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spilledthebeer

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Suzuki, like Angstrom, believes man can destroy the planet. They're also both communists

I will suggest we CAN destroy the planet but i will agree that Suziki and Angstrom are commies! Consider this mess:

Here is an article illustrating LIE-beral values and exposing their fake news on environmental issues! LIE-berals are concerned about GRAVY and NOT about dirty air! With some comments of my own in brackets):

The Paris agreement - a pretentious, moralistic, socialist document

By Lorne Gunter , Edmonton Sun.
First posted: Saturday, June 03, 2017 05:35 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, June 03, 2017 05:49 PM EDT

It’s funny how esteem for the Paris climate accord has grown since it was signed in December 2015.

Back then it was seen as a weak, political document filled with meaningless promises, diplomatic compromises and dubious science. Yet now that U.S. President Donald Trump has withdrawn his country from the accord, you would think the Paris agreement had descended, wrapped in gold, from a shimmering cloud.

The Paris accord isn’t close to being a binding agreement. Nor is it based much on science.

It has no hard-and-fast emission-reduction targets: Governments set their own targets based on what they think they can get away with voters or what they think they have to give up to shut up the environmental lobby- which is huge and extremely well-funded- and its media pals.

For instance, in Paris, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau committed Canada to reducing its emissions to 30% below 2005 levels by 2030.

There is no way for us to do that without crippling our economy and putting millions out of work. That kind of emissions cut would require the equivalent of parking every car, truck, airplane, bus and train in the country – permanently – or shutting down every factory and non-nuclear power plant.

(And can you imagine the screaming if civil service Hogs were FORCED OFF grossly polluting airplanes- so no more holidays in the sun for them! And got charged heavy taxes for the privilege of ripping up the environment on their gas guzzling ATV`s and ski-doos! Or were forbidden to use those riding lawn mowers that spew more carbon in five minutes than a modern car on the highway running thirty minutes- how could Sunshine List Hogs maintain their 3 or 5 or 10 acre estates without those piggy machines? Or the Hog rage on display if they then had to ride over crowded public transit to work just like ordinary peasants?)

Not gonna happen. But fear not, the Paris accord gives the UN no power by which to enforce our promised reductions or punish our failure.

So how then can the UN claim adherence to Paris will keep global temperatures from rising more than 1.5°C? The same way Al Capone could claim he made a meagre middle-class income while pocketing millions annually from bootleg liquor: creative accounting.

As Tim Kruger of Oxford University’s geo-engineering program pointed out in London’s Guardian paper in April 2016, all of the models that show the Paris accord stopping climate change are based on “massive deployment” of biomass energy coupled with technology to capture the carbon dioxide that will be created and “sequestering” it in the ground.

But the technology for neither of those – neither mass energy generation from biomass (burning wood chips, seaweed, cornstalks, etc.) nor mass carbon sequestration – exists yet on a large enough scale. And there is no evidence on the horizon it is coming, either.

(With the added bonus that nobody really knows if carbon sequestering underground will work in the long term! Who says it wont cost more to pump carbon dioxide into the rocks than we will be saving- since its never been done before on a large scale- and with NO long term studies for effectiveness!)

Furthermore, biomass burning to create electricity produces about one-quarter more carbon dioxide and vastly more aerial solids than burning coal. So it is entirely possible that if the Paris accord is applied before the technology exists to use biomass more cleanly, adhering to Paris will actually make climate change worse.

(Ontari-owe LIE-berals have already converted a coal burning electric generating station in the Thunder Bay area to burn `biomass` instead. Too bad there is NO North American supplier and LIE-berals have arranged to ship biomass in from Europe- with a HUGE carbon foot print and with electricity from that plant now costing TWENTY FIVE TIMES MORE than for natural gas fired plants! But LIE-berals DID save SIXTY civil service Hog jobs and that is the whole point- to produce MORE Hog gravy and screw the tax payers and the dirty air! LIE-berals assure us that they are looking for a North American supplier of biomass- which translates into some LIE-beral friend getting a GREAT LONG TERM DEAL at our expense!)

(A year after Our idiot Boy Justin was elected- our resident airhead David Suzuki was moved to call Trudope rude names for being a fake environmentalist as Our idiot Boy had taken NO action on environment in his first year in office!)


As Kruger pointed out, “There is a distinct lack of evidence to determine whether (biomass and carbon capture) are technically feasible, economically affordable, environmentally benign, socially acceptable and politically viable.” Yet the whole of the Paris accord is based on these magic-wand technologies appearing in the next decade or two on such a grand scale that they can save the planet.

(Certainly the pubic is vastly hostile to incineration of garbage- which is basically what biomass is- all sorts of scrap paper, packing crates and anything else burnable stuffed into a furnace to boil water and spin turbines and such burning has a habit of producing dioxin and other lethally dangerous chemicals so nobody wants to live down wind from a plant! And the REPEATED failures of the new Durham Region incinerator facility at the south end of Courtice Rd suggest LIE-berals are handing out FAKE NEWS about biomass! And public perception of the facility is NOT being helped by the number of secret `in camera` meetings between govt and facility builders and operators to discuss the unacceptable levels of pollution belching out the stacks- WAY BEYOND claimed design parameters!
In its first couple of years operation the plant has been repeatedly partially or fully shut down for “upgrades” in an effort to make it perform according to the advertising!)

