Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?

[Vbeacher]

I like the idea of electric cars. But I can't help wondering what happens with an EMP. EMPs can come from the earth being hit by a burst of solar radiation. Big ones happen about once a century so we're due. There is a lot of very scientific talk about what an EMP would do to us, ranging from minor inconvenience to the end of civilization.

There seems little doubt they would short-circuit the electrical grid. Some say the power wouldn't come up for months as all the transformers would need to be replaced - a slow and arduous task. Some say it could be brought back up in a day or two.

Cars and all other electrical devices would be impacted because their connections would/could be fried. Older cars are safer. The more electronic the car, the less likely it would work. Obviously an electric car won't. No cars or trucks, no food comes into the cities. No food comes into the cities, mass starvation and collapse of civilization ensues.

This is not conspiracy theory stuff. This is presidential commission findings.

 

[pgs]

I like the idea of electric cars. But I can't help wondering what happens with an EMP. EMPs can come from the earth being hit by a burst of solar radiation. Big ones happen about once a century so we're due. There is a lot of very scientific talk about what an EMP would do to us, ranging from minor inconvenience to the end of civilization.

There seems little doubt they would short-circuit the electrical grid. Some say the power wouldn't come up for months as all the transformers would need to be replaced - a slow and arduous task. Some say it could be brought back up in a day or two.

Cars and all other electrical devices would be impacted because their connections would/could be fried. Older cars are safer. The more electronic the car, the less likely it would work. Obviously an electric car won't. No cars or trucks, no food comes into the cities. No food comes into the cities, mass starvation and collapse of civilization ensues.

This is not conspiracy theory stuff. This is presidential commission findings.

There goes all my frozen food .

 

[Hoid]

I like the idea of electric cars. But I can't help wondering what happens with an EMP. EMPs can come from the earth being hit by a burst of solar radiation. Big ones happen about once a century so we're due. There is a lot of very scientific talk about what an EMP would do to us, ranging from minor inconvenience to the end of civilization.

There seems little doubt they would short-circuit the electrical grid. Some say the power wouldn't come up for months as all the transformers would need to be replaced - a slow and arduous task. Some say it could be brought back up in a day or two.

Cars and all other electrical devices would be impacted because their connections would/could be fried. Older cars are safer. The more electronic the car, the less likely it would work. Obviously an electric car won't. No cars or trucks, no food comes into the cities. No food comes into the cities, mass starvation and collapse of civilization ensues.

This is not conspiracy theory stuff. This is presidential commission findings.

EMP will take out any car if its powerful enough.

If it is powerful enough you are close enough to the source of the EMP to make it moot anyway.

(btw EMP is what precedes a nuclear explosion. Atmospheric EMP is not very strong at all)

 

[petros]

No. Not any car. Good old points and condenser ignitions and those with magnetos. There are millions of vehicles in Nor Am that will fire up right after an EMP or CME.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

EMP will take out any car if its powerful enough.

If it is powerful enough you are close enough to the source of the EMP to make it moot anyway.

(btw EMP is what precedes a nuclear explosion. Atmospheric EMP is not very strong at all)

I assume she is talking about the solar storms which hit us now and again. There are ones who hit about once a century that are that powerful. I believe last one was in the 1800s so we are indeed due.

 

[captain morgan]

No. Not any car. Good old points and condenser ignitions and those with magnetos. There are millions of vehicles in Nor Am that will fire up right after an EMP or CME.

That old carburetored muscle car you have will still be out hauling ass

 

[petros]

I have couple. Currently MSD electronic ignitions but that's only a 1/2hr swap out.

 

[captain morgan]

Yes sir... Now, only if you had your old tube TV, you'd be stylin'

 

[DaSleeper]

I assume she is talking about the solar storms which hit us now and again. There are ones who hit about once a century that are that powerful. I believe last one was in the 1800s so we are indeed due.

This EMP stuff you guys were talking about, reminded me of something strange that happened years ago, when I was about ten years old while in the old farm truck getting close to Moonbeam about 15 miles away.
The pick-up suddenly stopped on the highway near a house and even the starter wouldn't work...
My brother didn't seem surprised at all, and he told me, let's go see George Alig in the house....
We stopped and my brother had a coffee and a chat with the man and when we got back in the truck, it started on first try...
That's when my brother told me...."That man is some kind of gadget inventor, and he can stop any vehicle driving close to his house"
Maybe he had some kind of EMP generator?

