Us imposes steel/aluminum tariffs
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He would provide a link if there was one.
In the meantime, his fantasies are what he considers interesting
The cynics of Ontari-owe would like to offer Wynne-bag LIE-berals and Horvath NDPers our congratulations for appearing to run the dirtiest, sleaziest, nastiest, most dishonest and deceitful political campaign ever in the history of Canada!
WE DO NOT BELIEVE Renata Ford- widow of Rob Ford acted alone when she launched her lawsuit against Doug Ford! We believe she was probably either BRIBED or BLACKMAILED to take the action she did!
For one thing it has been FOUR YEARS since Rob Ford died- how is it that she should suddenly NOW chose to take such action TWO DAYS before the election- with humiliated LIE-berals headed for destruction and desperate Horvath NDPers looking at what will probably be their last best and ONLY CHANCE for decades to grab an election win?
Doug Ford has positioned himself as the best money manager of the group- with Horvath and Wynne-bag seeking to dent that armour and how better than using Robs widow? The coincidence is HUGE! And the reek of SLEAZE is STRONG NOW! LIE-beral loving news media - always looking for ways to kick at the Conservative camp- have made much of the Renata accusations- but have been nearly SILENT ABOUT THE TWO DRUNK DRIVING CHARGES SHE FACES!
We KNOW ROB Ford faced various addictions and personal demons and it now seems possible Renata faces much the same trouble? And has this trouble made her vulnerable to coercion and manipulation? What is her financial situation? Has she drunk or gambled or otherwise wasted much of her inheritance? DOES SHE NEED MONEY that she has been promised she can win if she sues and embarrasses Doug Ford- REGARDLESS of the truth of the matter? Or maybe this will never come to court thanks to Renata having done her public best to give Doug Ford a political black eye? Shall we expect all to be forgotten the day AFTER the election? Is this really about money or about a nasty family feud? Or is this VERY SLEAZY political vengeance against Ford and Conservatives?
Renata insists the Fords have mishandled the family Deca label business and cites a drop in the value of that business. But there may be POLITICAL SLEAZE in the details- has the company value dropped since the days of Doug Ford senior because THEY PAID DEATH DUTIES ON THE COMPANY AS REQUIRED BY LAW? Renata also says the value of the private funds built up by Doug Ford senior have been much reduced- and of course death duties would be paid on that as well! Renata says the value of family assets has been reduced by half- and IGNORES the over fifty percent in death duties and taxes the family would have had to pay in order to get their hands on the remaining assets!
Further- Doug Ford has spoken often about the job killing and business killing aspects of LIE-beral tax and spend MADNESS! Are we looking at the REALITY of LIE-beral policy here? That the best way to make a small fortune in business in Ontari-owe is to START WITH A LARGE FORTUNE AND LET TIME AND TAXES TAKE THEIR TOLL- as appears to be the case with Ford Deca business!!!!
Cynical citizens of Ontarii-owe have watched LIE-berals blurt out endless waves of lies about ORNGE, E-health, about gas plants, about “balanced budgets” that actually have multi billion dollar holes in them, about budgets and programs that LIE-berals CLAIM would carry a 6 billion dollar deficit but HONEST accounting shows to be DOUBLE that! LIE-berals have boasted of our booming economy that is also building up record debt- both in public govt accounts and in peoples personal lives- to the point we are very near the debt wall!
LIE-berals do not want to talk about the people who are struggling to keep a roof over their heads with housing prices getting so insane that LIE-berals have chosen to cripple the entire industry with new laws and lending rules! LIE-berals have boasted to disgusted citizens about how much money they can save with COSTLY SMART METERS that are so clever that some brands can accidentally burn your house down and all of which allow LIE-berals to charge EXTRA for “time of use electricity which saves NO MONEY AT ALL- but actually ADDS EXTRA COSTS! LIE-berals have boasted of how they are saving our environment by killing off the 2 coal fired electrical generation plants left in Ontari-owe- and then they went off and used OUR MONEY to buy into a Yankee power generator that is STILL USING COAL- and which comes with a major pollution lawsuit and vast new costs for cleaning up the mess- United States! LIE-berals boast of how they made our air cleaner with their mouldy green energy scam but IGNORE the 140 coal fired plants- most of which were upwind of Ontari-owe- that Yankees recently closed!
After such a barrage of shameless distortions of the truth and FAILED “stretch goals” like the fabled 15 percent reduction in auto insurance that came with a fifty percent reduction in accident benefits- why then should we not believe that EVERYTHING Renata Ford says about Doug Ford is either motivated by personal demons and a struggle with addiction or motivated by bribery from politicians who desire to hurt Ford any way they can and damn the consequences- because their careers are over anyway!
Given the political oblivion that the current crop of Ontari-owe LIE-berals are marching into it is hard to see what would stop them from being so sleazy- its not like they now have any political career or sweet public image to tarnish! LIE-berals can be as sleazy as they like without consequences and slink into oblivion on June 8!
And what of Horvath? I suggest this is also her LAST RODEO! This is her last, best chance to win and if Ford beats her then she is gone into the history books as well- after 3 failed elections- NDPers would be looking for a new leader!
