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Twin_Moose

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Nothing to do with stuck in idle, but I didn't want to start a new thread with this interesting bit of news.


Kahnawake's controversial 'marry out, get out' policy violates Charter, judge rules

Quebec Superior Court has struck down part of a controversial membership law in Kahnawake, Que., saying it violates Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
Justice Thomas Davis determined the rule — which requires residents of the Mohawk reserve to move away if they marry a non-Indigenous person, as well as suspending their other membership entitlements — discriminatory based on social status.
"It's basically an attack on the basic dignity of everybody," said lawyer Julius Grey, who represented the 16 plaintiffs.
In the 48-page judgment, Davis said the policy was based on "stereotypical beliefs" about mixed marriage, that "non-native spouses will use the resources and land of the band in a way that is detrimental to it and that will have a negative impact on the ability of the band to protect its culture and its land."
But, Grey pointed out, the judge was not unsympathetic to the other side and acknowledged the challenges faced in the community just south of Montreal. He invited the two parties to reconcile and try to come to an agreement.
Out in the OpenThe struggle to belong under Kahnawake community's 'Marry Out, Get Out' rule
In a statement, the Mohawk Council of Kahnawake (MCK) said its legal team is reviewing the judgment, which came down Monday, and will present a report to the chief and council on Thursday.
"Obviously, we maintain the position that matters that are so integral to our identity have no business in outside courts," stated Grand Chief Joe Norton.
"However, a decision on the case has been rendered. We are now taking the time to analyze the decision and will inform the community further in the coming days."
Saga going on for decades
Joe Delaronde, spokesperson for the MCK, said many people in the community are also upset the issue went to an outside court, when they have voiced their opinion "loud and clear" on the policy for almost 40 years.
"No one says you can't marry who you want. All it says is if you do that, you can't live on this territory," he said.
"For this community, they look at it as a matter of survival, the only place where we can be us. And that's where it comes from."
The so-called "marry out, get out" policy began as a moratorium, first passed in 1981. It has officially been on the band council's books since 1984, but has rarely been enforced.
The membership law sets criteria for who is considered to be a member of the First Nation and determines which non-members can become residents. The current version was enacted in 2003.
In 2010, the band council began sending out eviction letters. Some plaintiffs in the lawsuit claim they were cut off from access to services in Kahnawake because their partner is not Indigenous.
Others say they were the targets of violent protests or shaming on social media, and that mixed-race children were referred to as "half breeds" and were denied funding to go to school.

Anyone think that this FN privilege case goes to the Supreme Court

Mohawk's are prejudice and racist.
 

Hoid

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Oh look white nationalist climate change deniers want to discuss Indians. I wonder what they'll say?
 

Decapoda

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Oh look white nationalist climate change deniers want to discuss Indians. I wonder what they'll say?

Oh, come on. You know what they'll say...same thing they always say...when is that hemorrHoid going to grow a brain and come up with something....anything relevant and cohesive?? Sigh...never.



Climate change is real...no one is denying.

 

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Listening to a CTV interview with Kevin Hart - AFN Manitoba Regional Chief as he tells the host that FN languages should be recognized as official languages. Earlier, Percy Bellegarde told his audience at the FN conference on whatever that every single FN language needs to be funded, promoted and accepted as official. :roll:
 

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Of course it should being First Canadians after all, French shouldn't even be a national language lost the war and all. I think Ukrainian should be a national language opened the West up to farming and setting the framework for managing the land. :)
 

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Listening to a CTV interview with Kevin Hart - AFN Manitoba Regional Chief as he tells the host that FN languages should be recognized as official languages. Earlier, Percy Bellegarde told his audience at the FN conference on whatever that every single FN language needs to be funded, promoted and accepted as official. :roll:

What a great way to start tribal wars. Should the Dene kick out the Cree on their land?
 
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Mowich

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That is a VERY old story going back 200++ years.

Well it is a good thing then that it finally went to court. And better yet that the plaintiffs got the ruling they wanted.

It appears that FNs are demanding marijuana legislation be put on idle until they can get together and have a big powwow with the government.
 

Danbones

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Well, the nice thing about being sovereign is that you get to do what you want to do inside of your own borders.
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just like we do here in Canada...sort of
 

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Well it is a good thing then that it finally went to court. And better yet that the plaintiffs got the ruling they wanted.

It appears that FNs are demanding marijuana legislation be put on idle until they can get together and have a big powwow with the government.

I've actually known someone in that situation in Kahnawake some years ago. It is out-and-out discrimination to measure the amount of "Indian blood" to determine your fitness to live somewhere. It is a ghastly practise that does not belong in the 21st century. If ANYONE else said that you are not _______ enough to live in their neighbourhood, you'd be pilloried, charged, sued.
The First Nations have a special status but it sure as hell is not that special.


Marijuana was brought from the Old World by early settlers, to cultivate to make rope and fabric. They better not try the "traditional medicine" shtick to corner the legal pot market.
 

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I know a non native someone who was just ejected, not just from the reserve, but from the relationship too, and this person is an absolute deadbeat who was just sucking up for the free ride. Other than dealing crappy dope to kids on the rez, he was NOT capable of working, so now he is on welfare, which is cutting into his drinking time.

No One has any sympathy for this creep, and everyone realizes you can't let dead WHITE nards like that into native life at all - they are almost as bad a bunch of abusers as pedophile priests.
 

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'Short-sighted' new Kahnawake law excludes Mohawks adopting non-indigenous children | CBC News

I know a non native someone who was just ejected, not just from the reserve, but from the relationship too, and this person is an absolute deadbeat who was just sucking up for the free ride. Other than dealing crappy dope to kids on the rez, he was NOT capable of working, so now he is on welfare, which is cutting into his drinking time.

No One has any sympathy for this creep, and everyone realizes you can't let dead WHITE nards like that into native life at all - they are almost as bad a bunch of abusers as pedophile priests.

Meanwhile............


Waneek Horn-Miller is a Kahnawake Mohawk, a former Olympic athlete and an avid human rights activist. She is fighting for her right to live in her community with her non-indigenous partner, Keith Morgan (left), and two children. (Waneek Horn-Miller)

 

Johnnny

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I don't get it. Are people against the judges ruling about the "marry out get out" thing? I'm kinda seeing a native girl off and on at the moment and some of you see me as destroying her culture by dating her?