 

[Hoid]

Here is a look at EMP.

If you are close enough to have your car disabled by EMP you are probably going to die from radiation poisoning at the very least.

SO the theory that electric cars are somehow more prone to EMP damage than as gassers is not very sound at all.


All vehicles within certain ranges are going to be disabled.


Most aircraft as well. While certain military aircraft were hardened to defeat EMP thise measures have largely been abandoned.

The CP140 - for instance - built in the 1970s had EMP hardening of certain vital computer functions via what is referred to as core memory which was not zeroized by the blast. These memories could not be updated to keep pace with technology and have largely been superseded.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

For the resident idiot. EMP can be generated by the sun ... not just nuclear blasts. If somebody can pass this on to him since he has most of the sane people here on ignore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_2012

 

[DaSleeper]

For the resident idiot. EMP can be generated by the sun ... not just nuclear blasts. If somebody can pass this on to him since he has most of the sane people here on ignore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_2012

Yes....he's realy an idiot, and not all emp generators are nuclear device or generate harmful radiation

https://www.wikihow.com/Build-an-EMP-Generator

 

[petros]

Here is a look at EMP.

If you are close enough to have your car disabled by EMP you are probably going to die from radiation poisoning at the very least.

SO the theory that electric cars are somehow more prone to EMP damage than as gassers is not very sound at all.


All vehicles within certain ranges are going to be disabled.


Most aircraft as well. While certain military aircraft were hardened to defeat EMP thise measures have largely been abandoned.

The CP140 - for instance - built in the 1970s had EMP hardening of certain vital computer functions via what is referred to as core memory which was not zeroized by the blast. These memories could not be updated to keep pace with technology and have largely been superseded.

The Rainbow Bombs. After the first test it was too much of a "holy f-ck" moment and never tried again since. It's about the only nuclear treaty that has stood up by all.

There are no radiation issues.

These days there are warheads that do non-nuclear EMPs.

 

[JLM]

Oil works good, we have lots of it- time to put this other nonsense aside!

 

[Bar Sinister]

No. Not any car. Good old points and condenser ignitions and those with magnetos. There are millions of vehicles in Nor Am that will fire up right after an EMP or CME.

EMP will take out any car with computerized components, so about every car built since 1980. But EMP is a rather stupid thing to worry about given that it would probably only occur during an all out nuclear war, or if it was caused by a solar flare, cars wouldn't be the only thing to worry about. The entire electrical grid would be affected, meaning that all sources of fuel would be in short supply, including gasoline, which requires electricity to run the gas pumps and to refine in the first place.

 

[pgs]

EMP will take out any car with computerized components, so about every car built since 1980. But EMP is a rather stupid thing to worry about given that it would probably only occur during an all out nuclear war, or if it was caused by a solar flare, cars wouldn't be the only thing to worry about. The entire electrical grid would be affected, meaning that all sources of fuel would be in short supply, including gasoline, which requires electricity to run the gas pumps and to refine in the first place.

Well good thing there is such a thing as hunters with guns . Someone has to provide food for the citiots .

 

[captain morgan]

Well good thing there is such a thing as hunters with guns . Someone has to provide food for the citiots .

That's where you're wrong bub... Everyone knows that there's a backroom in every grocery store that raises their own livestock and grows their fruits and veggies, so they don't need any fuel or oil or whatnot

Fact

 

[pgs]

That's where you're wrong bub... Everyone knows that there's a backroom in every grocery store that raises their own livestock and grows their fruits and veggies, so they don't need any fuel or oil or whatnot

Fact

I forgot about that .

 

[Bar Sinister]

Well good thing there is such a thing as hunters with guns . Someone has to provide food for the citiots .

Last time I checked there was no need for anyone to hunt food for me or anyone else in Canada. EMP is just scare-mongering.

 

[Gilgamesh]

According to the OBDII on my truck I produce give or take 16oz per mile at 38mph hwy/city combined.


All these buses saved was 4400t?

Only fools and con artists want to reduce CO2.

There sure are a lot of 'em.