The NDP has taken a public relations battering during this election! But they have not faced unproven accusations from a probable drunk- rather- the NDP have faced serious accusations accompanied in many cases by detailed photographs! The full range of LUNATIC NDP values has been on public display as they sneer at cops, support LIE-berals in rigging the legal system to protect drunken thieves like Coulton Boushie, insult “brainwashed” Cdn soldiers who fought against Hitler, call Cdn soldiers in Afghanistan “war criminals”, rage against Israel for daring to defend itself against terrorists, support Muslim extremists, and offer unlimited “sanctuary to the hordes of illegals coming here at the invitation of Our idiot Boy Justin- in spite of the profound misgivings of ordinary Cdns who want the mass trespassing event HALTED and the illegals sent home!
Just how desperate are the enemies of Doug Ford? Would they stoop to bribing or even quietly black mailing reported two time drunk driver Renata Ford as a weapon? Based on what has come before there is NO reason NOT to believe this Renata Ford attack is nothing more than a political STUNT that will quickly fade away after the election!
With suitable legal “guidance” Renata can make her accusations freely WITHOUT ever having to prove a thing- and then drop the whole matter and walk away later without even having to say sorry!
Renata Ford allegations appear to me to be nothing but a record setting sleaze attack of exactly the sort we saw made against Patrick Brown! Let us recall that two women- one of whom was a long time pal of a CTV reporter- went to the news media office and made ANONYMOUS ACCUSATIONS against Brown- which CTV reported with breathless excitement!
The accusations against Brown were so successful that it took him out of the election and probably killed his political career- WITHOUT anybody having to actually PROVE a damned thing against him! Oh sure- he can take the 2 women to court and sue but it will cost $100 grand at least- and they HAVE NO MONEY so Brown will win nothing! And how fast will the courts work on what LIE-beral judges will see as a low priority affair- when in summer 2017- they released SEVEN accused KILLERS simply for lack of court space!
Shall we cynics not find it easy to picture Wynne-bag watching her tv and gloating as Brown walks away from the tv cameras after admitting his political career is now just as dead as that of most LIE-berals?
And what of Horvath? Surely she has been stung by all the accusation about how racist, irrational and irresponsible her party is and always will be- would it not do her heart good to see Doug Ford dragged into a little dirt as well? Especially as another NDP defeat will spell the end of Horvath political aspirations!
I suggest the timing of the Renata Ford attack is so sleazy and so dishonest and so cynical that both NDPers and LIE-berals should be regarded as POLITICAL POISON!
NONE of them- neither LIE-berals nor NDPers should ever be allowed NEAR a member of the legislature- much less be permitted to BECOME a member!!!!!
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Trump invokes War of 1812 in testy call with Trudeau over tariffs
President Donald Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had a testy phone call on May 25 over new tariffs imposed by the Trump administration targeting steel and aluminum imports coming from Canada, including one moment during the conversation in which Trump made an erroneous historical reference, sources familiar with the discussion told CNN. According to the sources, Trudeau pressed Trump on how he could justify the tariffs as a "national security" issue. In response, Trump quipped to Trudeau, "Didn't you guys burn down the White House?" referring to the War of 1812.
The problem with Trump's comments to Trudeau is that British troops burned down the White House during the War of 1812. Historians note the British attack on Washington was in retaliation for the American attack on York, Ontario, in territory that eventually became Canada, which was then a British colony.
Trump invokes War of 1812 in testy call with Trudeau over tariffs
Not only is Trump insane but he is a phuking idiot to boot.
President Donald Trump and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau had a testy phone call on May 25 over new tariffs imposed by the Trump administration targeting steel and aluminum imports coming from Canada, including one moment during the conversation in which Trump made an erroneous historical reference, sources familiar with the discussion told CNN. According to the sources, Trudeau pressed Trump on how he could justify the tariffs as a "national security" issue. In response, Trump quipped to Trudeau, "Didn't you guys burn down the White House?" referring to the War of 1812.
The problem with Trump's comments to Trudeau is that British troops burned down the White House during the War of 1812. Historians note the British attack on Washington was in retaliation for the American attack on York, Ontario, in territory that eventually became Canada, which was then a British colony.
Trump invokes War of 1812 in testy call with Trudeau over tariffs
Not only is Trump insane but he is a phuking idiot to boot.
Perhaps Canada should just unilaterally drop all tariffs. Not only would this benefit consumers, but it would also allow Canadian businesses to buy the best machines and equipment from around the world.
Good idea. ;-)
Wanna bet that his supporters believe him??
He is not revising history........he doesn't know it He confabulates.
I was angry at Trump in the last few days. But now that I'm calmer and have given it more thought, the US steel tariffs will hurt US industry more than anyone else. With that in mind, the best response would be for our own government to not respond with counter-tariffs and instead just watch in bewilderment.
I agree in principle. Not reacting to him is usually wisest. Why encourage the flame thrower.?? He already says he will counter reactive responses. Totally predictable. He plays the last man standing game. He doesn't carfe how many and who are hurts in the process. It's all about the "win" in his pathos filled " mind."
It might be too subtle for the bloke.
We could use that to our advantage. Raise tariffs against US nicotine, alcohol, and animal products and byproducts in the hope that Trump react in kind. Like clockwork, he probably would which in turn would raise the price of tobacco, alcohol, and high-cholesterol products which could turn out well. It makes us look tough to our electorate and allows Canada to direct the damage of a trade war to the least desirable industries anyway.
You being an lifelong expert on both I suppose we will beieve you.
Even trudOWE isn't that stupid.