Humboldt Broncos bus crash

Jinentonix

Hall of Fame Member
Sep 6, 2015
11,277
5,904
113
Olympus Mons
I doubt it. The families of the Humboldt victims showed restraint under very difficult circumstances. Some of them have stated their forgiveness to Mr Sidhu. They set an example of grace in the face of unspeakable tragedy.
I think it's "easier" when the guilty party has taken full responsibility for his actions. He refused a plea bargain. He entered a plea of guilty, preventing wasting time and resources on a trial. I think he fully understands the gravity of what he did and I think most of the community can sense that he's genuinely remorseful.
What bothered me was the family members of those killed and maimed in the accident got to read him their victim impact statements. I think that was wrong and a little cruel.
 

Jinentonix

Hall of Fame Member
Sep 6, 2015
11,277
5,904
113
Olympus Mons
When you look at this picture it's from a bird's eye view. If you get down to ground level it is sort of a blind intersection with the trees there. It's quite likely that if you were travelling north on 35 you'd never see a west-bound vehicle on 335 running the stop sign until it was too late. There wouldn't even be time to shit your pants first.
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
547
113
Vernon, B.C.
I think it's "easier" when the guilty party has taken full responsibility for his actions. He refused a plea bargain. He entered a plea of guilty, preventing wasting time and resources on a trial. I think he fully understands the gravity of what he did and I think most of the community can sense that he's genuinely remorseful.
What bothered me was the family members of those killed and maimed in the accident got to read him their victim impact statements. I think that was wrong and a little cruel.


Yes and no - I think the victims have a right to let the perpetrator know in a civil way how he's affected them. A couple of the women crossed a line when they resorted to name calling (I believe one called him a monster) and false accusations. No sane or reasonable person would agree that he chose to deliberately run the stop sign and definitely not at the speed he did. He was careless not vindictive!
 

MHz

Time Out
Mar 16, 2007
41,030
43
48
Red Deer AB
When you look at this picture it's from a bird's eye view. If you get down to ground level it is sort of a blind intersection with the trees there. It's quite likely that if you were travelling north on 35 you'd never see a west-bound vehicle on 335 running the stop sign until it was too late. There wouldn't even be time to shit your pants first.
With any luck it would be quick.

Since the farmer would complain about losing his windbreak you could install a mirror on the fence-post where the wreckage is located that would allow the reflection to show movement or not.
The company whose product was being hauled should also be on the hook as that would increase the level of safety. After a certain number of miles and hours a sleeper and a cross shift is standard and then the truck can run 24/7 legally for 3 weeks and then both drivers need 3 days off to comply with OH&S guidelines.
 

Mowich

Hall of Fame Member
Dec 25, 2005
16,649
998
113
75
Eagle Creek
When you look at this picture it's from a bird's eye view. If you get down to ground level it is sort of a blind intersection with the trees there. It's quite likely that if you were travelling north on 35 you'd never see a west-bound vehicle on 335 running the stop sign until it was too late. There wouldn't even be time to shit your pants first.


[FONT=&quot]From the Statement of Facts:[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]7) There were no environmental conditions that contributed to the collision.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]i) The road conditions and weather conditions at the scene were suitable for safe driving. The intersection was clearly visible to Mr. Sidhu as he was approaching it prior to the collision.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]ii) The sun did not interfere with Mr Sidhu's ability to operate the Semi-Tractor Unit or view the Intersection.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]iii) The obstructed sight line across the southeast quadrant, at the corner of the Intersection was inconsequential because the proper signage was in place at the intersection. More specifically, the trees in the southeast quadrant, at the corner of the Intersection would NOT have obstructed Mr Sidhu's ability to observe the Bus approaching the Intersection if he had stopped the Semi-Tractor Unit to check for traffic before entering the Intersection, as required by the posted signage.[/FONT]
 

MHz

Time Out
Mar 16, 2007
41,030
43
48
Red Deer AB
Today you could add a wireless flashing light that gets triggered when another vehicle trips a beam 100 yds away from the intersection.
There are legal standards and there is 'above and beyond the call'. Making the X into a traffic circle is another option in low traffic areas but it consumes more land.
 

taxslave

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 25, 2008
36,362
4,340
113
Vancouver Island
Your buddy didn't know that he could quit at any time?
Wow, sounds like you have a true brother of the soul, and especially of the brain, there.
I mean, when you start off not understanding the difference between a 20-year sentence and a life sentence, clearly the conversation is not going to go well.
20 years is a life sentence in Canada. Our government believes that deap down no criminal ever meant to be bad so as soon as they show remorse and find gawd they are relieved of all concequences for their actions.
 

B00Mer

Make Canada Great Again
Sep 6, 2008
46,948
8,065
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.canadianforums.ca
I realize when people are in the depths of grief, they don't always choose their words too carefully. The one woman who lost a family member should have quit her impact statement before the last sentence, where she stated he chose to run the stop sign. I thought that was most unfair. Maybe he didn't see it, maybe he dozed off for a second, who knows!

He chose to run the stop sign, because he was running illegal..

What the fukk you retards don’t get?? He shouldn’t have been behind the fukking wheel.. period!!

He chose to drive illegally, thus killing 16 people..

Same if he was drunk..

Put the fukker in jail and toss away the key.
 

