Trump's AMERICA : 2018 (& world reaction )

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Oh yeah, Curious George...………...how soon I forget! :lol:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Don't despair folks, Trump is more popular now than at any time since March 20, 2017. :lol:

That's because of that Korea Summit bit of theatre. The general revulsion about the US throwing little children into concentration camps hasn't been polled, yet. Watch that number auger into the ground.
 

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APNewsBreak: Youngest migrants held in 'tender age' shelters

Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children forcibly separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border to at least three "tender age" shelters in South Texas, The Associated Press has learned.
Lawyers and medical providers who have visited the Rio Grande Valley shelters described play rooms of crying preschool-age children in crisis. The government also plans to open a fourth shelter to house hundreds of young migrant children in Houston, where city leaders denounced the move Tuesday.
Since the White House announced its zero tolerance policy in early May, more than 2,300 children have been taken from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border, resulting in a new influx of young children requiring government care. The government has faced withering critiques over images of some of the children in cages inside U.S. Border Patrol processing stations.
Decades after the nation's child welfare system ended the use of orphanages over concerns about the lasting trauma to children, the administration is standing up new institutions to hold Central American toddlers that the government separated from their parents.


APNewsBreak: Youngest migrants held in 'tender age' shelters


Trump and his admin of swamp dwellers are beyond repulsive and disgusting. Anybody who supports this gang of miscreants is either stupid or heartless and soulless.
 

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APNewsBreak: Youngest migrants held in 'tender age' shelters

Trump administration officials have been sending babies and other young children forcibly separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border to at least three "tender age" shelters in South Texas, The Associated Press has learned.
Lawyers and medical providers who have visited the Rio Grande Valley shelters described play rooms of crying preschool-age children in crisis. The government also plans to open a fourth shelter to house hundreds of young migrant children in Houston, where city leaders denounced the move Tuesday.
Since the White House announced its zero tolerance policy in early May, more than 2,300 children have been taken from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border, resulting in a new influx of young children requiring government care. The government has faced withering critiques over images of some of the children in cages inside U.S. Border Patrol processing stations.
Decades after the nation's child welfare system ended the use of orphanages over concerns about the lasting trauma to children, the administration is standing up new institutions to hold Central American toddlers that the government separated from their parents.


APNewsBreak: Youngest migrants held in 'tender age' shelters


Trump and his admin of swamp dwellers are beyond repulsive and disgusting. Anybody who supports this gang of miscreants is either stupid or heartless and soulless.

Canada also detains migrant children, sometimes for months at a time

The U.S. is the focus of international outrage for its policy of separating children from their parents and detaining them after they cross the border in search of asylum.

But Canada also detains migrant children — and in some cases, restricts access to their asylum-seeking parents — despite the fact its stated policy is to do whatever possible to avoid it.
Last year, 151 minors were detained with their parents in Canadian immigration holding centres.

Eleven others were held in custody unaccompanied by an adult, according to the Canada Border Services Agency.
CBSA holds people who are considered a flight risk or a danger to the public, and those whose identity cannot be confirmed.

'Frightening experience'

The holding centres, which are off limits to the public, resemble medium-security prisons. They are surrounded by razor-wire fences and surveilled by guards.
There are three such facilities across Canada, in Vancouver, Toronto, and Laval, Que. In some provinces, asylum seekers are detained in prisons. A recent McGill University study found that detention can be a "frightening experience" for children, leaving them with "psychiatric and academic difficulties long after detention."
Inside, boredom is "pervasive," as children are often left "idle, sleeping or lying on the couches for long periods during the day."