Since Paris is a largely toothless, rhetorical symbol – and not a legally binding treaty – might it have been wiser for Trump and the U.S. to take the easy way; play the Paris game and pretend to be committed the way the Chinese are?

Maybe. I commend the U.S. president for his honesty and political courage in dumping the pretentious, moralistic, socialist document.

The hysterical reaction to Trump’s move, though, shows how much more importance “progressives” place on appearances over of results. Former U.S. President Barack Obama even popped his retired head up to insist his successor had “turned his back on the future.”

(Our idiot Boy Justin has shown us what Paris Accord is really about- as he has ALREADY committed us to buying two billion dollars worth of carbon credits- nebulous things that Paris Accord socialists DEMAND that all western nations purchase from the third world as the price of pollution- with NO way to actually measure the benefit of carbon credits! In fact- there is ample evidence that buying carbon credits will worsen our air as the billions of dollars being transferred will allow for MORE pollution and larger carbon footprints in unregulated third world countries!)

Oh, please, the Paris accord was such a sham that U.S. withdrawal will do nothing to rescue or destroy Earth.

(LIE-berals are far more interested in slamming Trump and all the values he represents than they are in cleaning the environment! LIE-berals are focused on clinging to power at any price- simply because they are so lost in their arrogance they believe they ARE ENTITLED to lead!)
 

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Isn't bread and water basic?

Suzuki, like Angstrom, believes man can destroy the planet. They're also both communists

It's insane ain't it. Planet 1 man 0, it's built out of durable stuff, we aint


Certainly thier might be a small sect insane enough to want to off the planet.

Gods little helpers.

If I don't get the basics you slower moving specimins will endure petty roberry of unpresidented magnitude, even public lynchings of unproductive political types.
 
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Looks like the communist are out in force again. Talking to feel self righteous but never do nothing about anything they say
you're rabid misanthropic nihilist. generally out of ignorance, not for any educated reasons.

Suzuki, like Angstrom, believes man can destroy the planet. They're also both communists
No. No more of your hysterical McCarthyism, thanks.
 

Angstrom

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Ill be retiring with millions and you’ll be still cashing in you’re welfare checks. ;)
 

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Don’t worry about me, just keep cashing you’re Communist welfycheck.


Where do you go to run into all these Communists? I haven't come across one for years! (My brother has expounded on the benefits, but his lifestyle doesn't quite support it, maybe he's not quite as bright as I am) :) :) :)
 

Angstrom

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Where do you go to run into all these Communists? I haven't come across one for years! (My brother has expounded on the benefits, but his lifestyle doesn't quite support it, maybe he's not quite as bright as I am) :) :) :)

I call equalitarianist Liberals, Communist’s there whole Ideology are based on the same philosophy
 

spilledthebeer

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I and liberals are for capitalist's.

Here is an article explaining why homeless people and massive debt will be in our future for a LONG time to come:

Is it not an absurd contradiction that members of the Liberal party of Canada bitterly resent being referred to as LIE-berals and yet they have just given us THIRTY FIVE MILLION NEW REASONS to call them by the hated nick-name!
The Ontari-owe premier McWynnty-known to some as The Great Whore because she has sold herself, her party and our future to the civil service Working Family Hogs-has insisted that facilities for the Pan Am games were constructed on time and on budget-and in this she has been proven to be a LIE-beral!

The truth is, Pan Am games came in $340 Million dollars over budget in spite of the LIE-beral version of events. The Great Whore covers up her $340 million dollar lie like a sick cat covering its s++t by claiming that the auditor general (Bonnie Lisyk- who was HIRED BY LIE-berals) cannot count properly! So I guess we can guess LIE-berals either LIED about the skills of their auditor or LIED about being on budget? Either way...there is a LIE-beral front and centre!

When the games ended, The Great Whore authorized the payment of five million dollars in extravagant bonuses for Pan Am officials-bonuses that were ONLY supposed to be paid IF the games came in on budget and on time and they did NEITHER! LIE-berals do so enjoy extravagantly rewarding friends and allies-even incompetent ones-though they LIE-beral about it-in spite of endless proof to the contrary!

The City of Hamilton is the first of what may be a number of municipalities to launch a lawsuit against the builder of their football stadium and against the Pan Am committee that organized the construction-those would be the clowns who got the bonuses for being on time and on budget. Sadly, in order to get the stadium LIE-beraly `completed on time` the builder-with Pan Am committee permission- used a number of short cuts that compromised safety and performance of the stadium.

Hamilton City officials have been quietly trying to work with builders and LIE-berals to resolve the OVER NINE HUNDRED DEFICIENCIES in the brand new stadium. City patience boiled over on Wednesday June 8 2017, when a 150 pound speaker came crashing down from its precarious perch one hundred feet up a pole that it was poorly attached to-landing in a public seating area which was mercifully empty at the time or people would have been maimed or killed! As it stands now, the facility has NO sound system as officials have been forced to remove all the other speakers to prevent anybody being maimed or killed by the large, heavy and quite insecure units!

