Trans Mountain ‘pipeline is going to get built’: Trudeau dismisses B.C.’s bitumen ban

taxslave

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No- B.C. will NOT have an NDP govt in the spring- based on current seat ratios- the next govt is quite likely to be Green Party AIRHEADS and they are even more hostile to pipelines than LIE-berals or NDP!



On the plus side giving Greens a chance to FULLY DEMONSTRATE how truly crazy they are- in a province I do not live in sounds almost like a good idea!


Let the Left Coast be the trial Bunnies for Green Madness!

DUDE. THE BCLiberals are on our side. They are the only reason TransMountain got this far. They will form a majority government again in the spring and all will be well in the world again.

TransCanada Pipeline Explodes in West Virginia

A newly installed TransCanada natural gas pipeline exploded early Thursday in the remote Nixon Ridge area of Marshall County in West Virginia.
No injuries were reported but flames and smoke from the blast could be seen as far as 20 miles away, residents told local media. Area police told CBS News the fire was "very large—if you can see it from your house, evacuate."






http://www.ecowatch.com/transcanada-pipeline-explodes-west-virginia-2576042392.html


Yup, we are in safe hands.

One of your hee ros tampering with the pipe.


Your friends are going to need all that oil to jet off to the next save the planet convention in what ever expensive resrt they choose this year. ANd the Sea SHepard terrorists need plenty of low grade fuel while they are harrassing poor fish Farmers that are just trying to feed their family's and pay their gross tax bill.
 

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What does West Virginia pipeline have to do with Cdn apples?


Our idiot Boy has just told us he is BUYING the Kinder Morgan pipeline and we can trust the idiot can we not?


Or do LIE-berals not think the idiot Boy CAN manage it effectively?



LIE-berals know my thought- that LIE-berals are too stupid to run a chip truck at a profit- not even if they are given the potatoes for FREE!


But....... COULD LIE-berals implement TIGHT NEW laws for pipelines to operate under?



Well- NO! LIE-berals have already told us they want to SHUT DOWN the ENTIRE CDN oil patch- FOREVER! At their earliest convenience!


There will be NO new environmental laws from LIE-berals! There will ONLY be vast new bills to construct a pipeline that LIE-berals want to MOTHBALL!!!!!


How CRAZY IS THAT?

Maybe it's time you took a week's holiday or better still a month! Maybe drop into see the shrink for a session or two. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

spilledthebeer

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The bacon comes close but no sitar.




Here is an article illustrating LIE-beral values and exposing their fake news on environmental issues! LIE-berals are concerned about GRAVY and NOT about dirty air! With some comments of my own in brackets):

The Paris agreement - a pretentious, moralistic, socialist document

By Lorne Gunter , Edmonton Sun.
First posted: Saturday, June 03, 2017 05:35 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, June 03, 2017 05:49 PM EDT

It’s funny how esteem for the Paris climate accord has grown since it was signed in December 2015.

Back then it was seen as a weak, political document filled with meaningless promises, diplomatic compromises and dubious science. Yet now that U.S. President Donald Trump has withdrawn his country from the accord, you would think the Paris agreement had descended, wrapped in gold, from a shimmering cloud.

The Paris accord isn’t close to being a binding agreement. Nor is it based much on science.

It has no hard-and-fast emission-reduction targets: Governments set their own targets based on what they think they can get away with voters or what they think they have to give up to shut up the environmental lobby- which is huge and extremely well-funded- and its media pals.

For instance, in Paris, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau committed Canada to reducing its emissions to 30% below 2005 levels by 2030.

There is no way for us to do that without crippling our economy and putting millions out of work. That kind of emissions cut would require the equivalent of parking every car, truck, airplane, bus and train in the country – permanently – or shutting down every factory and non-nuclear power plant.

(And can you imagine the screaming if civil service Hogs were FORCED OFF grossly polluting airplanes- so no more holidays in the sun for them! And got charged heavy taxes for the privilege of ripping up the environment on their gas guzzling ATV`s and ski-doos! Or were forbidden to use those riding lawn mowers that spew more carbon in five minutes than a modern car on the highway running thirty minutes- how could Sunshine List Hogs maintain their 3 or 5 or 10 acre estates without those piggy machines? Or the Hog rage on display if they then had to ride over crowded public transit to work just like ordinary peasants?)

Not gonna happen. But fear not, the Paris accord gives the UN no power by which to enforce our promised reductions or punish our failure.

