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If you are too dense to understand the quote, why bother trying to read it?

Indeed. I’m smart enough to read it and understand it. Are you smart enough to figure out the quote function after ten years of trying?
 

pgs

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Indeed. I’m smart enough to read it and understand it. Are you smart enough to figure out the quote function after ten years of trying?
That’s great you are amazing , now what do you contribute ?
 

spilledthebeer

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I'm not quite sure how Hoidie manages it. When the average person makes a statement, you would think there is a 50% chance he could be right. A rare few like Hoid and the Idiot whose name I don't recall can't seem to make that threshold. Are those boys just plain dumb? :)




Dumb??????????????????


HOID??????????????????????????


Nah.............................


He is simply paying the price for being a LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Slavish devotion to the party line could make even Albert Einstein look like a doofus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




There are so very many aspects of LIE-beral policy that collapse into insanity if given more than a cursory look!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And propaganda meister HOID is charged with making the LIE-beral MADNESS SOUND SENSIBLE...............................


even though it is NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



HOID has a TERRIBLE JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Imagine him waking up every morning knowing that he MUST put in another day of slinging absolute GARBAGE on behalf of LIE-beral party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He KNOWS it is all LIES...................................but there he is..................................


spewing LIE-beral crap like a super charged manure spreader!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And getting no respect or thanks for his dedication to the indefensible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Here is an article illustrating why Our idiot Boy Justin should NOT be rushing to get involved with China on any sort of deals! With some comments of my own in brackets):

HARD LABOUR: U.S. sportswear traced to factory in China’s internment camps


(And of course Hoid will not explain or defend the LIE-beral love of Chinese DICTATORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)


(Is it not amusing that these kind of reports emerge from the Chinese Soviet Slave State on a regular basis- but Cdn LIE-berals IGNORE the reports!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

From Associated Press

Published: December 17, 2018. Updated: December 17, 2018 5:16 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ World

In this Dec. 3, 2018, photo, a police station is seen inside the Artux City Vocational Skills Education Training Service Center at the Kunshan Industrial Park in Artux in western China's Xinjiang region. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan)

(And WHY would a “training centre” require a police presence unless those being trained were there UN-WILLINGLY???????????)

HOTAN, China — Barbed wire and hundreds of cameras ring a massive compound of more than 30 dormitories, schools, warehouses and workshops in China’s far west. Dozens of armed officers and a growling Doberman stand guard outside.

(Such a security presence is NOT NEEDED at Cdn training schools!!!!!!!!!)

Behind locked gates, men and women are sewing sportswear that can end up on U.S. college campuses and sports teams.

This is one of a growing number of internment camps in the Xinjiang region, where by some estimates 1 million Muslims are detained, forced to give up their language and their religion and subject to political indoctrination. Now, the Chinese government is also forcing some detainees to work in manufacturing and food industries. Some of them are within the internment camps; others are privately-owned, state-subsidized factories where detainees are sent once they are released.

(In Chinese legal minds- “released” is a euphemism meaning the detainee has now been sufficiently intimidated they can be trusted to report for slave duty as required by the state- without a police escort!!!!!!!!!)

The Associated Press has tracked recent, ongoing shipments from one such factory inside an internment camp to Badger Sportswear, a leading supplier in Statesville, North Carolina. The shipments show how difficult it is to stop products made with forced labour from getting into the global supply chain, even though such imports are illegal in the U.S. Badger CEO John Anton said Sunday that the company would source sportswear elsewhere while it investigates.

(Do we want our own workers trying to compete against SLAVES? And do we even want to conduct any business with SLAVE OWNERS?? How is it that our LIE-berals can be so worried about freedom and fairness and ignore Chinese out-rages?????????????????)

Chinese authorities say the camps, which they call training centres, offer free vocational training for Uighurs, Kazakhs and others, mostly Muslims, as part of a plan to bring minorities into “a modern civilized” world and eliminate poverty in Xinjiang. They say that people in the centres have signed agreements to receive vocational training.

(Yes- suitably skilled guards can EXTORT all Manner of “agreements” from their victims!! And maybe we should be asking Our idiot Boy Justin to EXPLAIN just what it is about why “he likes the way the Chinese get things done”!!!!!!!!)

(And as the historical record reveals- Soviet Re-education methods can result in DEATH by beatings and starvation and disease!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In related news - maybe some wretched LIE-beral can explain why Pierre Trudeau would fawn over - as he called it- “the genius of Chinese Chairman Mao in rushing 30 million Chinese to the gallows”????????)

In this Monday, Dec. 3, 2018, photo, a building with the words “Neighborhood Center” at the top is seen behind barbed wire fences in the Artux City Vocational Skills Education Training Service Center at the Kunshan Industrial Park in Artux in western China’s Xinjiang region. (AP Photo/Ng Han Guan)

(The Soviet mind has little of humour in it but they have a FINE SENSE OF IRONY! Calling a prison a “Community Centre” sounds wildly ironic!! Until one releases the ENTIRE COMMUNITY probably IS IN the centre- being detained for offending the Soviet overlords for “crimes” that Cdns would shrug off!!!!!!!!!)

