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Oitosyros

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Western Sweden like my cousin but I like Canada better.

South West I've lived.
I dont know how to use all the features of this site so am sorry if it troubles u
23 just turned.... like a month ago am just looking for friends and expanding my network....
 

spilledthebeer

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Already twenty post from you this night i having just read you profiles.

Maybe if we teach highsticky some English he will understand that it is madness to even think of voting LIE-beral in Canada? Of course once he graduates from school and starts paying taxes then he will find MANY MORE reasons to dislike LIE-berals!

Here is an article illustrating the consequences if Our idiot Boy Justin refuses to be sensible and provokes Trump into killing NAFTA. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Canadian economy to take 0.55% hit to GDP if NAFTA scrapped: Report

Canadian Press. Published: November 27, 2017. Updated: November 27, 2017 1:18 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

OTTAWA — A new report concludes the end of the North American Free Trade Agreement would trim just over half a percentage point from Canada’s economy.

It finds that the end of NAFTA would shave 0.55% off Canada’s GDP, push 25,000-50,000 Canadians from the workforce, and reduce exports by 2.8%.

The report comes from Dan Ciuriak, the former head of computer modelling for Canada’s foreign-affairs ministry. Now a private consultant, Ciuriak spent recent weeks analysing the numbers for a report for the CD Howe think tank.

The damage predicted in his report is the equivalent of a noticeable economic downturn, albeit far less than the 2.5% GDP loss he said he was expecting to find in an interview last month, as he began his work.

(Just because the harm appears less than he feared does NOT mean there is nothing to fear- who says the model is exactly right in measuring the harm? After all we do not know what NEW duties and tariffs we may get hit with- that stuff is only a vague GUESS at this time! And with Trump DETERMINED not to import Muslim terror cells into United States along with the Cdn softwood lumber and dairy products- the economic damage may be quite severe! Up to and including a huge pile of Cdns being BARRED from travel to The States-either for business or for the Snowbird playtime! Alternatively- Trump COULD impose a fee for Cdns wishing to enter- the fees would then be used to pay Yankee security people to track Cdns- and others as well- as they move about The States!)


Ciuriak said the damage would be almost completely offset if the original 1987 Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement were to survive the NAFTA.

(HAHAHAHA! Funny guy! The 1987 deal is DEAD! Trump is angry with our idiot Boy because of the total lack of LIE-beral interest in national security and illegal immigration and Muslim terror! Trump wants to eliminate Muslim terror in Untied States while Our idiot Boy wants us to get used to it- like snow storms and floods and tornados! LIE-berals even go so far as to compare your chances of dying in a car crash versus a Muslim terror attack- and yes- your odds of dying at the hands of a Muslim are lower than for a car crash- AT THIS TIME_ but HEY! WE PAY cops to referee bad drivers and take them off the road and even lock them up - while LIE-berals are PAYING Muslims to come here take action if and when they feel like it and LIE-berals are calling us Islamophobes and systemic racists and threatening criminal punishment against us from Human Rights- but too often Wrong Kangaroo Courts if we argue against their greed and stupidity!)



(AS for the 1987 trade deal, it included various stuff about auto parts and auto production and that Detroit Iron production- and all the other manufacturing jobs we lost do not happen here any more- its ALL gone- either lost to automation or gone to Mexico and it will NOT be coming back here! General Motors in Oshawa is just ticking over in slow idle-waiting to see if they should abandon Canada completely thanks to the threatened death of NAFTA and thanks to Trump imposing various duties on `foreign` products and thanks also to the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade scam that is a deal breaker for auto makers- UNLESS LIE-berals offer an exemption from that tax- which they WILL NOT DO as it would open the flood gates and MANY other businesses would demand the same deal- to save jobs!)

Preserving the Canada-Mexico partnership in NAFTA would have only a very slight impact on the damage if the U.S. leaves, Ciuriak also found.

