Ford's fight against the carbon tax is DOOMED

Retired_Can_Soldier

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You gotta admit The Donald is hugely amusing from a distance. Like any country not the US.


It's embarrassing that the people living in this day and age would elect a second rate reality show moron and lap up his blatant lies with so much vigor. I mean Hillary was a shitty choice as well, but this idiot is reflection of the outright ignorance and gullibility of people. He knocks Canada and the UK while embracing North Korea and Russia. He's a train wreck of a president. He makes Richard Nixon look squeaky clean, George W. Bush look elitist, and God help us, he's only just begun.

I wonder when he'll get around to draining that swamp and changing the corruption in D.C.
The Republican's are no different than the Democrats. They all talk a good game until they get up to that slop trough.
 

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It's embarrassing that the people living in this day and age would elect a second rate reality show moron and lap up his blatant lies with so much vigor. I mean Hillary was a shitty choice as well, but this idiot is reflection of the outright ignorance and gullibility of people. He knocks Canada and the UK while embracing North Korea and Russia. He's a train wreck of a president. He makes Richard Nixon look squeaky clean, George W. Bush look elitist, and God help us, he's only just begun.

I wonder when he'll get around to draining that swamp and changing the corruption in D.C.
The Republican's are no different than the Democrats. They all talk a good game until they get up to that slop trough.
Yes the swamp are digging in and fighting back . What did you expect them to just roll over ? How do you like the employment numbers coming out of America ? Not bad for a second rate reality tv star .
 

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Yes the swamp are digging in and fighting back . What did you expect them to just roll over ? How do you like the employment numbers coming out of America ? Not bad for a second rate reality tv star .




Hey soldier- your anger is justified but please recall that the people who signed onto the Carbon crap and trade tax ALL EXPECTED to be given enough gravy from it that their carbon rich lifestyle would be IMMUNE to LIE-beral policy!



Here is an article reminding us that LIE-beral/NDP policy is now so complicated, convoluted, hypocritical and desperately flawed that its failings- and the social damage they are doing cannot be hidden any longer:


Just how stupid are LIE-berals and their NDP cousins? Lorry Goldstein gives us a clue-and its too bad Alberta premier Rachel Notley is still missing HER clues! I have always said the NDP members are simply people who lack the low guile and cunning needed to be `proper` LIE-berals and this story proves me right! Here is the Goldstein column along with some comments of my own in brackets):

Alberta sues itself over carbon pricing. By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun. First posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 06:30 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 06:35 PM EDT

How are Canadian governments going to fix the climate if they can’t even run their carbon pricing policies competently?

The latest fiasco comes from Alberta, where Premier Rachel Notley’s NDP government has asked the courts to strike down an Alberta government regulation it says could cost the public $2 billion. The problem is, the NDP’s own actions led to this fiasco.

Alberta energy companies are bailing out of money-losing contracts for buying coal-fired electricity called power purchase agreements (PPA), after the NDP government increased the carbon levy on coal in January, 2016.

The companies are allowed to get out of the contracts -- handing the financial losses to the public -- if government actions make them “more unprofitable”, which is what the carbon levy did.

Deputy Premier Sarah Hoffman said the NDP government wasn’t aware of this regulation when it introduced its carbon levy and accused the previous Progressive Conservative government of secretly putting it into place 16 years ago.

(I say that most politicians lack the grey matter to recall what they had for breakfast yesterday morning-or where they had it either-so expecting them to remember something that occurred decades ago is not possible. But its indicative of NDP idiocy that instead of repealing THEIR new and obviously ill conceived law-they simply want the original to be killed off! Thus DEMANDING that UN-ELECTED CDN judges be used to ERASE legal contracts signed in good faith years or even decades ago! What manner of precedent does this send when govt destroys legal contracts for the sake of flawed ideology?)

She called it the “Enron” clause, arguing it was agreed to by the then PC government at the request of U.S. energy giant Enron, which later collapsed because of massive fraud.

One of the companies using the provincial regulation to get out of its PPA is Enmax, a wholly-owned subsidiary of the city of Calgary, where the NDP government’s lawsuit has infuriated Mayor Naheed Nenshi.

Nenshi describes it as “outrageous” adding, “we have the spectacle of the provincial government suing itself because apparently it didn’t know its own policies that have been in place for 15, 16, years and that Enmax has been abiding by.”

(From DIRECT OBSERVATION I can say that when the money runs out, people go CRAZY-and Alberta is now broke-AND NUTS!)

Alberta Interim PC Leader Ric McIver accused the NDP of gross incompetence. He said the regulation the NDP is pleading ignorance of “has been available publicly through the Queen’s Printer for 15 or 16 years. So if the government didn’t know what the regulations were and what the contracts were before they changed them, they are completely negligent and incompetent.”

Indeed, even if the regulation wasn’t approved by the normal process 16 years ago, how could Notley’s government, elected in May 2015, have missed it when doing its due diligence research on the impacts of its carbon levy? Did it not ask the Alberta civil service for all relevant provincial regulations that could impact the carbon levy?