Curious Cdn

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 22, 2015
37,070
8
36
20 years is a life sentence in Canada. Our government believes that deap down no criminal ever meant to be bad so as soon as they show remorse and find gawd they are relieved of all concequences for their actions.
If one is designated a "Dangerous Offender" they can be held essentially forever at the pleasure if the Crown. Bernardo, Picton, Clifford Olsen ... none of them were or are free nor will they ever be. I expect the same from of Bruce McArthur although he's already a senior citizen and his "lifetime" is only a couple more decades. Anyway, it's simply not true that murderers are "out" after 20 years. Our guilty "government" is a succession of governments from all political stripes that built the edifice over a century and a half.
 

Curious Cdn

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 22, 2015
37,070
8
36
He chose to run the stop sign, because he was running illegal..
What the fukk you retards don’t get?? He shouldn’t have been behind the fukking wheel.. period!!
He chose to drive illegally, thus killing 16 people..
Same if he was drunk..
Put the fukker in jail and toss away the key.
If we locked up every fukcer who shouldn't be behind the wheel, we'd be feeding about five million inmates every day.
 

B00Mer

Make Canada Great Again
Sep 6, 2008
46,948
8,065
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.canadianforums.ca
If we locked up every fukcer who shouldn't be behind the wheel, we'd be feeding about five million inmates every day.

Show your ignorance even more.. The USA went to eLogs because of this, now Canada has.

If you break the law and kill 16 people because of it.. you go to jail.. but I get it, the Liberals see a brown East Indian being victimized by Canadian laws boo hoo

1 law for Canadians, and another for new Canadians ****ing hypocrites

If you break the law, and kill people because of it.. you go to prison.. driving illegal behind a commercial vehicle, driving drunk, high or in excessive speeds..
 

Curious Cdn

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 22, 2015
37,070
8
36
Show your ignorance even more.. The USA went to eLogs because of this, now Canada has.
If you break the law and kill 16 people because of it.. you go to jail.. but I get it, the Liberals see a brown East Indian being victimized by Canadian laws boo hoo
1 law for Canadians, and another for new Canadians ****ing hypocrites
If you break the law, and kill people because of it.. you go to prison.. driving illegal behind a commercial vehicle, driving drunk, high or in excessive speeds..
Jail, yes. Jail for ever-and-ever is quite totally whacko.
 

B00Mer

Make Canada Great Again
Sep 6, 2008
46,948
8,065
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.canadianforums.ca
Jail, yes. Jail for ever-and-ever is quite totally whacko.

He killed 16 people.. 16 families affected..

How many years should he get? No wait, lets say one of those killed because of this guys greed to make an extra $50 to $100 before quitting was your mother, your sister, your son or daughter.. hope thier life was worth the $100 bucks.

Also, I am a truck driver.. just handed my contractor my CVRO.. 7 stops at scales, all 7 passed.
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
547
113
Vernon, B.C.
He killed 16 people.. 16 families affected..

How many years should he get? No wait, lets say one of those killed because of this guys greed to make an extra $50 to $100 before quitting was your mother, your sister, your son or daughter.. hope thier life was worth the $100 bucks.

Also, I am a truck driver.. just handed my contractor my CVRO.. 7 stops at scales, all 7 passed.


Who really knows what his mind set was?
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
547
113
Vernon, B.C.
Show your ignorance even more.. The USA went to eLogs because of this, now Canada has.

If you break the law and kill 16 people because of it.. you go to jail.. but I get it, the Liberals see a brown East Indian being victimized by Canadian laws boo hoo

1 law for Canadians, and another for new Canadians ****ing hypocrites

If you break the law, and kill people because of it.. you go to prison.. driving illegal behind a commercial vehicle, driving drunk, high or in excessive speeds..


Did he violate the criminal code or did he commit a traffic infraction? Have you never ran a light/stop sign, speeded, tail gated? Those are all infractions which are potentially deadly, but most often aren't!
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
547
113
Vernon, B.C.
He chose to run the stop sign, because he was running illegal..

What the fukk you retards don’t get?? He shouldn’t have been behind the fukking wheel.. period!!

He chose to drive illegally, thus killing 16 people..

Same if he was drunk..

Put the fukker in jail and toss away the key.


You might consider the possibility that you ARE the retard. (What do you mean by "driving illegal"? ) Did he not have the proper license, or was impaired by alcohol or dope?
 

JLM

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 27, 2008
75,301
547
113
Vernon, B.C.
"No wait, lets say one of those killed because of this guys greed to make an extra $50 to $100 before quitting was your mother, your sister, your son or daughter.. hope thier life was worth the $100 bucks."


There is a classic example of where emotions, supersede reason and that sentiment has no business is a court room. A human life really can't be equated to any amount of money.
 

B00Mer

Make Canada Great Again
Sep 6, 2008
46,948
8,065
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.canadianforums.ca
Did he violate the criminal code or did he commit a traffic infraction? Have you never ran a light/stop sign, speeded, tail gated? Those are all infractions which are potentially deadly, but most often aren't!

OMG!!! A commercial vehicle operates under different laws and standards than your little shit box toyota..

First off any, and I mean any infractions from a broken tail light in Kentucky to a low pressure warming in California is reported on my license back in Alberta, Canada.

We operate under Federal Laws & Provincial.. if you run ghe USA, again Federal and every state you run in.. and you had better know the laws.. for example run California and you don’t know what a bridge law is, could cost you $1000 USD

As far as running over your log hours.. only reason to do that is to get extra miles, and miles means money. PERIOD!!