So how then can the UN claim adherence to Paris will keep global temperatures from rising more than 1.5°C? The same way Al Capone could claim he made a meagre middle-class income while pocketing millions annually from bootleg liquor: creative accounting.

As Tim Kruger of Oxford University’s geo-engineering program pointed out in London’s Guardian paper in April 2016, all of the models that show the Paris accord stopping climate change are based on “massive deployment” of biomass energy coupled with technology to capture the carbon dioxide that will be created and “sequestering” it in the ground.

But the technology for neither of those – neither mass energy generation from biomass (burning wood chips, seaweed, cornstalks, etc.) nor mass carbon sequestration – exists yet on a large enough scale. And there is no evidence on the horizon it is coming, either.

(With the added bonus that nobody really knows if carbon sequestering underground will work in the long term! Who says it wont cost more to pump carbon dioxide into the rocks than we will be saving- since its never been done before on a large scale- and with NO long term studies for effectiveness!)

Furthermore, biomass burning to create electricity produces about one-quarter more carbon dioxide and vastly more aerial solids than burning coal. So it is entirely possible that if the Paris accord is applied before the technology exists to use biomass more cleanly, adhering to Paris will actually make climate change worse.

(Ontari-owe LIE-berals have already converted a coal burning electric generating station in the Thunder Bay area to burn `biomass` instead. Too bad there is NO North American supplier and LIE-berals have arranged to ship biomass in from Europe- with a HUGE carbon foot print and with electricity from that plant now costing TWENTY FIVE TIMES MORE than for natural gas fired plants! But LIE-berals DID save SIXTY civil service Hog jobs and that is the whole point- to produce MORE Hog gravy and screw the tax payers and the dirty air! LIE-berals assure us that they are looking for a North American supplier of biomass- which translates into some LIE-beral friend getting a GREAT LONG TERM DEAL at our expense!)

(A year after Our idiot Boy Justin was elected- our resident airhead David Suzuki was moved to call Trudope rude names for being a fake environmentalist as Our idiot Boy had taken NO action on environment in his first year in office!)


As Kruger pointed out, “There is a distinct lack of evidence to determine whether (biomass and carbon capture) are technically feasible, economically affordable, environmentally benign, socially acceptable and politically viable.” Yet the whole of the Paris accord is based on these magic-wand technologies appearing in the next decade or two on such a grand scale that they can save the planet.

(Certainly the pubic is vastly hostile to incineration of garbage- which is basically what biomass is- all sorts of scrap paper, packing crates and anything else burnable stuffed into a furnace to boil water and spin turbines and such burning has a habit of producing dioxin and other lethally dangerous chemicals so nobody wants to live down wind from a plant! And the REPEATED failures of the new Durham Region incinerator facility at the south end of Courtice Rd suggest LIE-berals are handing out FAKE NEWS about biomass! And public perception of the facility is NOT being helped by the number of secret `in camera` meetings between govt and facility builders and operators to discuss the unacceptable levels of pollution belching out the stacks- WAY BEYOND claimed design parameters!
In its first couple of years operation the plant has been repeatedly partially or fully shut down for “upgrades” in an effort to make it perform according to the advertising!)

Since Paris is a largely toothless, rhetorical symbol – and not a legally binding treaty – might it have been wiser for Trump and the U.S. to take the easy way; play the Paris game and pretend to be committed the way the Chinese are?

Maybe. I commend the U.S. president for his honesty and political courage in dumping the pretentious, moralistic, socialist document.

The hysterical reaction to Trump’s move, though, shows how much more importance “progressives” place on appearances over of results. Former U.S. President Barack Obama even popped his retired head up to insist his successor had “turned his back on the future.”

(Our idiot Boy Justin has shown us what Paris Accord is really about- as he has ALREADY committed us to buying two billion dollars worth of carbon credits- nebulous things that Paris Accord socialists DEMAND that all western nations purchase from the third world as the price of pollution- with NO way to actually measure the benefit of carbon credits! In fact- there is ample evidence that buying carbon credits will worsen our air as the billions of dollars being transferred will allow for MORE pollution and larger carbon footprints in unregulated third world countries!)

Oh, please, the Paris accord was such a sham that U.S. withdrawal will do nothing to rescue or destroy Earth.

(LIE-berals are far more interested in slamming Trump and all the values he represents than they are in cleaning the environment! LIE-berals are focused on clinging to power at any price- simply because they are so lost in their arrogance they believe they ARE ENTITLED to lead!)
 

