Do you really think being so sanctimonious contributes to any sort of conversation?
The punishment ranges up to 6 months in jail for a first offense, and 2 years for a second offense. That's close enough for government work.
Now confirmed that Trump is putting innocent children in cages
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Do you really think being so sanctimonious contributes to any sort of conversation?
The punishment ranges up to 6 months in jail for a first offense, and 2 years for a second offense. That's close enough for government work.
These people are not actually committing felonies - and that is what makes the child abduction so inappropriate and over the top.
If they were felons then yes - it might be appropriate to take their kids from them until they are through the justice system.
But they are not felons - they are just normal people trying to immigrate into America just like millions of other have done over the years.
The outsized punishment for the misdemeanor crime is why Trump has to bring in "Angel Families" in an attempt to somehow justify this injustice.
If they were felons then yes - it might be appropriate to take their kids from them until they are through the justice system.
But they are not felons - they are just normal people trying to immigrate into America just like millions of other have done over the years.
The outsized punishment for the misdemeanor crime is why Trump has to bring in "Angel Families" in an attempt to somehow justify this injustice.
Do you really believe that ALL people crossing the border from Mexico aren't committing felonies or on their way to a place to commit felonies? I have a gold plated bridge for sale! :lol:
Trump hate is so strong he is willing to ignore Liberal detention policies 
'Ashamed' Comey weighs calling himself Canadian, rips Trump border actions during Ireland visit
'Ashamed' Comey weighs calling himself Canadian, rips Trump border actions during Ireland visit
Um, no it isn't. You use "felony" to make "crime" seem worse.
I use it in its actual meaning.
The point is they are being arrested and charged and incarcerated for lack of bail or surety. That is why the children are being taken into state care, as would happen for anyone incarcerated who had no other family to take care of the children. This happens every day across America.
And they are not 'normal people trying to immigrate to America' but illegal aliens who deliberately violated the border, paying people to sneak them across.
It is the unwillingness of congress over the years to do anything about the porous border which has, in large measure, driven support for Trump. Without this issue, without "build that wall" he might never have become president. To you, perhaps, illegal immigration is not an issue, but it is to many, many people. To the majority of the population, in fact. We see the response to the state not dealing with it in Europe now with the rise of extreme right wing parties, now starting to move into governments.
A line from David Frum seems appropriate here. "When liberals say only fascists will defend borders the people will hire fascists to defend the borders."
Note. No, I'm not saying Trump is a fascist, since Trump has no coherent political or ideological beliefs.
Yes Hoid, you really f*cking care. :lol: Deny deny deny that it's happening in Canada though. If you deny it often enough, you might even convince yourself that it isn't actually happening. Sad way to live life though, only wanting bias confirmation.
Isn't "felony" and "crime" interchangeable as far as meaning goes? Yanks seem to prefer the term "felony".
Some things do not change with time.
They've changed a wee bit. That sign wouldn't "fly" today in most neighbourhoods. :lol:
Not in the United States. "Crime" breaks down into felonies and misdemeanors. Back in England in the day, a felony meant you could be deprived of lands and titles. In the U.S., the Supreme Court long ago ruled that any crime punishable by more than a year in prison (that is to say, where the maximium prescribed sentence is over a year) is a felony.
For example, border jumping has a maximum penalty of six months, and is therefore a misdemeanor.
Returning illegally after one has been deported is punishable by up to two years, and is therefore a felony.
It’s OK cuz weez black.
Obama's DHS Secretary Freely Admits 'We Detained Children,' We 'Believed It Was Necessary'
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32227/obamas-dhs-secretary-freely-admits-we-detained-emily-zanotti
Obama's DHS Secretary Freely Admits 'We Detained Children,' We 'Believed It Was Necessary'
https://www.dailywire.com/news/32227/obamas-dhs-secretary-freely-admits-we-detained-emily-zanotti
but Obama shot someone in self defense!!!
what's wrong with Trump massacring thousands of innocents?
the white nationalist climate change believers brook no hypocricy.
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"The point is they are being arrested and charged and incarcerated for lack of bail or surety. That is why the children are being taken into state care, as would happen for anyone incarcerated who had no other family to take care of the children. This happens every day across America. "
Really?
Why then all the kids in empty Walmarts?
if it happens every day why are there no facilities for it to happen everyday?
because you are wrong - it is not normal - it has not happened every day - and it is not right.
what's wrong with Trump massacring thousands of innocents?
the white nationalist climate change believers brook no hypocricy.
RE
"The point is they are being arrested and charged and incarcerated for lack of bail or surety. That is why the children are being taken into state care, as would happen for anyone incarcerated who had no other family to take care of the children. This happens every day across America. "
Really?
Why then all the kids in empty Walmarts?
if it happens every day why are there no facilities for it to happen everyday?
because you are wrong - it is not normal - it has not happened every day - and it is not right.