Russia-U.S. "Relations" & Maneuverings

JLM

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Or you either. You get all your 'facts' from 'wondering', lol.

You DON'T get facts from wondering. You MIGHT get facts from the response to wondering. :) or you might get a bunch of bull shit! :)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/american-racists-look-for-allies-in-russia

right wing hate groups across America rallying to Putin's side.


Why does everything boil down to left wing or right wing? Does either one do any more hating than the other. We should forget the WING bull shit and figure out what works and what doesn't. :lol:
 

MHz

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Good point, facts are what you have at the end of the journey rather than that is what you start a journey with.

I'm impressed, too bad that is coming from a knuckle dragger, lol.
 

Bar Sinister

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Why does everything boil down to left wing or right wing? Does either one do any more hating than the other. We should forget the WING bull shit and figure out what works and what doesn't. :lol:




Well said. That is exactly my philosophy. Go for what works; not what you would like to work.
 

Bar Sinister

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Danbones

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Doing "the Kr3zkin" again eh?
;)
Like a rug doood, like a rug!

Russian money to support the N.R.A. is money well spent, as it protects the 2nd. Amendment.
Komrads..

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Yes, being pro america is russian propaganda eh?
:)
lol

Talk about yer totally brain dead Nazi communist tyrannical LYING Loopy GLOBALIST leftii!

Oh HIGH Kr3zkii! Oooops! Didn't see you standing there...
 

OpposingDigit

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  1. Remember when Russians bailed out the criminals who bled our country and told their victims to kick rocks?
  2. Remember when Russians rigged the primaries to favor Hillary Clinton?
  3. Remember when Russians said “let’s see how this plays out” while protesters at Standing Rock were getting brutalized by the police?
  4. Remember when Russians gave $14 trillion to Wall Street by way of Quantitative Easing and Zero Interest Rate Policy which were actually massive wealth transference schemes?
  5. Remember when Russians passed a $1.5 trillion tax cut that favored the very wealthy while tacking on debt that our children will have to pay for?
  6. Remember when Russians passed a supposed health care bill that was really a kiss to Big Pharma and Insurance companies by forcing Americans to be customers of a broken for profit health scam corporations?
  7. Remember when Russians kept starting wars for the sake of oil and to enhance the fortunes of the military-financial complex instead of investing those trillions to fix our country?
  8. Remember when Russians spied on Americans by collecting metadata through telecommunications and internet companies?
  9. Remember when Russians purged voters during the New York primaries?
  10. Remember when Russians deported a record number of immigrants and demonized Muslims?
  11. Remember when Russians kept shooting unarmed “black” men like it was a turkey shoot?
  12. Remember when Russians made the prison-industrial complex a cash cow by reinstituting slavery through penal codes?
  13. Remember when Russians refused to take care of homeless veterans after they came back from wars broken by PTSD?
  14. Remember when Russians refused to prosecute one banking CEO who fleeced tens of millions of Americans of their life savings?
  15. Remember when Russians codified the extralegal assassination of US citizens and combatants alike without a hearing?
  16. Remember when Russians poisoned people in Flint, Michigan?
  17. Remember when Russians allowed corporations to flood our elections and our government as a whole with billions of dollars which effectively nullified our votes?
  18. Remember when Russians kept forcing treaties like NAFTA and TPP which wrecked our economy and enriched corporations at the expense of workers?
  19. Remember when Russians passed one economic policy after another that allowed the vast majority of wealth to go to the 1% while our incomes regressed?
  20. Remember when Russians turned America into a pyramid scheme?
https://21stcenturywire.com/2018/07/21/20-things-to-remember-about-russias-takeover-of-the-usa
 

MHz

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No to all of the above points.

Which leader from which nation visited both of them in private before the first debate? No points, it is a reality check.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Much better to keep Pukin happy than to piss him off!
So why is it ok.. to pizz off the leaders of the US allies??
Deliberately pizzing off (bullying)any leader or counterpart is counterproductive .....and even foolhardy-even if some see it as a bizarre diplomatic" tactic.
 

Walter

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So why is it ok.. to pizz off the leaders of the US allies??
Deliberately pizzing off (bullying)any leader or counterpart is counterproductive .....and even foolhardy-even if some see it as a bizarre diplomatic" tactic.
Art of the deal.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Initially, I didn't buy into the whole golden shower thing. But it looks like the Russians must have something on this moron. And when you look at it that way, it sort of makes sense. What doesn't make sense is how utterly ultra-moronic the rank and file of support is.

You are wishing our PM had brains.


I already know our PM is an idiot. But you see, I don't rub my rhubarb on an ignoramus just because he criticizes the idiot. I also don't stand on the sideline cheering when said ignoramus attempts to **** my country in the ass. But there you are bent over, looking for links to lube up with.
 

Twin_Moose

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So why is it ok.. to pizz off the leaders of the US allies??
Deliberately pizzing off (bullying)any leader or counterpart is counterproductive .....and even foolhardy-even if some see it as a bizarre diplomatic" tactic.

Initially, I didn't buy into the whole golden shower thing. But it looks like the Russians must have something on this moron. And when you look at it that way, it sort of makes sense. What doesn't make sense is how utterly ultra-moronic the rank and file of support is.




I already know our PM is an idiot. But you see, I don't rub my rhubarb on an ignoramus just because he criticizes the idiot. I also don't stand on the sideline cheering when said ignoramus attempts to **** my country in the ass. But there you are bent over, looking for links to lube up with.

How has the lay on the sanctions and not talking to Putin been working out? Could it possibly be that Trump is demanding NATO to start ponying up to look like they are serious when making demands from Putin? Maybe people should give him a 1/2 a chance like the other leaders in history, the last one they criticized this hard made the USSR crumble
 

MHz

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Vlad the Embroiler?
lol, you know not of what you speak.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX-x-0-r_kg&t=2s
Prince Charles Descendant Of Vlad the Impaler and Many Others

. . . the last one they criticized this hard made the USSR crumble
You know not of what you speak.
https://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/
Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [“From the Shadows”], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.