The study examined the experiences of 20 families who were detained in the Toronto and Laval holding centres and found that, in nearly half the cases, children ended up being separated from their parents at some point in the asylum-seeking process.
In detention, mothers are normally permitted to stay with their children. Fathers, on the other hand, are kept separate and only allowed to visit their spouse and children twice a day for about 15 to 30 minutes, according to the study.
In some cases, detained asylum seekers have lived in the country without status for years. In detention, they are given the option of keeping their Canadian-born children with them or sending them to live with extended family or in the custody of provincial youth protection services.
The minors detained last year spent an average of 13 days in custody, but the time period can vary significantly.
The study recounts how, in one instance, a six-year-old girl detained for more than six months asked her parents, "Are they gonna keep us here permanently?"

Feds aim to keep families together

Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said earlier this week that children of immigrants and refugees are detained in Canada only as a last resort.
"Obviously, anyone looking at the human images [from the U.S.] would be very, very concerned," Goodale said.
"Children are very precious creatures, and we all, I'm sure, need to have their safety, their security, their well-being first and foremost in our minds, and that is what lies at the very basis of Canadian policy."
Last November, Goodale issued a directive to CBSA to keep children out of detention and keep families together "as much as humanly possible."
The number of children in detention has dropped slightly under the Liberal government, though it's on pace to rise again this year.

Canada also detains migrant children, sometimes for months at a time
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© Graham Hughes/Canadian Press A guard stands outside the gates of the immigrant holding centre in Laval, Que.
The U.S. is the focus of international outrage for its policy of separating children from their parents and detaining them after they cross the border in search of asylum.

But Canada also detains migrant children — and in some cases, restricts access to their asylum-seeking parents — despite the fact its stated policy is to do whatever possible to avoid it.
Last year, 151 minors were detained with their parents in Canadian immigration holding centres.

Eleven others were held in custody unaccompanied by an adult, according to the Canada Border Services Agency.
CBSA holds people who are considered a flight risk or a danger to the public, and those whose identity cannot be confirmed.

'Frightening experience'

The holding centres, which are off limits to the public, resemble medium-security prisons. They are surrounded by razor-wire fences and surveilled by guards.
There are three such facilities across Canada, in Vancouver, Toronto, and Laval, Que. In some provinces, asylum seekers are detained in prisons.
A recent McGill University study found that detention can be a "frightening experience" for children, leaving them with "psychiatric and academic difficulties long after detention."
Inside, boredom is "pervasive," as children are often left "idle, sleeping or lying on the couches for long periods during the day."

© Loren Elliott/AFP/Getty Images A 16-year-old boy and his father, immigrants from Honduras, wait after being released from detention through the 'catch and release' immigration policy at a relief centre on Sunday in McAllen, Texas. They said they were separated for approximately six days while in detention.
The study examined the experiences of 20 families who were detained in the Toronto and Laval holding centres and found that, in nearly half the cases, children ended up being separated from their parents at some point in the asylum-seeking process.
In detention, mothers are normally permitted to stay with their children. Fathers, on the other hand, are kept separate and only allowed to visit their spouse and children twice a day for about 15 to 30 minutes, according to the study.
In some cases, detained asylum seekers have lived in the country without status for years. In detention, they are given the option of keeping their Canadian-born children with them or sending them to live with extended family or in the custody of provincial youth protection services.
The minors detained last year spent an average of 13 days in custody, but the time period can vary significantly.
The study recounts how, in one instance, a six-year-old girl detained for more than six months asked her parents, "Are they gonna keep us here permanently?"
Also watch: Trudeau won’t ‘play politics’ on U.S. migrant children policy (Provided by Canadian Press)

Feds aim to keep families together

Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said earlier this week that children of immigrants and refugees are detained in Canada only as a last resort.
"Obviously, anyone looking at the human images [from the U.S.] would be very, very concerned," Goodale said.
"Children are very precious creatures, and we all, I'm sure, need to have their safety, their security, their well-being first and foremost in our minds, and that is what lies at the very basis of Canadian policy."
Last November, Goodale issued a directive to CBSA to keep children out of detention and keep families together "as much as humanly possible."
The number of children in detention has dropped slightly under the Liberal government, though it's on pace to rise again this year.

