Gerald Stanley Not Guilty

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No. Justice would be the cops coming by and saying "Dead Injun? No problem. You're gonna have to call somebody to get that hauled away, though."

Garbage like this only contributes to the problem. No one thinks like this.

Certainly charging a man who shot somebody to death is ridiculous. That's not a crime.

I've given this quite a bit of thought while watching this case. I've tried to put myself in the shoes of Boushie's family and wonder how I would have felt and how I would have handled it. As the case unfolded I have thought how I would have been furious if Stanley got off free, how can someone kill someone else with a gun, even accidentally, and not face any repercussions. If my kid had been shot in the head and the guy who shot him didn't face a penalty I would be devastated and angry at a system that doesn't hold someone accountable.

Having said that, when I heard the testimony as a parent, if I would have known my kid was acting the way these kids were, robbing a liquor store the night before, driving around the next day blackout drunk and stealing cars, with a loaded gun in the vehicle,etc. I would have been angry and frustrated at the dangerous and foolish actions of my kid, and the failure of myself as a negligent parent who didn't see what was going on for whatever reason and try to take action to avoid potential catastrophe. I would have asked myself how I went so wrong. I think I would have been as hard on myself as I would be on a system that let my kid down. I think I would have felt like I let my kid down, I would have felt guilt for that as a parent.

Its a bad deal all around, and there's a lot of blame to share, I think blaming it on skin colour or race is lazy and only serves to avoid facing truth and self-reconciliation.
 

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Garbage like this only contributes to the problem. No one thinks like this.
That's why he needs to get it hauled away. Redskin corpses in the yard are unsightly.



I've given this quite a bit of thought while watching this case. I've tried to put myself in the shoes of Boushie's family and wonder how I would have felt and how I would have handled it. A the case unfolded I have thought how I would have been furious if Stanley got off free, how can someone kill someone else with a gun, even accidentally, and not face any repercussions. If my kid had been shot in the head and the guy who shot him didn't face a penalty I would be devastated and angry at a system that doesn't hold someone accountable.

Having said that, when I heard the testimony as a parent, if I would have known my kid was acting the way these kids were, robbing a liquor store the night before, driving around the next day blackout drunk and stealing cars, with a loaded gun in the vehicle,etc. I would have been angry and frustrated at the dangerous and foolish actions of my kid, and the failure of myself as a negligent parent. I would have asked myself how I went so wrong. I think I would have been as hard on myself as I would be on a system that let my kid down. I think I would have felt like I let my kid down, I would have felt guilt for that as a parent.

Its a bad deal all around, and there's a lot of blame to share, I think blaming it on skin colour or race is lazy and only serves to avoid facing truth and self-reconciliation.
Well, as I said, Boushie's dead and Stanley's free, so what's the problem? I mean, aside from the fact that Stanley was unjustly required to pay for a lawyer, because homicide shouldn't be a crime when the deader's a redskin. Well, that and the outrage of redskins expressing their opinions. See, this is what happens when you close down the residential schools.

I don't know if you saw all the media interviews with various native leaders and their apologists but many of them were demanding a jury with natives on it. Now that is clearly rascist.

That's true. Only all-white juries can render justice, just like in Alabama in the 1940s.
 

