Go to any border crossing and take a look at the commercial traffic flowing both ways . Add in marine air and rail . Yup it looks like we are diversifying our trade .
Will Tump Tear up NAFTA???
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You are the last person on these boards that should be calling people stupid . But I guess it takes one to know one .
No Trump is mean and a bully , our Justine is cute , cuddly and a brilliant negotiator.
Salads are nice, but so are parsnips which are easy to grow and will keep all winter. (Have you tried parsnips fried in butter? Delicious)
I agree.
It could have been quickly and quietly updated - but quick and quiet is not Trump
Why blame Trump and not Trudeau? They both decided they were going to play "hard ball" Let's just be glad the whole charade is over with & no real harm to anyone!
Rabid.
Butthurt.
Leftists.
I wonder how much of the SJW agenda got into the agreement. :lol:
MCA/FTA
It's a little hard to see this as anything but a total sellout by Justin and Co. I haven't read the details but it seems to me that the last domestically owned sector of the economy; dairy, eggs, poultry; loses its protected right of supply and its market. It's left open to the predatory highly subsidized factory farms of America.. up to 50%+ in intermediate product. And what did Canada get. As far as i can tell we got nothing.
Supposedly the auto parts industry.. almost all owned by American conglomerates will have 'expanded' access to American assemblers. With no guarantee they won't actually transfer production to American or Mexican factories if the economies of scale or wages so dictates. That is a chimera of 'access' in exchange for real jobs and real Canadian Agriculture.
Canada no longer assembles cars. NAFTA has turned it into a 'Flea Market' Economy. We're left with a duct taped, glued together assemblage selling scraps to American manufacturers. This 'deal' further 'integrates' the Canadian Economy into the North American controlled market, which is solely to the benefit of the USA (and only to an elite of financiers and traders in American society), and makes it completely reliant on it as a minor and disposable subsidiary.
Trudeau has no understanding and has given up even the pretense of promoting a sovereign, national, integrated, industrial and agricultural, economy trading in value added and finished product. That would provide some safe harbour from the financial storms that will rock the World Economy as Free Trade and Monetarism continues to erode its foundations.
I don't blame Trump. He's doing what he promised his electorate he would do.. put America first. It's Trudeau who has sold out his country. That is no surprise for someone who has capitulated continually during his tenure.. including...
Supreme Court of Canada and its radical agenda of the Culture of Death
The feminist/homosexual dictatorship of the Liberal Party
Global Investment Banks and Trading Cartels and Supranational Agencies
Tribal forces of disintegration of Canada.
China (TPP), Europe (EUFTA) and now Trump (MCA-FTA)
It's really no surprise for someone who deems himself a Citizen of the World and Canada as a White, Male, Christian, Artifice.
It's also no surprise that Canada's slimey, post national, grovelling Business Esablishment is just thrilled with it all. And this is part of process that has been forwarded by these Global Quislings.. Mulroney, Chretien, Harper, Trudeau.. for 30 years and have produced an economy that no longer produces secure well paying jobs, pensions, affordable housing, reliable infrastructure or a sovereign Canadian controlled economy.
It's a disgrace and betrayal by Trudeau and co.
It's a little hard to see this as anything but a total sellout by Justin and Co. I haven't read the details but it seems to me that the last domestically owned sector of the economy; dairy, eggs, poultry; loses its protected right of supply and its market. It's left open to the predatory highly subsidized factory farms of America.. up to 50%+ in intermediate product. And what did Canada get. As far as i can tell we got nothing.
Supposedly the auto parts industry.. almost all owned by American conglomerates will have 'expanded' access to American assemblers. With no guarantee they won't actually transfer production to American or Mexican factories if the economies of scale or wages so dictates. That is a chimera of 'access' in exchange for real jobs and real Canadian Agriculture.
Canada no longer assembles cars. NAFTA has turned it into a 'Flea Market' Economy. We're left with a duct taped, glued together assemblage selling scraps to American manufacturers. This 'deal' further 'integrates' the Canadian Economy into the North American controlled market, which is solely to the benefit of the USA (and only to an elite of financiers and traders in American society), and makes it completely reliant on it as a minor and disposable subsidiary.
Trudeau has no understanding and has given up even the pretense of promoting a sovereign, national, integrated, industrial and agricultural, economy trading in value added and finished product. That would provide some safe harbour from the financial storms that will rock the World Economy as Free Trade and Monetarism continues to erode its foundations.
I don't blame Trump. He's doing what he promised his electorate he would do.. put America first. It's Trudeau who has sold out his country. That is no surprise for someone who has capitulated continually during his tenure.. including...
Supreme Court of Canada and its radical agenda of the Culture of Death
The feminist/homosexual dictatorship of the Liberal Party
Global Investment Banks and Trading Cartels and Supranational Agencies
Tribal forces of disintegration of Canada.
China (TPP), Europe (EUFTA) and now Trump (MCA-FTA)
It's really no surprise for someone who deems himself a Citizen of the World and Canada as a White, Male, Christian, Artifice.
It's also no surprise that Canada's slimey, post national, grovelling Business Esablishment is just thrilled with it all. And this is part of process that has been forwarded by these Global Quislings.. Mulroney, Chretien, Harper, Trudeau.. for 30 years and have produced an economy that no longer produces secure well paying jobs, pensions, affordable housing, reliable infrastructure or a sovereign Canadian controlled economy.
It's a disgrace and betrayal by Trudeau and co.
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Canada no longer assembles cars.
Gee, I was just by the Ford Oakville Assembly Complex (2km down the street from where I live) where one new model (the Lincoln Nautilus), one re-designed model (the Ford Edge) and two older models (the Ford Flex and the Lincoln MKT) are coming off the assembly line as I post.
I guess that they didn't get Coldstream's memo, nor did the GM plant in Oshawa, the Honda plant in Alliston, the Toyota plants in Cambridge and Woodstock, the Chrysler plants in Brampton and Windsor, the General Dynamics armoured vehicle plant in London, the Cami plant in Ingersoll orthevarious Magna plants making pretty much fully assembled cars for the likes of BMW and Mercedes.
Try again Coldstream and stick to something that you know.
Gee, I was just by the Ford Oakville Assembly Complex (2km down the street from where I live) where one new model (the Lincoln Nautilus), one re-designed model (the Ford Edge) and two older models (the Ford Flex and the Lincoln MKT) are coming off the assembly line as I post.
I guess that they didn't get Coldstream's memo, nor did the GM plant in Oshawa, the Honda plant in Alliston, the Toyota plants in Cambridge and Woodstock, the Chrysler plants in Brampton and Windsor, the General Dynamics armoured vehicle plant in London, the Cami plant in Ingersoll orthevarious Magna plants making pretty much fully assembled cars for the likes of BMW and Mercedes.
Try again Coldstream and stick to something that you know.
Losing. Trump set an artificial deadline and then gave Canada a better deal in the auto sector than it had before. He achieved almost nothing while Canada held on the the pats of NAFTA it most valued.
There is a pattern to Trump's conduct. He criticises, condemns virtually all deals, and organisations that HE did not create or have an influence on. For all intents and purposes He wanted to change the name so it was HIS input. He can now brag to his base that he got the good deal for the US.......... while Mexico and CDA can breath a sigh of relief that the thing is done....... without further threats to damage CDN economy. Trump is riding rough shod on just about everyone except Putin and Kim. They are the new THREE AMIGOS