The Hamilton lawsuit against Pan Am is demanding 35 million dollars in compensation so we now have (as mentioned) 35 million more reasons to use that nick name LIE-berals! This is in addition to the $340 million reasons they went over the Pan Am budget and the $5 million reasons generated by paying out bonuses to clowns who did not deserve them!

Thus far municipalities have been close mouthed about the problems that came built into their sloppily constructed Pan Am facilities but we MAY get the truth as municipalities grow weary of struggling with apathetic builders and with uncaring Pan Am clowns who are no longer on the wildly generous govt clock!

The Pan Am nonsense all adds up to an abuse to tax payer money but what else can we expect from LIE-berals. These are the same people who gave out snow plow contracts to companies that did not OWN the necessary equipment to PERFORM the contracts-so LIE-berals BOUGHT them the equipment and gave it to the companies FREE of charge! And later tried to LIE-beral about it!

LIE-berals were also quite happy to reduce the previously expected standard of snow clearing in a timely way when companies complained it was inconvenient to live up to the provincial standards that had been in place for decades. LIE-berals denied eroding snow clearing standards and denied giving public money to private corporations in such a careless way but the truth came LIE-beraling out eventually!

And now LIE-berals want to organize a pension plan for us and also want to get us into the electric car business. And they want to clean our air with their Carbon crap and trade scam! These are the same LIE-berals who thought it would be a good idea to encourage City of Toronto to buy battery powered buses for TTC and ended up having to put diesel buses back onto the battery bus routes as the batteries did not stand up well to Cdn weather! These are the same LIE-berals who have given |Bombardier a billion dollars in tax money/grants and cprovoked a trade war with Boing and Yankees. The same LIE-berals who cannot get street cars delivered to Toronto- in spite of shovelling money into Bombardier! But LIE-berals still insist that everything is under control and that nothing can go wrong with their brand new electric car plan! They say this in spite of the new Tesla Model 3- the “affordable sedan” priced at $35,000 U.S. dollars and a similar sized Nissan Qashqia being priced at $20,000 Cdn! With the Qashqai having a vastly more efficient refueling system and longer range as well!

Can you just picture it-a major snow storm hitting Toronto and traffic is snarled for miles due in part to the usual sloppy LIE-beral standard of snow clearing and a bunch of electric car drivers are inching along-taking MUCH longer to get home than expected- while the bitter cold saps the voltage of their aging batteries and suddenly a bunch of drivers figure out the hard way that they don’t have enough juice in the batteries to get home due to the cold? Can you just hear the screams of outrage every time electric cars conk out and block the streets due to bad batteries that don’t hold up so well in the cold? Bad enough the jerk in front of you has not bothered with snow tires, how much worse will it be to have a dead car in front?

LIE-berals tell us electric cars are the way of the future but they are only the future if LIE-berals WASTE enough of tax payers money BRIBING their Hog pals to buy the damned things! Otherwise the electric car will have to wait for better battery technology.

As it stands now one must be almost an electrician to figure out IF an aging battery can carry the charge needed to get us where we want to go-and of course there must also be calculation made regarding the juice needed to get back home again-PLUS making a very real calculation of what power will be needed for an unexpected delay-as in-how fast will the battery drain for every 5 minutes extra that I run the heater and defroster and headlights and windshield wipers when I did not expect to and didn’t plan for it when I calculated my available battery charge? With current electric car technology you cannot simply turn into a filling station and gas up-electric cars take special equipments and TIME-lots of it- to refuel!

Aging batteries are much less reliable than new ones in holding a charge. Have LIE-berals made ANY serious calculation regarding IF electric cars have the range for practical use in REAL time winter Cdn life? Or are they satisfied they can make MASSIVE changes to car use habits based on a few quick experiments under ideal conditions? WE know there ARE electric cars on the roads but who wants to bet that electric car builders and their govt supporters want to LIE-beral us about how useful the electric cars are in exchange for massive numbers of electric car sales mandated by LIE-beral bribery-and lets face it-if you are supplying massive subsidies to encourage people to buy a product then it IS bribery!

Isn’t that just what every big Toronto snow storm needs to make life more interesting- a nice sprinkling of electric cars with dead batteries stranded on already clogged local roads-whose owners were not paying enough attention to the current battery range compared to actual distance and power required in bad weather? Can such a street clogging nuisance come to pass? LIE-berals say no and that we can trust them....and after all,,,,,have they ever LIE-beraled to us before?
 

spilledthebeer

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Here is an article explaining why homeless people and massive debt will be in our future for a LONG time to come:

Is it not an absurd contradiction that members of the Liberal party of Canada bitterly resent being referred to as LIE-berals and yet they have just given us THIRTY FIVE MILLION NEW REASONS to call them by the hated nick-name!
The Ontari-owe premier McWynnty-known to some as The Great Whore because she has sold herself, her party and our future to the civil service Working Family Hogs-has insisted that facilities for the Pan Am games were constructed on time and on budget-and in this she has been proven to be a LIE-beral!