(Of course- what do we really export to Mexico- other than tourists looking for cheap booze and sun burns? And what do we buy from Mexico other than sombreros and tequila- and we can always switch to cheap Russian vodka if the tequila gets rationed? And if Trump succeeds in killing NAFTA- who says Mexico will be in a position to BUY ANYTHING from anybody? The nation is a near basket case as it is and killing NAFTA may tip them into total chaos! One has only to look at the mess in Venezuela to understand how fully Mexico could collapse- and Ciuriak has NOT done any modelling on Mexico that I am aware of!)

(Also- as 60 percent of our national debt is held by foreigners- with Yankees holding the lions share- and Germans and Japanese holding the rest- and we MUST pay our debt in U.S. dollars- and that means ANYTHING that reduces our dollar will make our debt MUCH HARDER to handle!)

(LIE-berals tell us repeatedly that our debt is not a problem just so long as interest rates do not rise- and the economy remains stable! So WHY is Our idiot Boy Justin IGNORING Yankee national security issues regarding Muslim terrorists and organized crime perpetrated by illegal immigrants to both Canada and U.S. Our idiot Boy is more interested in sucking up to Muslim terrorists so he can buy their votes and cling to power than he is in repairing NAFTA so our debt debauched economy will not take a killer hit!)


(So - a whole lot of loose ends and NO hard answers- in spite of the brave talk of stupid LIE-berals! And our Hogs want in on the negotiations- they are insisting that LIE-berals force Yankees to make concessions on auto manufacturing on behalf of Cdns! Hogs IGNORE the reality as usual- they forget that auto production was moved to Mexico as a cost saving effort- cars made by entirely by Yankees or Cdns are TOO COSTLY and will not be purchased by consumers already dealing with record debt levels! Forcing \GM to build cars here is a great way of insuring that Toyota, Hyundai and Honda sell a LOT of cars here in future!)

(LIE-berals IGNORE two dangerous facts with regard to Cdn national debt. Firstly- much of the debt is being run up by Hogs- who are foolishly convinced that their gravy train will run forever- with no limits! A large economic hiccup will of course derail the gravy train and cause all manner of fiscal trouble for Hogs and they KNOW this- which is why they keep voting for LIE-beral loons who will encourage their fairy tale view of the world in exchange for votes!)

(The second fiscal matter being ignored by Hogs is the debt loads of ordinary people that MUST be run up or else people will starve! LIE-berals ignore the increasing inability of ordinary people to pay their way with major student loans, frozen wages, reduced work hours, huge taxes, and all manner of LIE-beral tax gouging- then add in the major costs of catering to the illegal immigrants that Our idiot Boy is collecting as if he were some sort of crazy cat lady who compulsively takes in every one he sees! Ordinary people are very vulnerable to any bump in the economy- and as we saw in 1929 and in 2008- the world economy is very unstable thanks to huge debt loads which LIE-berals around the world are doing their best to HIDE!)

(The potential for a catastrophic fiscal failure is growing as LIE-berals use ever more “Creative accounting” methods to “hide” their debts! In a matter of months our very own Wynne-bag has been forced to admit that her “balanced budget” is NOT BALANCED- to the tune of FOUR BILLION DOLLARS- and this is WITHOUT counting the new contracts that LIE-berals and Hogs have signed that give Hogs raises of 7.5 percent over 4 years- with no clue where grossly indebted Ontari-owe will get that money! WE simply cannot afford to allow LIE-berals to continue to BUY friends so they can cling to power at any price!)
 

spilledthebeer

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Much better. See? You don't "have" to ramble incoherently.

We are all aware of your desire to remain ignorant. In aid of your goal I suggest you stop logging on to this site so you will never again be exposed to ideas of any sort!


Seven days, two crises in Trudeau’s 2017 mid-term summer: Tim Harper 8/25

Toronto Star. Tim Harper - National Affairs Columnist

Editor’s note: The opinions in this article are the author’s, as published by our content partner, and do not necessarily represent the views of MSN or Microsoft.