The Xinjiang Propaganda Department did not respond to a faxed request for comment. A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman accused the foreign media Monday of making “many untrue reports” about the training centres, but did not specify when asked for details.

“Those reports are completely based on hearsay evidence or made out of thin air,” the spokeswoman, Hua Chunying, said at a daily briefing.

(Both Soviets and LIE-berals make a habit of refusing to discuss or even admit that any embarrassing problem ever exists! So absolute and unshakeable is their faith that they believe they can magically blind us by a simple DENIAL of truth and logic!! This is why Our idiot Boy can tell us there IS NO SCANDAL attached to the Lavalin Scandal- and expect us to then FORGET his shameless behaviour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

However, a dozen people who either had been in a camp or had friends or family in one told the AP that detainees they knew were given no choice but to work at the factories. Most of the Uighurs and Kazakhs, who were interviewed in exile, also said that even people with professional jobs were retrained to do menial work.

(Denial of testimony from political prisoners deemed “socially irresponsible” is standard despot policy It is used often enough by Cdn LIE-berals - to scorn and seek to silence people who dispute LIE-beral opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Payment varied according to the factory. Some got paid nothing, while others earned up to several hundred dollars a month, they said — barely above minimum wage for the poorer parts of Xinjiang. A person with firsthand knowledge of the situation in one county estimated that more than 10,000 detainees — or 10 to 20 per cent of the internment population there — are working in factories, with some earning just a tenth of what they used to earn before. The person declined to be named out of fear of retribution.

(No doubt treatment depends on the nature of the “social offense” and on the willingness of the sinner to be “rehabilitated”????????????)

A former reporter for Xinjiang TV in exile said that during his month-long detention last year, young people in his camp were taken away in the mornings to work without compensation in carpentry and a cement factory.

“The camp didn’t pay any money, not a single cent,” he said, asking to be identified only by his first name, Elyar, because he has relatives still in Xinjiang. “Even for necessities, such as things to shower with or sleep at night, they would call our families outside to get them to pay for it.”

Rushan Abbas, a Uighur in Washington, D.C., said her sister is among those detained. The sister, Dr. Gulshan Abbas, was taken to what the government calls a vocational centre, although she has no specific information on whether her sister is being forced to work.

“American companies importing from those places should know those products are made by people being treated like slaves,” she said. “What are they going to do, train a doctor to be a seamstress?”

(Such mis-applied training options are COMMON among Soviet Socialists!! Just look at the array of BIGOTS that Cdn LIE-berals have appointed to various important legal positions - such as immigration “judge” simply because they have “suitable political views”!)

(Immediately after being elected in 2015, Our idiot Boy Justin went on a purge of immigration judges who were considered to hold “unsuitable” views- meaning they were judged by LIE-berals as being too critical of the sob stories that some Fake Refugees were spinning in court!! LIE-berals MUCH PREFER judges who will blindly follow LIE-beral values- without getting hung up on things like guilt and innocence of future LIE-beral supporters!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(This is why LIE-berals are so enraged at the verdict in the trial of farmer Gerald Stanely who accidentally shot and killed drunken native thief Colton Boushie in a late night confrontation! It is EMBARRASSING for LIE-berals to hear public talk about the number of drunken native criminals out there - that LIE-beral hug thug judges are coddling and excusing for the sake of native votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Note- there is no consideration of the fact that Stanley was merely protecting his property from drunken thieves- who discreetly dumped their own fully loaded sawed off .22 calibre rifle when Stanley approached them as they were trying to turn their car around in his front yard - after failing to find and steal a suitable tire from Stanley - to replace their own flat tire!!!!!!!!!!)

(For LIE-berals and Soviets- IMAGE IS EVERYTHING- and truth is EASILY ALTERED OR DISPOSED OF ENTIRELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

In this Dec. 8, 2018, photo, Adilgazy Yergazy, a farmer, holds up pictures of his detained little brothers at his home in a village near Almaty, Kazakhstan. Yergazy says two of his little brothers were arrested and taken to internment camps last year, and that this year a factory opened in the camp where they were being held. He heard that his little brother’s access to family is limited to a monthly face-to-face visit at the camp. (AP Photo/ Dake Kang)

The predominantly Muslim Uighur and Kazakh ethnic minorities in China live mostly in the Xinjiang region bordering Pakistan and Afghanistan, with a legacy dating back to ancient traders on the Silk Road. In recent decades, violent attacks by Uighur militants have killed hundreds and prompted the Chinese government to blanket Xinjiang with stifling security.

(So which came first? The Uighur Jihadists? Or the Godless Communists who consider religion to be the shameful “opiate of the masses”???????)

About two years ago, authorities launched a vast detention and reeducation campaign. They also use checkpoints, GPS tracking and face-scanning cameras for surveillance of ethnic minorities in the region. The slightest perceived misstep can land someone in the internment camps.