The truth is, Pan Am games came in $340 Million dollars over budget in spite of the LIE-beral version of events. The Great Whore covers up her $340 million dollar lie like a sick cat covering its s++t by claiming that the auditor general (Bonnie Lisyk- who was HIRED BY LIE-berals) cannot count properly! So I guess we can guess LIE-berals either LIED about the skills of their auditor or LIED about being on budget? Either way...there is a LIE-beral front and centre!

When the games ended, The Great Whore authorized the payment of five million dollars in extravagant bonuses for Pan Am officials-bonuses that were ONLY supposed to be paid IF the games came in on budget and on time and they did NEITHER! LIE-berals do so enjoy extravagantly rewarding friends and allies-even incompetent ones-though they LIE-beral about it-in spite of endless proof to the contrary!

The City of Hamilton is the first of what may be a number of municipalities to launch a lawsuit against the builder of their football stadium and against the Pan Am committee that organized the construction-those would be the clowns who got the bonuses for being on time and on budget. Sadly, in order to get the stadium LIE-beraly `completed on time` the builder-with Pan Am committee permission- used a number of short cuts that compromised safety and performance of the stadium.

Hamilton City officials have been quietly trying to work with builders and LIE-berals to resolve the OVER NINE HUNDRED DEFICIENCIES in the brand new stadium. City patience boiled over on Wednesday June 8 2017, when a 150 pound speaker came crashing down from its precarious perch one hundred feet up a pole that it was poorly attached to-landing in a public seating area which was mercifully empty at the time or people would have been maimed or killed! As it stands now, the facility has NO sound system as officials have been forced to remove all the other speakers to prevent anybody being maimed or killed by the large, heavy and quite insecure units!

The Hamilton lawsuit against Pan Am is demanding 35 million dollars in compensation so we now have (as mentioned) 35 million more reasons to use that nick name LIE-berals! This is in addition to the $340 million reasons they went over the Pan Am budget and the $5 million reasons generated by paying out bonuses to clowns who did not deserve them!

Thus far municipalities have been close mouthed about the problems that came built into their sloppily constructed Pan Am facilities but we MAY get the truth as municipalities grow weary of struggling with apathetic builders and with uncaring Pan Am clowns who are no longer on the wildly generous govt clock!

The Pan Am nonsense all adds up to an abuse to tax payer money but what else can we expect from LIE-berals. These are the same people who gave out snow plow contracts to companies that did not OWN the necessary equipment to PERFORM the contracts-so LIE-berals BOUGHT them the equipment and gave it to the companies FREE of charge! And later tried to LIE-beral about it!

LIE-berals were also quite happy to reduce the previously expected standard of snow clearing in a timely way when companies complained it was inconvenient to live up to the provincial standards that had been in place for decades. LIE-berals denied eroding snow clearing standards and denied giving public money to private corporations in such a careless way but the truth came LIE-beraling out eventually!

And now LIE-berals want to organize a pension plan for us and also want to get us into the electric car business. And they want to clean our air with their Carbon crap and trade scam! These are the same LIE-berals who thought it would be a good idea to encourage City of Toronto to buy battery powered buses for TTC and ended up having to put diesel buses back onto the battery bus routes as the batteries did not stand up well to Cdn weather! These are the same LIE-berals who have given |Bombardier a billion dollars in tax money/grants and cprovoked a trade war with Boing and Yankees. The same LIE-berals who cannot get street cars delivered to Toronto- in spite of shovelling money into Bombardier! But LIE-berals still insist that everything is under control and that nothing can go wrong with their brand new electric car plan! They say this in spite of the new Tesla Model 3- the “affordable sedan” priced at $35,000 U.S. dollars and a similar sized Nissan Qashqia being priced at $20,000 Cdn! With the Qashqai having a vastly more efficient refueling system and longer range as well!

Can you just picture it-a major snow storm hitting Toronto and traffic is snarled for miles due in part to the usual sloppy LIE-beral standard of snow clearing and a bunch of electric car drivers are inching along-taking MUCH longer to get home than expected- while the bitter cold saps the voltage of their aging batteries and suddenly a bunch of drivers figure out the hard way that they don’t have enough juice in the batteries to get home due to the cold? Can you just hear the screams of outrage every time electric cars conk out and block the streets due to bad batteries that don’t hold up so well in the cold? Bad enough the jerk in front of you has not bothered with snow tires, how much worse will it be to have a dead car in front?

LIE-berals tell us electric cars are the way of the future but they are only the future if LIE-berals WASTE enough of tax payers money BRIBING their Hog pals to buy the damned things! Otherwise the electric car will have to wait for better battery technology.

As it stands now one must be almost an electrician to figure out IF an aging battery can carry the charge needed to get us where we want to go-and of course there must also be calculation made regarding the juice needed to get back home again-PLUS making a very real calculation of what power will be needed for an unexpected delay-as in-how fast will the battery drain for every 5 minutes extra that I run the heater and defroster and headlights and windshield wipers when I did not expect to and didn’t plan for it when I calculated my available battery charge? With current electric car technology you cannot simply turn into a filling station and gas up-electric cars take special equipments and TIME-lots of it- to refuel!