© Roberto Rocha/CBC
Jenny Jeanes, a co-ordinator with the refugee advocacy group Action Réfugiés Montréal, said she still regularly sees children at the Laval detention centre she visits once a week.
"I'm not sure how well the directive is being applied in some cases," she said.
Addressing reporters earlier this week, Goodale said new measures will soon be rolled out to offer alternatives to detention.

'They have to show up'

Chantal Ianniciello, a Montreal immigration lawyer who represents clients in detention, said families would be better served by the regular process for asylum seekers, rather than being stuck in detention while they get the necessary documentation to identify themselves. "The way I see it is that those people have an interest in going to court," she said. "If they want to get status and get anything out of the system, they have to show up."
Another study, produced last year by the International Human Rights Program at the University of Toronto's faculty of law, called on the government to find better alternatives to detention, including community housing.

Denise Otis, a protection officer in the United Nations Refugee Agency, said she's hopeful the Canadian government will work toward that goal.
"We imagine [the government] could find other ways to house them while they are trying to identify themselves."
 
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Moose, we are talking about Trump's America on an American politics thread. Yes we know about Canada's mistreatment of refugees but that is not the topic at hand. Try to stay on topic without the phuking strawman arguments. That is Rummie's job.
 

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Moose, we are talking about Trump's America on an American politics thread. Yes we know about Canada's mistreatment of refugees but that is not the topic at hand. Try to stay on topic without the phuking strawman arguments. That is Rummie's job.

So there is no room to show hypocrisy from our own policies? Just as long as we can demonise Trump OK Gotcha SMH
 

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That's because of that Korea Summit bit of theatre. The general revulsion about the US throwing little children into concentration camps hasn't been polled, yet. Watch that number auger into the ground.

You know something? I'm inclined to agree with you, but I don't think it will dip a great amount as I pretty sure what we are getting now is blow back from the noisy minority! :lol:
 

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So there is no room to show hypocrisy from our own policies? Just as long as we can demonise Trump OK Gotcha SMH
There is a Canadian Politics thread and you could just as easily put your complaints there. All you are doming here is trying to deflect from Trump's insanity.

Trump is a demon. There is no need to demonize a demon.
 

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There is a Canadian Politics thread and you could just as easily put your complaints there. All you are doming here is trying to deflect from Trump's insanity.

Trump is a demon. There is no need to demonize a demon.

What insanity? So we are suppose to be superior and criticize Trump while protecting the same policy here? Or is it we are just suppose to hate Trump for whatever reason you give us? Like I wrote in the last post OK Gotcha
 

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There is a Canadian Politics thread and you could just as easily put your complaints there. All you are doming here is trying to deflect from Trump's insanity.

Trump is a demon. There is no need to demonize a demon.
So that also makes our illustrious PM a demon . Glad we got that straight , those bloody Americans copy catting Canadian detention facilities .
 

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You know something? I'm inclined to agree with you, but I don't think it will dip a great amount as I pretty sure what we are getting now is blow back from the noisy minority! :lol:

Besides, interring little children appears to be acceptible to the Trump support club. They know what's right and wrong ... family values types.

Wait until some of those children die in incarceration. Given the numbers of them, the possibly less than ideal condition that they arrived in and the crowded nature of imprisonment, a few of them will pass away ... and soon. I wonder if we will even hear about that part .... "Shovel and shut up".
 

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There is a Canadian Politics thread and you could just as easily put your complaints there. All you are doming here is trying to deflect from Trump's insanity.

Trump is a demon. There is no need to demonize a demon.


But it is OK to weaponize the kids in the name of politics?
 

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Seems he did......and using the flag...;-)

His idiocy has no limits. As does his compulsion for photo ops and center stage. drama.

Nothing new, we have a Prime Minister who is just as bad if not worse!

Has Trudaeu thrown 2,000 chilkdren in jail.

For ****s sakes what is wrong with you people?

Has Trump thrown 2000 children in jail? Let's not get melodramatic over semantics! Use a brain!
 

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