If we mark the beginning of our summer as Canada Day, Justin Trudeau may look back fondly on that day, realizing forgetting Alberta from the Ottawa stage was the highlight of his summer.

This is shaping up as the antithesis of the shirtless selfie summer of 2016 for the prime minister.

In the space of 10 days, the government’s decision to apologize to and compensate Omar Khadr has sparked fierce blowback that shows no signs of abating.

And his Indigenous Affairs Minister, Carolyn Bennett, was forced to stand before the microphones in Ottawa Tuesday, offering a rather shaky vote of confidence in the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls inquiry, following its most recent resignation.

On the Khadr file, perfectly sound Liberal arguments regarding the Charter of Rights, Supreme Court judgments, mistreatment of a child soldier, a fruitless court pursuit and a savings of tax dollars has crashed on the rocks of a Canadian public that sees only a terrorist and $10.5 million.

(How sad for LIE-berals that the great majority of Cdns figure that if Omar Khadr has complaints about his treatment he should whine to his vile Jihadist parents and to Taliban and Al Quaida commanders who used him as cannon fodder till Yankees wounded and captured him!)

The MMIWG inquiry was supposed to be the lowest of hanging fruit for a government, a key stepping stone on the way to promised Indigenous reconciliation. But it is proving to be toxic fruit, riven with competing views and philosophies and communications breakdowns.

(Poor gullible natives actually believed the pre- election crap spouted by vote hungry LIE-berals- and now the native boo birds are angry at the “betrayal”!)

Tuesday, Marilyn Poitras became the fifth staffer to step down; the first commissioner.

Which of these two early summer messes will prove more costly to the Trudeau government?

One aspect of the Khadr settlement which has been largely overlooked is how the Trudeau government managed to ensure that it did not seep across the border and draw the wrath of U.S. President Donald Trump.

(Oh there is LIE-beral propaganda! Trump has been using trade thrwats to try to bully LIE-berals into upgrading Cdn national security -with Our idiot Boy being a REAL IDIOT and ignoring the Yankee pressure!)

While government sources say there was no direct contact with the White House before last Friday’s formal announcement, there were heads’ up given to the U.S. state department and department of defence.

They attribute the U.S. silence to the fact that the U.K. and Australia had similarly compensated a number of Guantanamo Bay prisoners.

(That NEITHER Britain nor Australia shares a LONG border with United States- one that a horde if illegals are routinely crossing at the invitation of Our idiot Boy may explain why Trump is taking more note of the Cdn security mess!)

Most notably, the sources were referring to Moazzam Begg, who was compensated by the U.K. government after arguing that Britain’s MI-5 had been complicit in his mistreatment in Guantanamo, just as Canadian officials denied Khadr’s rights by interrogating him, without legal representation.

Begg was denied entry into Canada in 2011 by the Stephen Harper government when he sought to speak to Khadr’s legal counsel and speak out on torture and the U.S. war on terror.

Australia compensated Egyptian-Australian citizen Mamdouh Habib who was taken to Egypt, then held for more than two years at Guantanamo Bay in a case Australian media compared to Canadian Maher Arar, who received $10.5 million from Ottawa after he was rendered to Syria, where he was tortured.

(And it seems clear from the above information that NEITHER the Australian nor the Brit were actually FIGHTING in Afghanistan against Yankees! Its rather easier to make a case for injured innocence if you are living happily in your western home and ignoring the Jihad in Middle East- unlike Khadr who travelled across half the planet to help his bomb maker father make improvised explosive devices that were used to maim and kill western troops!)

But those cases were settled before Trump, who has publicly backed torture and spoken out against coddling terrorists. If he saw an injustice against the family of U.S. soldier Christopher Speer, he remained mum.

(What it comes down to is that Trump has bigger fish to fry than some worm like Khadr!)

Sources say the subject was never broached when Trump and Trudeau spoke at the G20 in Germany.