Aging batteries are much less reliable than new ones in holding a charge. Have LIE-berals made ANY serious calculation regarding IF electric cars have the range for practical use in REAL time winter Cdn life? Or are they satisfied they can make MASSIVE changes to car use habits based on a few quick experiments under ideal conditions? WE know there ARE electric cars on the roads but who wants to bet that electric car builders and their govt supporters want to LIE-beral us about how useful the electric cars are in exchange for massive numbers of electric car sales mandated by LIE-beral bribery-and lets face it-if you are supplying massive subsidies to encourage people to buy a product then it IS bribery!

Isn’t that just what every big Toronto snow storm needs to make life more interesting- a nice sprinkling of electric cars with dead batteries stranded on already clogged local roads-whose owners were not paying enough attention to the current battery range compared to actual distance and power required in bad weather? Can such a street clogging nuisance come to pass? LIE-berals say no and that we can trust them....and after all,,,,,have they ever LIE-beraled to us before?

Here is some more on LIE-beral tax madness:


Here is a little story to illustrate the scatterbrained logic of LIE-beral thinkers, along with some comments of my own in brackets):

UP Express subsidy under fire. By Jenny Yuen, Toronto Sun. First posted: Sunday, July 03, 2016 11:24 PM EDT | Updated: Sunday, July 03, 2016 11:28 PM EDT

Metrolinx arrogant and out of touch

The provincial government chose to give money to an empty airport express train instead of packed subway cars, according to a transit riders group.

TTCriders is up in arms over a recent Metrolinx report, which revealed the Union Pearson Express train received a government subsidy — $52.26 per ride — during its first 10 months of operation which was about 50 times larger than what the TTC received — 89 cents per ride.

“The Union Pearson train will continue to need a big subsidy because it was poorly designed to be a small boutique service for jet setters,” said TTCriders spokesman Jessica Bell in a statement Friday. “We question why Premier Wynne is so willing to fund the Union Pearson train, but refuses to fairly fund the overcrowded TTC, which is what the vast majority of riders use.”

The group is pushing for Mayor John Tory and Premier Kathleen Wynne to give the TTC what they deem is fair funding — $1.26 a ride. It also wants the airport train service transformed into a mass transit line with stops in neighbourhoods, TTC-level fares and electrified trains, Bell said.

(I say increased provincial funding for TTC is good money WASTED! Toronto ALREADY receives TEN TIMES MORE money for each citizen in Toronto than any other municipality-such a GROSS discrepancy is clearly unfair to ALL other citizens of Ontari-owe. LIE-berals were not elected to serve Toronto ONLY! But that is what they are doing-and its WHY no Ontari-owe LIE-beral can get elected outside Toronto. Any new money given to TTC for any reason will simply be swallowed up in new salaries and MORE GRAVY for Hogs. Toronto MUST learn to put its books in the black without LEACHING off all other govts levels! Toronto HAS sufficient revenue-it just LACKS the will to SPEND WISELY! )

The TTC faces a budget crunch, requiring $178-million more than last year just to maintain current service levels. Toronto’s executive committee has asked the TTC to slash its budget by 2.6% — the equivalent of taking 900 of the city’s 1,600 buses off the road during peak hours, according to Councillor Gord Perks.

(WE should ask how much of that $178 million will go to salary and pensions increases? And how much is needed for repairs to the system that was badly NEGLECTED for so long simply because Hogs chose gravy for themselves instead of doing repair work and Silly Hall Hogs let them away with that greed!)

“Toronto riders are in for big fare hikes and service cuts next year, and that’s entirely the fault of Premier Wynne and Mayor Tory,” said Bell.

(NO-service cuts and fare hikes are the fault of Socialist Silly Hall which has deliberately made the choice to fund the civil service Hog gravy train RATHER than pay for needed services! There is money enough for gravy OR for TTC services-BUT NOT BOTH! Queens Park has OTHER problems than bailing out stupid Hogtown politicians!)

Metrolinx defends its ridership and performance since UP Express launched June 6, 2015.

“This is just the first year for UP Express and our goal is to get the subsidy significantly reduced over time,” said spokesman Anne Marie Aikins. “Ridership has gone way up and continuing to increase every week. It is now over 8,000 every weekday.”

(I am sure Aikins gets well paid to be a UP spokesperson since she has handed us such a nicely wrapped propaganda package of BULLSHIT! The only way to get the money to reduce the UP subsidy is to INCREASE the UP prices-and of course they have just been FORCED to CUT the prices by OVER HALF in order to get anybody onto the virtually empty `ghost` train! The only way to make Up pay-as the Silly Hall hypocrites KNOW-is to hand it over to TTC and put in a pack of local stops to be used by regular transit riders-but that would spoil the `express`part of the ride to Pearson for those privileged Air travelers wouldn’t it! )

Mayor John Tory’s office referred questions about the issue to TTC Chairman Josh Colle, who couldn’t be reached for comment.