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Colten Boushie’s family says farmer trying to ’exploit’ Indigenous man’s death
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Gerald Stanley enters Battleford Court of Queen's Bench in his murder trial of the shooting death of Colten Boushie (inset) in Battleford, Sask., in this February 2, 2018 file photo.(Saskatoon StarPhoenix/Liam Richards)
When Gerald Stanley testified in a Saskatchewan court last month he told a jury his version of what happened on the summer day in 2016 when Colten Boushie, a young Indigenous man, was fatally shot.
People heard Stanley’s story in court or followed it across Canada in news reports.
Boushie’s cousin, Jade Tootoosis, says the 22-year-old from Red Pheasant First Nation will never get that same opportunity.
Tootoosis says she was disgusted to learn that the law firm representing Stanley has been reaching out to different publishing companies.
“It feels like he is further exploiting the death by trying to make a profit of it,” Tootoosis said in an interview.
Boushie died after being shot in the back of the head as he sat in an SUV on the farm near Biggar.
Stanley was acquitted of second-degree murder after testifying that the gun went off accidentally.
The case was filled with racial tension and the verdict sparked rallies across the country.
Boushie’s family members have found support in each other and people across the country as they try to move forward and advocate for changes to the justice system, Tootoosis said.
When they heard that publishing companies had been contacted on Stanley’s behalf they were appalled because “the entire court process gave Gerald Stanley the full platform,” she said.
“He is alive here to be able to tell his story and he did. That was what the court process was about,” she said.
“I just can barely comprehend this individual and his motives and what he is trying to accomplish or achieve. It’s just upsetting.”
Chief Bobby Cameron of the Federation of Sovereign Indigenous Nations, which represents 74 First Nations in Saskatchewan, said it was “absolutely chaotic for (Stanley) to think, ‘I’m going sell a book, I’m going to publish a book’.”
“Give your head a shake Gerald,” Cameron said.
Any publisher considering the option should recognize there would be significant backlash, he added.
Toronto-based publisher Between The Lines (BTL) released a statement on Thursday indicating it had rejected a request for a meeting with Stanley’s legal team and encouraged other publishers to do the same.
“To publish, promote, and market Mr. Stanley’s side of the story would only contribute to the injustices experienced by the Boushie family and all Indigenous people,” the statement said.
An updated statement added the law firm representing Stanley had requested to speak with the publisher’s legal counsel.
Lawyer Scott Spencer confirmed his office did make inquiries on Stanley’s behalf because “Gerry just wants to see the public record set straight.”
Spencer said Stanley is not seeking a book deal.
Boushie’s family doesn’t think they would have any power to stop a publisher if one took Stanley up on the offer.
Tootoosis is encouraging publishers to consider which voices they elevate, noting that in Canada’s history Indigenous voices have been silenced and overlooked.
“Colten isn’t here to share his side of the story,” she said.
“Instead of creating space for this man who took a life, whose actions took a life, why not create more space for Indigenous people to share our side of the story about colonialism and the implications within our society.”
Colten Boushie
 

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That's why he needs to get it hauled away. Redskin corpses in the yard are unsightly.




Well, as I said, Boushie's dead and Stanley's free, so what's the problem? I mean, aside from the fact that Stanley was unjustly required to pay for a lawyer, because homicide shouldn't be a crime when the deader's a redskin. Well, that and the outrage of redskins expressing their opinions. See, this is what happens when you close down the residential schools.



That's true. Only all-white juries can render justice, just like in Alabama in the 1940s.

What makes you think the jury was all white?
 

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The underlying question here relates to how many folks were called for jury duty and judge the demographics that way.

As has been discussed already, over 700 were called for jury duty on a basis of random selection and a fraction of that actually showed
 

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The underlying question here relates to how many folks were called for jury duty and judge the demographics that way.

As has been discussed already, over 700 were called for jury duty on a basis of random selection and a fraction of that actually showed

Absolutely agree with you or of the 200 that showed up for jury selection almost 1/3 asked to be let off due to work or conflict of interest, and then cry racism is ridiculous IMO
 

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They were heard making racist statements and we're rejected from the jury and cried racism.

Racism is a two way street and in SK the Injun side of the street has two lanes.
 

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Absolutely agree with you or of the 200 that showed up for jury selection almost 1/3 asked to be let off due to work or conflict of interest, and then cry racism is ridiculous IMO

It's awfully difficult to suggest impartiality of the jury when so many disqualified themselves from the get-go

They were heard making racist statements and we're rejected from the jury and cried racism.

Racism is a two way street and in SK the Injun side of the street has two lanes.

Society is programmed to equate racism with exclusively Caucasians acting in a discriminatory manner.

Clearly this is a myth
 
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Captain said:
Society is programmed to equate racism with exclusively Caucasians acting in a discriminatory manner.

Clearly this is a myth

A massive myth.

With Arabs, Asians, S. Asians, Latinos pouring into SK more the race card is useless to Natives now.

The jury pool was far from being just red and white.
 

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A massive myth.

With Arabs, Asians, S. Asians, Latinos pouring into SK more the race card is useless to Natives now.

The jury pool was far from being just red and white.

Yes the person that wasn't selected for jury duty that made the statement to the newspaper said there was a few Asians and a black guy that didn't get there name pulled from the hat for jury duty as well.
 

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Well, any allegations of racism would then fall on the lawyers that executed on the selecting and dismissing of jurors.

.... Those damned racist lawyers

It was all random remaining juror names were pulled from a hat I can't remember the exact number of First Canadian names were pulled I want to say 7 and the Defence attorney used his challenges on them so yeah the racist lawyer was looking out for the best interest of his client :)
 

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Well, any allegations of racism would then fall on the lawyers that executed on the selecting and dismissing of jurors.

.... Those damned racist lawyers

The Crown

It was all random remaining juror names were pulled from a hat I can't remember the exact number of First Canadian names were pulled I want to say 7 and the Defence attorney used his challenges on them so yeah the racist lawyer was looking out for the best interest of his client :)

And the Crown used their challenges to out qualified Natives.