Now confirmed that Trump is putting innocent children in cages

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These people are not actually committing felonies - and that is what makes the child abduction so inappropriate and over the top.

If they were felons then yes - it might be appropriate to take their kids from them until they are through the justice system.

But they are not felons - they are just normal people trying to immigrate into America just like millions of other have done over the years.

The outsized punishment for the misdemeanor crime is why Trump has to bring in "Angel Families" in an attempt to somehow justify this injustice.

Amazing how many outright lies you can pack into a single post.

but Obama shot someone in self defense!!!

what's wrong with Trump massacring thousands of innocents?

the white nationalist climate change believers brook no hypocricy.

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"The point is they are being arrested and charged and incarcerated for lack of bail or surety. That is why the children are being taken into state care, as would happen for anyone incarcerated who had no other family to take care of the children. This happens every day across America. "

Really?

Why then all the kids in empty Walmarts?

if it happens every day why are there no facilities for it to happen everyday?

because you are wrong - it is not normal - it has not happened every day - and it is not right.
So you would rather let the kids fun around the streets with no place to stay and no one to look after them. Typical of a lefty: I'm good I don't care about anyone else.
 

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people have been entering America illegally for 200 years.

why the sudden need to lock them up?

just trying to win points with certain voters?
 

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2008 but last week they had to start using empty Walmarts to put these kids in.

When you shake your head do you hear anything?
 

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people have been entering America illegally for 200 years.

why the sudden need to lock them up?

just trying to win points with certain voters?
It is happening NOW....because Trump is an insane autocrat drunk on power and filled with anger and biases./prejudices.
 

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Didn't they kick Mexicans out after Texas and California won their independence ;)


Illegal immigration to the United States is the entry into the United States of foreign nationals in violation of United States immigration laws and also the remaining in the country of foreign nationals after their visa, or other authority to be in the country, has expired. These foreign nationals are referred to as 'illegal immigrants', 'undocumented immigrants' and 'unauthorized immigrants' in American discourse.
The United States had nearly open borders until 1924,[1][2][3] with only 1% of those trying to get in rejected, usually because they failed the required mental or health exam.[4][5] Earlier immigration controls were enacted with the Page Act of 1875 and Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.[6] The Immigration Act of 1924 established visa requirements and enacted quotas for immigrants from specific countries.[4]
Estimates in 2015 put the number of unauthorized immigrants at 11 million, representing 3.4% of the total U.S. population.[7] The population of unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2007, when it was at 12.2 million and 4% of the total U.S. population.[7][8] Since the Great Recession,

It is happening NOW....because Trump is an insane autocrat drunk on power and filled with anger and biases./prejudices.

No he is trying to force congress (the right way) to deal with it once and for all
 

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2008 but last week they had to start using empty Walmarts to put these kids in.

When you shake your head do you hear anything?

I bet that was even better than the desert they were sleeping on the last couple of months

Just the rattle of empty beer cans :lol:
 

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Didn't they kick Mexicans out after Texas and California won their independence ;)


Illegal immigration to the United States is the entry into the United States of foreign nationals in violation of United States immigration laws and also the remaining in the country of foreign nationals after their visa, or other authority to be in the country, has expired. These foreign nationals are referred to as 'illegal immigrants', 'undocumented immigrants' and 'unauthorized immigrants' in American discourse.
The United States had nearly open borders until 1924,[1][2][3] with only 1% of those trying to get in rejected, usually because they failed the required mental or health exam.[4][5] Earlier immigration controls were enacted with the Page Act of 1875 and Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.[6] The Immigration Act of 1924 established visa requirements and enacted quotas for immigrants from specific countries.[4]
Estimates in 2015 put the number of unauthorized immigrants at 11 million, representing 3.4% of the total U.S. population.[7] The population of unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2007, when it was at 12.2 million and 4% of the total U.S. population.[7][8] Since the Great Recession,



No he is trying to force congress (the right way) to deal with it once and for all
and this abuse of the people i s a negotiating tactic?? ......More than a tad barbaric.

He is just pizzing everyone off...... not getting or inviting anyone to cooperate to get this done. He is about having HIS way........ as opposed to what is logical, and prductive and humane. He is just too radical.& inconstant. No one knows what he will do or say next and using which media
 

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and this abuse of the people i s a negotiating tactic?? ......More than a tad barbaric.

He is just pizzing everyone off...... not getting or inviting anyone to cooperate to get this done. He is about having HIS way........ as opposed to what is logical, and prductive and humane. He is just too radical.& inconstant. No one knows what he will do or say next and using which media
he has already backed down on it.

no guts
 

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he has already backed down on it.

no guts

Faster than the Dems. wanted anyway, they couldn't make enough hay with it even with the fake pictures and all, even though the Dems. got their way, now look stupid for not submitting or writing Bills to fix the problem. Rep. will make hay out of that in Nov. especially if they can pass a bill through the House.
 

Ocean Breeze

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he has already backed down on it.

no guts
For the moment........ as he is so unpredictable that he says/does one thing one HOUR.......then tweets something totally different.

How can ANYONE rely on ANYTHING he says?? How can anyone make a deal with him and consider it valid?? Then if someone pizzes him off.......he goes on a tirade ........muddling the situation even further.
 

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well you can't go by anything he says - but he has no stomach for a fight, and the immigration thing is a fight.

he will retreat to his twitter account and make stupid comments.

big deal