(What it comes down to is that Cdn law is becoming so complex that its easy to miss key pieces-and this OUGHT TO BE FOOD FOR THOUGHT-to the clown college of politicians who think they can ram through Carbon crap and trade laws WITHOUT BADLY messing up our economy! The pieces of the puzzle are many-and poorly marked- but LIE-berals and their NDP pals play on, convinced their POSE of saintly good will and sweet ideology will protect them from legal and fiscal stupidity! AS well as hiding their GROSS GREED for more gravy to BUY HOG votes with-and this is the driving force behind all their Carbon CRAP action!)

Anything’s possible in a lawsuit, of course, but for the province to ask the courts to retroactively strike down a provincial regulation governing legal contracts signed 16 years ago sounds like a hard case to win.

It also sounds as if Notley’s government is trying to divert attention from a $2 billion mistake on its part that may have to be paid for by all Albertans.

Then again, so much of what the provinces are doing on carbon pricing makes no sense.

Ontario is giving away free carbon credits -- essentially free public money -- to major industrial emitters for at least the first four years of its looming cap-and-trade program, one of the main factors that undermined cap-and-trade in Europe, starting 11 years ago.

(But of course small Ontari-owe businesses who are not so LIE-beral friendly still MUST BUY carbon credits!)

Neither the federal government nor any province -- not even BC which comes closest -- is introducing 100% revenue neutral carbon pricing programs, the most effective way of lowering emissions, as opposed to merely grabbing more money from the public.

(LIE-beral carbon crap and trade is turning our electrical system into a GIANT LIE-beral slush fund to satisfy their greed!)

Indeed, when Notley introduced her carbon tax, taking effect in 2017, it was clear from her statements she didn’t understand what “revenue neutral” means.

(Its no wonder Notley and her ilk draw a blank when the phrase `revenue neutral` is used in their presence-ALL the parties of the Cdn left SCORN revenue neutral fiscal options as employing revenue neutral policy is the best way to throw Lefties back into the opposition party obscurity they have TEMPORARILY been lifted out of! Only those loonie leftists with the resources to fuel the entitlements of civil service Hogs and their GROSS gravy train will have any hope of retaining the support of the Hogs!)

(The UGLY truth is that loonie leftists are going to RUIN us all with this carbon crap and trade garbage unless we call a HALT to it! NOW!)
 

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Yes the swamp are digging in and fighting back . What did you expect them to just roll over ? How do you like the employment numbers coming out of America ? Not bad for a second rate reality tv star .

How do I like the numbers?

The numbers coming out of the USA have nothing to do with Trump. That's like saying the rebound in the Canadian economy has anything to do with Trudeau. It doesn't, and it will be short lived once inflation catches up to the pending trade war we about t embark on.

If this mental midget gets into an all out trade war with China, things are going to get very expensive and as a result the buying public will pull back and it will lead to a slow down in economic growth and recession.

He is an idiot. Shitting all over Theresa May and hugging that ****ing Putin after a chemical attack on the UK. Then backpedaling to "wouldn't."

He is ****ing up Nato, while Putin sits back and laughs. He is what Stalin called, "A useful idiot."

And still, he's followed by the hardcore morons who don't understand that they are being conned.

Hey soldier- your anger is justified but please recall that the people who signed onto the Carbon crap and trade tax ALL EXPECTED to be given enough gravy from it that their carbon rich lifestyle would be IMMUNE to LIE-beral policy!


I don't support the carbon tax, never have. I think Trudeau is as stupid as Trump, just not quite as insane. I still hold out hope that there there will be a provincial backlash against the the carbon tax once Jason Kenny is premier and the rest of the provinces, like Saskatchewan and Ontario, and with the exception of B.C., find their balls.
 

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rest assured that things are going to get very expensive for 99% of the population.

they have to, otherwise the trillion dollar gift to the wealthy does not work.
 

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How do I like the numbers?

The numbers coming out of the USA have nothing to do with Trump. That's like saying the rebound in the Canadian economy has anything to do with Trudeau. It doesn't, and it will be short lived once inflation catches up to the pending trade war we about t embark on.

If this mental midget gets into an all out trade war with China, things are going to get very expensive and as a result the buying public will pull back and it will lead to a slow down in economic growth and recession.

He is an idiot. Shitting all over Theresa May and hugging that ****ing Putin after a chemical attack on the UK. Then backpedaling to "wouldn't."

He is ****ing up Nato, while Putin sits back and laughs. He is what Stalin called, "A useful idiot."

And still, he's followed by the hardcore morons who don't understand that they are being conned.




I don't support the carbon tax, never have. I think Trudeau is as stupid as Trump, just not quite as insane. I still hold out hope that there there will be a provincial backlash against the the carbon tax once Jason Kenny is premier and the rest of the provinces, like Saskatchewan and Ontario, and with the exception of B.C., find their balls.
So Trumps tax cut has nothing to do with the booming economy . O K .
 

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Income tax cuts only benefit the wealthy cuz the poor don’t pay income tax.
since when?


I thought US taxes were 11% for people earning under $19K

Of course I don't have your vast knowledge.
 

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https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx

thanks for the info Racist Guy.

I've lived and worked in America, and i can assure you that poor people pay income tax, and all sorts of other taxes - in fact if you include all the other taxes they pay a far greater percentage of their income in taxes than do rich people.

the rule of thumb has always been that the bottom 1/5 pay 1/5 of their income in taxes - but Pee Pee Tape might have changed that now.