(Yeah, I bet that`s right-if I was TTC chairman I would not want to talk about this UP Express crap either!)
 

Angstrom

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Basic income for everyone, but not you white male. Get you’re ass back to work for the communist
 

HarperCons

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your persecution complex doesn't come from the fact you're white, but the fact that you're racist.
 

Angstrom

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your persecution complex doesn't come from the fact you're white, but the fact that you're racist.

Even if I was, it wouldn’t change the fact white males aren't given handouts. So if im racist is irrelevant, but you’re welcome to think so. I don’t give two shits what a dumb fuking communist twit like you thinks anyways. :)

I used to be a communist, I may very well have remained one if it wasn’t made perfectly clear to me handouts are for everyone else but me.

If social help is not available for me when I need it then, why should I support & pay for it when i don’t need it. I rather pay less taxes and have more to put away for myself for when i fall onto hard times

“ My persecution complex “ comes from genuinely needing social help and receiving none.

If im going to be feed to the wolves when times are tough then at least have the decency of allowing me to keep my full revenue to help put money away for when times could get harder.

Im not going to support a system that has no intention of supporting me when i need it. At least with capitalism im in control of my destiny. Its doesn't fall under someone else’s jurisdiction of deciding if im eligible for help or not. At least with capitalism if I fail I have no one but myself to blame

Comunism failed me. Fuk communism
 

Danbones

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communism is for people who like to bend over and for those that like to bend them over

Suzuki, like Angstrom, believes man can destroy the planet. They're also both communists

Suzuki is an admitted eugenicist
Man IS destroying the planet as far as life is concerned...look at the extinction rate.
;)
Jeez, What? You didn't notice?
:)
lol, that's why your posts are known as zeropinions
*hug*

Illinois Lost 1 Resident Every 4.3 Minutes In 2017, Dropped To 6th Most Populous State
Illinois Lost 1 Resident Every 4.3 Minutes In 2017, Dropped To 6th Most Populous State | Zero Hedge

They left alright
 

spilledthebeer

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communism is for people who like to bend over and for those that like to bend them over



Suzuki is an admitted eugenicist
Man IS destroying the planet as far as life is concerned...look at the extinction rate.
;)
Jeez, What? You didn't notice?
:)
lol, that's why your posts are known as zeropinions
*hug*

Illinois Lost 1 Resident Every 4.3 Minutes In 2017, Dropped To 6th Most Populous State
Illinois Lost 1 Resident Every 4.3 Minutes In 2017, Dropped To 6th Most Populous State | Zero Hedge

They left alright



Here is an article illustrating just why electricity in Ontari-owe costs so much and it also explains why there are so many homeless and it goes on to prove what I have said- that LIE-berals could not run a chip truck at a profit even if you gave them the potatoes for free! With some comment of my own in brackets):

Brampton gas plant ’gamed’ system out of $100M

(That is one lone plant- for $100 million in a few short years! It does NOT count the billion plus wasted by LIE-berals to decide NOT BUILD TWO gas plants!)

Canadian Press. Published: December 5, 2017. Updated: December 5, 2017 11:57 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario

TORONTO — The Ontario Energy Board has found that a Brampton natural gas plant “gamed” the system out of nearly $100 million — costs borne by ratepayers.

(This is just one plant of many- so how much more cheating remains to be exposed?)

A report from the OEB’s market surveillance panel — quietly posted online last month — concluded that Goreway Power Station repeatedly exploited defects in the system over several years.

It says the systems in place create opportunities for exploitation, to the serious financial disadvantage of ratepayers, and Goreway’s conduct offers a clear illustration of those flaws.

(LIE-berals have encourged private investors to get into the energy market- which apparently means that LIE-beral FRIENDS are getting rich selling us costly energy! Crtainly when LIE-berals sold off a chunk of Hydro One- the stocks were all reserved for LIE-beral PALS! The `public` offering of stock was actually only offered to select persons with suitable connections and political pedigree! And then LIE-berals slammed shut the books and refused to let us see their political dirty laundry!)

The OEB says Goreway agreed to a settlement with the Independent Electricity System Operator to repay a “substantial portion” but the amount is blacked out in the report at Goreway’s request.

The company was also fined $10 million, but it said through a lawyer in a letter attached to the report that it disagrees with many of the conclusions, including suggestions that Goreway gamed the system or deliberately misled the IESO.

Energy Minister Glenn Thibeault says the IESO discovered the issues with Goreway early on and senior leadership at the company have since been replaced.

(Oh right- and now we have new reports of energy producers billing tax payers for scuba gear and raccoon traps and all manner of other things- who can say how deep this rip off runs- since LIE-berals are doing their level best to HIDE the energy books!)

(It has been over 100 years since democratic govts decided that a company that has a monopoly should be handled more tightly than other businesses- yet here are LIE-berals claiming to be champions of truth and justice and fairness- going out of their way to REVERSE the traditional method of handling a monopoly by sucking up to the civil service Hogs and their allies who run our electricity system! Oh well......LIE-berals are ENTITLED! Just listen to them and see for yourself!)
 