(Lord knows- Muslim radicals CAN be a murderous pain in the ass- but do we want to blame Muslims in this case- who happen to be living in a society that scorns ALL RELIGIONS! After all - Communism is considered to be the ULTIMATE RELIGION by its leaders!! And do we want to get into this CHINESE argument in any way at all????? I say NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Men and women in the complex that has shipped products to Badger Sportswear make clothes for privately-owned Hetian Taida Apparel in a cluster of 10 workshops within the compound walls. Hetian Taida says it is not affiliated with the internment camps, but its workforce includes detainees.

(One really has to aks if there is ANY WAY to deal honestly with China in this sort of situation?? Shall we not keep our hands clean by shunning much of the Chinese “trade”????????)

As China faced growing international pressure about the detention camps, its state broadcaster aired a 15-minute report in October that featured a “vocational skills education and training centre” in the southern Xinjiang city of Hotan.

“Terrorism and extremism are the common enemy of human civilization,” the China Central Television program began. In response, the report said, the Xinjiang government was using vocational training to solve this “global issue.”

(Yes- both Soviets and |Nazis are skilled at presenting “Potemkin Villages” in a good light!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Wu Hongbo, the chairman of Hetian Taida, confirmed that the company has a factory inside the same compound as the training centre featured in the China Central Television report. Hetian Taida provides employment to those trainees who were deemed by the government to be “unproblematic,” he said, adding that the centre is government-operated.

“We’re making our contribution to eradicating poverty,” Wu told the AP over the phone.

The 20 to 30 trainees at the factory are treated like regular employees and make up a small fraction of the hundreds of people in its workforce, he said.

Trainees featured in the state television report praised the Communist Party for saving them from a criminal path.

“I don’t dare to imagine what would have happened to me if I didn’t come here,” one Uighur student said. “The party and government found me in time and saved me. They gave me a chance to reinvent myself.”

(How heart warming! I am sure that Lavalin employees would be equally fulsome in their praise of Our idiot Boy as he works tirelessly to save “Lavalin jobs” while being “unfairly” tarred and feathered by our media as a shameless influence peddler and probable law breaker!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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Dumb??????????????????


HOID??????????????????????????


Nah.............................


He is simply paying the price for being a LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Slavish devotion to the party line could make even Albert Einstein look like a doofus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


A lengthy post!
 

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Unless the party is in the middle of a mutiny, with key players leaking out stories to the Globe and Mail to try and sabotage the leader in order to force him out to make way for a fresh new leader who is widely known for her steadfast commitment to ethical leadership and true devotion to progressive social justice.
From all I am seeing in the news lately, Dec the coup failed and the two of them are now definitely on the outs with the party and the caucus. Actions have consequences and there is no doubt in the minds of the party that they don't belong in the fold.
 

JLM

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From all I am seeing in the news lately, Dec the coup failed and the two of them are now definitely on the outs with the party and the caucus. Actions have consequences and there is no doubt in the minds of the party that they don't belong in the fold.


I agree they don't belong in the fold, but who wants to be in the fold of a bunch of yes men?
 

Walter

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From all I am seeing in the news lately, Dec the coup failed and the two of them are now definitely on the outs with the party and the caucus. Actions have consequences and there is no doubt in the minds of the party that they don't belong in the fold.
What coup?
 

spilledthebeer

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What coup?




EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Coup??????????????????????????



The latest LIE-beral attempt to distract from Lavalin is to dismiss the JWR and Philpot position as nothing more than sour grapes!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And a failed effort to promote JWR and PHILPOT to superior positions in the LIE-beral party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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spilledthebeer

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The Lie-beral Coup. They play Trivial Pursuit for it. It's made out of a human skull.


A human skull you say??????????????????????


Tell me Comrade Curious.........................................



is it the skull of your beloved Joe Clark............................who?????????????????


Is that why he has disappeared so completely from public life????????????????????????


Or is he just a Red Tory Non entity like you???????????????????
 

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‘Liberal support just bleeding all over the place’

Angus Reid’s most recent poll, released on March 28, has the Liberals trailing by nine percentage points, with 28 per cent support compared to 37 per cent for the Conservatives. That deficit is in the same range other pollsters have found of late, but it’s how they got there that might worry Justin Trudeau’s party. “This is less of a result of the Conservative party surging and more the result of Liberal support just bleeding all over the place,” says Shachi Kurl, executive director of the Angus Reid Institute.
And if the top-level data looks concerning for the governing party, it’s when you zoom in that the topography gets more ominous.
Vote retention—the proportion of people who voted for a party in 2015 who say they would choose the same party again this fall—is “rock solid” for the Conservatives, at 88 per cent, while the Liberals would retain 58 per cent of their 2015 voters. And that erstwhile Liberal support has been sprinkled relatively equitably between the Conservatives, NDP and Green party. That suggests that the shift is a stampede away, rather than a dash toward any particular tent.
“It does suggest that the bleed or the fleeing from the party at the moment has more to do with an anger at the party and a rejection of what people are seeing today from their government and from their prime minister,” Kurl says. “[If] we saw a clear signal that all of that vote was going NDP, or Conservative, then it would say to me, okay, this has to do with the other leader more than it has to do with the own goals or the self-inflicted wounds of the Liberals. People are just sort of scattering in all directions, it’s a bit of a blast radius.”...……...more