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The great Canadian climate delusion




Thomas Homer-Dixon is a CIGI chair at the Balsillie School of International Affairs and professor in the faculty of environment at the University of Waterloo.
Yonatan Strauch is a doctoral candidate in the school of environment, resources and sustainability at the University of Waterloo.
Is Canada going to be the first country to break apart over the issue of climate change? That may seem like a hyperbolic question. But the fissures in our federation over climate and energy policy are now extraordinarily deep, and there’s little sign that they’ll close soon. The federal Liberal decision to buy the Trans Mountain pipeline project will likely just widen them. Worse, some provincial politicians – especially United Conservative Party Leader Jason Kenney in Alberta – are now exploiting these fissures for political gain.


It’s not entirely about climate change, of course. Many people in British Columbia oppose the Trans Mountain pipeline because of the risk of ruptures along the pipeline’s route or of bitumen spills from tankers in coastal waters. Many Indigenous peoples don’t want the pipeline crossing their lands. But most opponents also find the project’s implications for global warming to be a deal breaker in and of itself.
For these opponents, further massive investment in the extraction and export of some of the most carbon-intensive fossil fuel on Earth is nonsensical – idiotic, even. In a dangerously warming world, we should be investing in a clean-energy future, not entrenching Canada more deeply in the economic past.



More: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opin...he-first-country-to-break-apart-over-climate/
 

spilledthebeer

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Do tell: What exactly are false facts?



Does anyone care?


False facts are things that LIE-berals tell us- such as their policy on environmental issues, their plans for creating jobs, and their schemes for balancing the books and driving the nation into bankruptcy!

 

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As Trans Mountain changes hands, Coldwater couple not sure who will clean up lingering oil spill | CBC News

here is what happens when this pipeline leaks.

nothing.

This is a first nation that has had their land contaminated and have not and will not ever get it cleaned up.

They are now expected to approve an expansion through their lands.

The pipeline biz is all lies and deception.

50 years of leaking and only 40 dump trucks of soil needs remediation?

In 50 years how many dump trucks of shit have you flushed?

And the National Center for Health Statistics says the average weight for an adult male in the United States is 189.8 pounds. That means the average man produces 360 pounds of poop a year... almost one whole pound a day. So, using your 70 years average, that would be around 25,200 pounds!!!
 

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As Trans Mountain changes hands, Coldwater couple not sure who will clean up lingering oil spill | CBC News

here is what happens when this pipeline leaks.

nothing.

This is a first nation that has had their land contaminated and have not and will not ever get it cleaned up.

They are now expected to approve an expansion through their lands.

The pipeline biz is all lies and deception.


Pretty hard to clean it up if they don't allow access to the site, and they won't allow access until they receive assurances and compensation.

In an email statement, Kinder Morgan said "our interests are both to remediate and to ensure Ms. Antoine is treated fairly. We have provided some compensation and will provide further reasonable and supportable compensation as necessary."
Remediation work has also been stalled by a conflict over road access to the site.
Kinder Morgan says it hasn't received permission to access the site, while the Coldwater Band, along with Antoine and Joe, say the delay is linked to the company pushing for a specific kind of legal clearance to the site under the Indian Act, which the band sees as an overstep.

Ultimately, Antoine said, all she wants is assurance that her water and soil are safe, to be fairly compensated, and to make sure she and her family don't get lost in the shuffle as the pipeline changes hands.
"My fear is they're going to say: 'We're not addressing anything until we go through the transition.' … When you're in your 70s, it's not like we have 50 years to wait."

They were already offered a fair compensation for crop loss

As things remain stalled, the couple is losing income they receive from leasing their land for agriculture. And because the remediation work hasn't been done, they're relying on purchased water instead of using the well, which sits just steps away from the pipeline.
Kinder Morgan attempted to settle with the couple last November for $55,131, an amount intended to compensate them for lost income and crops, time spent negotiating and consulting fees.

But had no problem taking incidental cash

Antoine and Joe said they didn't accept the offer because it didn't address a number of their concerns. They have accepted about $7,600 from the company to cover some of their time and travel expenses in early dealings with Kinder Morgan.

They can't be to worried about the spill if they are not allowing KM in to clean it up, and extorting KM for more money while using the media to blackmail them sounds fair /sarcasm off

By the way Hoid if you read into the article the pipe was repaired the initial spill was cleaned up, monitoring wells and delineation bore holes were set up, and a reclamation plan put into place, access was shut down before remediation could be done in order to get more money.
 

petros

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Gees, I'm honoured.

Take note, over the past couple decades most oil companies have rebranded themselves as energy companies.
 

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The fact is that spills will not be cleaned up.

That is how it works.