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Here is an article illustrating just why electricity in Ontari-owe costs so much and it also explains why there are so many homeless and it goes on to prove what I have said- that LIE-berals could not run a chip truck at a profit even if you gave them the potatoes for free! With some comment of my own in brackets):

Brampton gas plant ’gamed’ system out of $100M

(That is one lone plant- for $100 million in a few short years! It does NOT count the billion plus wasted by LIE-berals to decide NOT BUILD TWO gas plants!)

Canadian Press. Published: December 5, 2017. Updated: December 5, 2017 11:57 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario

TORONTO — The Ontario Energy Board has found that a Brampton natural gas plant “gamed” the system out of nearly $100 million — costs borne by ratepayers.

(This is just one plant of many- so how much more cheating remains to be exposed?)

A report from the OEB’s market surveillance panel — quietly posted online last month — concluded that Goreway Power Station repeatedly exploited defects in the system over several years.

It says the systems in place create opportunities for exploitation, to the serious financial disadvantage of ratepayers, and Goreway’s conduct offers a clear illustration of those flaws.

(LIE-berals have encourged private investors to get into the energy market- which apparently means that LIE-beral FRIENDS are getting rich selling us costly energy! Crtainly when LIE-berals sold off a chunk of Hydro One- the stocks were all reserved for LIE-beral PALS! The `public` offering of stock was actually only offered to select persons with suitable connections and political pedigree! And then LIE-berals slammed shut the books and refused to let us see their political dirty laundry!)

The OEB says Goreway agreed to a settlement with the Independent Electricity System Operator to repay a “substantial portion” but the amount is blacked out in the report at Goreway’s request.

The company was also fined $10 million, but it said through a lawyer in a letter attached to the report that it disagrees with many of the conclusions, including suggestions that Goreway gamed the system or deliberately misled the IESO.

Energy Minister Glenn Thibeault says the IESO discovered the issues with Goreway early on and senior leadership at the company have since been replaced.

(Oh right- and now we have new reports of energy producers billing tax payers for scuba gear and raccoon traps and all manner of other things- who can say how deep this rip off runs- since LIE-berals are doing their level best to HIDE the energy books!)

(It has been over 100 years since democratic govts decided that a company that has a monopoly should be handled more tightly than other businesses- yet here are LIE-berals claiming to be champions of truth and justice and fairness- going out of their way to REVERSE the traditional method of handling a monopoly by sucking up to the civil service Hogs and their allies who run our electricity system! Oh well......LIE-berals are ENTITLED! Just listen to them and see for yourself!)

Here is another reason why there is no money for necessary stuff like transit, health care, repair of infrastructure and etc- LIE-berals and their civil service Hog allies have grabbed up ALL the gravy:


Here is a report describing the influence LIE-berals have had on our roads and insurance policies-with some comments of my own in brackets):

Ontario drivers have fewest accidents, pay highest insurance premiums: Report

By Shawn Jeffords, Toronto Sun. First posted: Thursday, April 13, 2017 09:34 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, April 13, 2017 09:46 PM EDT

A damning report on Ontario’s auto insurance system has found that the province has the lowest number of accidents on its roads but drivers pay the highest premiums in the country.

There are about 60,000 collisions on the provinces roads each year, yet drivers pay $10 billion in insurance premiums annually, concluded David Marshall — the former head of the Workplace Safety Insurance Board — who was appointed by the Liberal government to review the auto insurance system.

(Lowest number of accidents and highest insurance premiums- along with the insurance benefits for people injured in car crashes CUT IN HALF by LIE-berals as a way to save us an alleged fifteen percent! How did these incompetent money managers ever get hold of our wallets? LET me remind you they BOUGHT the votes they needed- USING OUR MONEY- sucking up to civil service Hogs and special interest groups such as Black Lives Matter, corrupt/drugged/alcoholic natives on reserves and Muslims- and ALL are groups with chips on their shoulders and NO concern whatever for what happens to main stream society!)

“Overall, Ontario has one of the lowest levels of auto accidents and fatalities in Canada and the most expensive auto insurance premiums,” Marshall said in his report to the government. “Historically, periods of cost reduction have inevitably been followed by cost increases.”

(This is the face of SOCIALISM- gross costs and total screw ups and Ontari-owe is now the most indebted sub national entity on the planet- ONLY THE PIGS- Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain are more indebted than us! But hey-LIE-berals and their pals NEED good investments so their gravy will continue to flow so how better than for them to buy stocks in Insurance companies that enjoy windfall profits thanks to LIE-berals messing with the insurance system!)

(And to save LIE-berals even more money- they have quietly ERODED the standard of snow clearing on our roads! And then when people got angry over insurance costs and snow clogged roads LIE-berals began scrimping on the quality of asphalt being put on the roads-its penny wise and pound foolish as it gives LIE-berals extra cash in the short term and lets the roads fall apart FASTER in long term and ends up costing MORE as roads need more frequent resurfacing-but that’s a LIE-beral for you- whatever they NEED NOW is fine- tomorrow can take care of itself! And for LIE-berals- tomorrow arrives in June 2018 when they have to face an election and an enraged electorate!)

