Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Hoid

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An illegal firearm purchase (straw purchase) is a federal crime. An illegal firearm purchase can bring a felony conviction sentence of ten years in jail and a fine of up to $250,000.
How many of these transactions are taking place?

An illegal firearm purchase (straw purchase) is a federal crime. An illegal firearm purchase can bring a felony conviction sentence of ten years in jail and a fine of up to $250,000.



Yep. Correct on all counts.

The guys in Quebec.....what were they thinking?
I have gven up even trying to figure it out.
 

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they really aren't guns though.

or rather they aren't really firearms,
 
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they really aren't guns though.

or rather they aren't really firearms,

Firearm” means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm;. – CCC. (Criminal Code of Canada)

And while we are at it:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/weapons-trafficking-edmonton-machine-guns-1.4258821
 

DaSleeper

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Firearm” means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm;. – CCC. (Criminal Code of Canada)

And while we are at it:

Police fear 4 homemade machine-guns may be on streets despite recent bust - Edmonton - CBC News
I like all those Antis' that think they are experts because they can google...
I've owned and handled several different kinds of firearms in my lifetime and I don't consider myself even close to being an expert...
There are few people in this forum who's word I take when it comes to firearms without checking their statements...You and Tecumsehsbone come to mind... and very few more..
 

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There is no way these guns have velocities >500ft/sec. They would not be classified as firearms under the act.
 

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There is no way these guns have velocities >500ft/sec. They would not be classified as firearms under the act.

Depends on what bullets they use.The one I recall used factory ammunition so it will exceed 500fps. Zip guns have been around since at least the 1920s.
 

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There is no way these guns have velocities >500ft/sec. They would not be classied as firearms under the act.

(sigh) You just can't quit yapping about things you don't understand.

Most zip guns fire .22 Long Rifle rimfire ammunition.

The .22 LR has a muzzle velocity of between 1200 and 1640 fps, depending mostly on bullet weight and barrel length, for a muzzle energy of between 100 and 200 foot lbs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.22_Long_Rifle

The machineguns were knock-offs of the MAC 11 suppressed, no less (that means with "silencers"). They fire the standard 9mm Kurz (.380 ACP) round, for a velocity of about 1000 fps from standard ammo, and a muzzle energy of about 200 ft/lbs. The weapon has a cyclic rate of 1200 rounds per minute, and does it quietly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.380_ACP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-11

Cartridge firearms are 19th century technology, submachine guns were developed in World War One..........

The genie is well out of the bottle.

Back in the day (early 70s) a friend's big brother made a couple of .38 Special deringers (single barrel) They worked very well. He was probably 18 at the time. Wound up becoming an MD, a trauma specialist. BTW, at the time, the .38 Special was the standard police round.
 
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In the late 60's I had a double barrel, over and under, legally, and I can assure you it quite deadly since the bullet would penetrate an inch or two in a piece of wood..
I sold it a couple of years later, because it was useless, except as a conversation piece...
 

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my bad. I assumed this was a spring loaded weapon that was firing pellets.
 

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Which when they "fire" rounds at over 500 Feet per second are considered fire arms
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lol...

Air Guns

There are two general types of air guns (also known as BB guns, pellet guns, spring guns or air soft guns):

air (pneumatic system), and
spring (spring-air)
A third type, gas (CO2/nitrogen), even though they are not, strictly speaking, "air guns," are subject to the same rules set out below. For purposes of the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code, air guns can be further divided into four categories:

1. Air guns that are firearms for purposes of both the Firearms Act and the Criminal Code

These are air guns with both a high muzzle velocity (greater than 152.4 metres or 500 feet per second) and a high muzzle energy (greater than 5.7 joules or 4.2 foot-pounds). The "muzzle velocity" is the speed of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, normally expressed in metres per second or feet per second. The "muzzle energy" is the energy of a projectile at the instant it leaves the muzzle of a gun, expressed in joules or foot-pounds. Air guns need to meet both standards to be classified as firearms for purposes of the Firearms Act.

These high-powered air guns are subject to the same licence and registration requirements as a conventional firearm. Owners and users are also required to store, transport, display and handle them safely in accordance with the regulations supporting the Firearms Act.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/air_gun-arme_air-eng.htm
 

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https://www.inquisitr.com/4699318/b...e-but-become-harder-than-diamond-upon-impact/

some really fascinating developments in nanotechnology. They are talking about graphene sheets about the thickness of tin foil that are completely flexible yet become as hard as diamond when exposed to pressure - such as a bullet striking it. Would make great body armor or even heavy armor for tanks. Could also have a potential use in aircraft.
 

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https://www.inquisitr.com/4699318/b...e-but-become-harder-than-diamond-upon-impact/

some really fascinating developments in nanotechnology. They are talking about graphene sheets about the thickness of tin foil that are completely flexible yet become as hard as diamond when exposed to pressure - such as a bullet striking it. Would make great body armor or even heavy armor for tanks. Could also have a potential use in aircraft.

Graphene, graphend, diamond, and lonsdaleite will revolutionize everything, when we advance the art to where they can be produced in mass quantities.

And who knows what allotropes of carbon we still have to discover?
 

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should invent a bullet proof vest, make sure you are not in Canada. bullet proof vests are illegal for private citizens in Canada.
 

DaSleeper

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  • Canada
In Canada, it is legal to wear bulletproof vests in all provinces except for Manitoba, British Columbia, and Alberta. In British Columbia however, you must obtain a government-issued license to use it, as stated by the province’s Armor Control Act. Sometime in the past, a bill was passed in the House of Commons, proposing to make it an offense for anyone to wear a bulletproof vest while attempting to commit an indictable offense. This bill never became law, as it died on the order paper after its first reading.


https://www.expertsecuritytips.com/is-it-legal-to-wear-bulletproof-vests/