding commercial truck drivers to a higher standard, while laudable, simply isn’t realistic. It’s like trying to hold cab drivers to a higher standard. You’re not dealing with society’s elite.
 
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JLM said:
I think a life sentence should be reserved for a driver who was drunk at the wheel and didn't care about the results.
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If the buddy cared about the results, he wouldn't have plowed through the intersection at full speed.
It didn't just jump out at him from nowhere...



Trying to "get even" doesn't resolve anything. "Throwing away the key" just makes a bad situation worse. Using this man's experience in educating other drivers MIGHT result in the some good looking forward.
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But that didn't happen either.


Did a bunch of drivers who were also playing logbook games get deported home ?
Did every Alberta truck driver get hauled in for an extra 'education day' to talk about the crash ?
Did the owner of the trucking company even show up for his court date and his $5000 fine ?




You hope the people involved have remorse.
You pray they will feel something.. forever.
You have faith the system will change, and people will take responsibility.


I may have some news for you......
 
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As for throwing away the key, no real value in that. It just makes people feel better. Kind of like the long gun registry or the death penalty
 
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Cannuck said:
Holding commercial truck drivers to a higher standard, while laudable, simply isn’t realistic. It’s like trying to hold cab drivers to a higher standard. You’re not dealing with society’s elite.
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You would know, being you hold a class 3 license, you're definitely not society’s elite living in your sisters basement.

...and that spare tire.. geez man. Loose the weight dude, you're fat.



Guess that's what happens when you sit around all day in your sisters basement.
 
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B00Mer said:
You would know, being you hold a class 3 license, you're definitely not society’s elite living in your sisters basement.

...and that spare tire.. geez man. Loose the weight dude, you're fat.



Guess that's what happens when you sit around all day in your sisters basement.
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You have to be careful, Boomer, I don't know how much more he can stand. I've already confirmed he's stupid, belligerent and a liar...…….pretty soon he'll be getting an inferiority complex. Oooops I forgot, the "elite" don't have that problem! :)
 
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Bad driving.

Cannuck said:
Holding commercial truck drivers to a higher standard, while laudable, simply isn’t realistic. It’s like trying to hold cab drivers to a higher standard. You’re not dealing with society’s elite.
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As if you are one who's qualified to judge "elite"
 
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