His report, Fair Benefits Fairly Delivered: A Review of the Auto Insurance System in Ontario, was released quietly by the government this week.

Marshall said that Ontario’s average auto insurance premium in 2015 was $1,458 per vehicle. That premium is 24% higher than Alberta and double premiums in Quebec. It’s almost 55% higher than the Canadian average, excluding Ontario, he says.

Marshall wrote that Ontario has one of the least effective insurance systems in Canada. Most of the money in the system isn’t going to accident victims, who are often not receiving appropriate care, he said.

The system is filled with disputes and inefficiencies, and a very high percentage of premiums are being used to pay experts and lawyers and not going directly to injured persons,” said Marshall.

Progressive Conservative finance critic Vic Fedeli said the report shows the Ontarians are paying too much for car insurance in an “antiquated system” that requires an overhaul.

“We have insurance rates that don’t line up to anybody else in Canada,” he added. “The problem is that it doesn’t put the victim at the centre. It really tries to fit into a mold that takes care of the people who do the handling of the victim.”

Marshall recommended sweeping changes to the system, including setting up an arms-length regulator, adopting a “care-not-cash” approach to treating victims and more transparency in lawyer’s fees.

Marshall’s findings came after the Ontario Liberal government failed to make good on a 2013 promise to slash auto insurance rates by 15%. Rates are down by around 8%, about half their target.

(So we have another Lie-beral promise exposed-we got a FIFTY PERCENT CUT in benefits and only eight percent off costs! What a fine RIP OFF!)

Fedeli also slammed the government for its quiet release of the report, saying, “I don’t think they’re overly proud of it.”

(Oh I think LIE-berals ARE PROUD of what they have done! They have funneled gravy to their friends. They have discouraged people from driving as far or as often by making it too costly. LIE-berals ARE concerned about the environment and they have decided that ONLY THEY and their Hog allies should drive-all the rest of us should shut up and get on the BUS! LIE-berals tell us driving is a privilege but they mean it’s a privilege for ordinary people but its ESSENTIAL for Hogs and LIE-berals. After all, how can they get to fine restaurants, and nice hotels and fund raising parties and to their cottages and seasonal resorts without cars? But WE ordinary types DON’T NEED any of that doe we? LIE-berals have given us THEIR ANSWER!)

NDP deputy leader Jagmeet Singh said for years the province has put insurance industry profits over the needs of Ontarians, including reducing benefits to accident victims. At the same time, they’ve allowed premiums to increase, he said.

Jessica Martin, spokesman for Finance Minister Charles Sousa, said the government posted the report online Tuesday. The province has introduced a series of measures to reduce rates since 2015, but there is more to be done, she said.

(What? MORE to be done? Oh yes- some of us STILL persist in driving and getting in the way of Hogs and LIE-berals going about their business! And some of us crash our vehicles and block roads and LIMIT Hog fun times by delaying them!)

(The dirtiest way to travel is by airplane-they spew out 75 percent of all pollution related to “travel” - which means planes, trains, autos, trucks, buses, ships-anything that carries either passengers or cargo- and planes put out 75 percent of that pollution! So-which is more likely to save our environment: should we let gravy starved Hogs slowly screw us with insurance costs and force us off the road-even though cars are NOT the major environmental problem they once were-and knowing that it is Hogs jaunting about in airplanes that are now the big pollution producer. Or would we be better off to cut back on gravy for hogs and force them out of planes and also persuade them to do as we do-buy smaller houses that are easier to heat, buy smaller cars and use them less often, and persuade them to dump some of the gas guzzling toys they have lined up on their stylish Muskoka docks? And maybe we should be charging environmental fees on some of those HUGE motorboats that are growling up and down the lakes and canals and require A thousand or two thousand liters or more per fill up?)

(On a related theme-LIE-berals whine about the environmental cost of generating electricity so lets BAN those stupid bubble systems that are the rage in Muskoka-the ones that are hooked to an electric powered air compressor and run SIX MONTHS per year to keep water from freezing around precious Hog owned docks and preventing some ice damage. What price the environment when it is Hog convenience under threat? Lets start setting some SENSIBLE priorities for fossil fuel use instead of simply screwing those citizens who are NOT LIE-beral friendly? LIE-berals are concerned about the environment in YOUR backyard but NOT in theirs! LIE-berals are so entitled they don’t think their s**t stinks!)
 

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Here is another reason why there is no money for necessary stuff like transit, health care, repair of infrastructure and etc- LIE-berals and their civil service Hog allies have grabbed up ALL the gravy:


Here is a report describing the influence LIE-berals have had on our roads and insurance policies-with some comments of my own in brackets):


I'm going to cut to the chase and get one stumbling block out of the way before we get hung up on shit that isn't going to solve any problems. If this "basic income for all" is to include able bodied people who refuse to work, you may as well find another drum to beat on. This isn't going to fly! :)