Seeking U.S. silence might have been prudent for the Liberals, but the outrage fomented by opportunistic Conservatives might be playing differently in this country if Andrew Scheer was echoing Trump.

(How absurd that LIE-beral statement is! Trump is working hard to limit Muslim access to United States and as previously mentioned he is worried about a pack of Muslims and one lone, stupid, traumatized Muslim Cdn like Kjhadr simply does not concern him- it’s the BIGGER fish he wants to fry!)

Every time a government compensated one of their nationals held at Guantanamo, outrage ensued. This may play out longer than the Liberals anticipated, but it will play itself out this autumn.

The imploding Indigenous inquiry is more important to not just the government, but the country.

(Toronto Red Star apologists for LIE-berals greatly over rate public interest in the Murdered Missing Native Woman Inquiry! We KNOW that there is NO new evidence for any of these cases. LIE-berals and their allies can hint at any sort of bigotry they choose but the can prove NOTHING and neither can this cynical vote buying exercise! |That the inquiry is denerating into rage and sullen frustration is simply proof positive that LIE-berals are winging it and counting on glib bafflegab to smooth the waters!)

Bennett was sufficiently concerned that she met with commissioners Monday, but came away believing they have the “vision, values, tools and the plans to get this work done.’’

She wasn’t sure herself they had a plan. Now she thinks they do “but I just think people don’t know about it.’’

(And the inquiry has been working for many months now- should the “plan” not have been revealed before people started walking out in rage? Or are we just listening to LIE-beral bafflegab?)

The commission has not brought Canadians with them, as successful inquiries do, Bennett conceded.

(Cdns recognize LIE-beral crap when they hear it!)

But a letter released by Poitras made it clear there are fundamental differences between the commissioners, and Chief Commissioner Marion Buller told the CBC that whenever you put five people (commissioners) “in a room, you’re going to have five different opinions.’’

That hardly bodes well.

(Yeah- LIE-berals are struggling to rein in hot heads who want to slander all cops and get LIE-berals sued while insulting all of Cdn society!)

The government can let the Khadr furor play out.

(But the recent Muslim terror attack in Edmonton and the medical costs for the wounded might just remind Cdns of that vast LIE-beral error in judgement!)

It can’t let a flawed inquiry play out. It is losing the confidence of both Indigenous and non-Indigenous Canadians. It can’t be allowed to slide into a ditch.

(Non indigenous Cdns never had any faith in the Inquiry! And the Inquiry was pretty much BORN in a ditch!)

Its success is important to the government and the country, but most importantly to families who have lost loved ones.

Inevitably, this government will have to take action to get it back on the road.

(Considering the rage being generated, the only option open to LIE-berals is to admit they made a GROSS error and put the Inquiry out of its misery! There simply is No open road for this LIE-beral train wreck!)

Tim Harper writes on national affairs. tjharper77 at gmail
 

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We are all aware of your desire to remain ignorant. In aid of your goal I suggest you stop logging on to this site so you will never again be exposed to ideas of any sort!


"Suggest" to this f**King idiot? Maybe with a 4 X 4 across the back of the head! :) :) :) :)
 

mentalfloss

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I dont know how to use all the features of this site so am sorry if it troubles u
23 just turned.... like a month ago am just looking for friends and expanding my network....

Talk to petros.

He'll find you a job astroturfing for Saskpower.
 

spilledthebeer

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Reading and comprehending long posts is rather time consuming when you can only "disgest" two words a minute! :) :)

Oh cliffy- you should not speak at all -- tis better to be suspected of being a fool than to open your mouth and prove it!

Herevis an older post reminding us of screwed up LIE-beral priorities!

Oh lord I am truly SICK of those stupid Metrolinx commercials…..each one telling us what manner of public transit they envision us needing and them building……all those endless studies on what they might build and where; all those surveys on what we want or might most likely use; all that money for commercials and what have those donkeys built? NOTHING! And what are they likely to start building any time soon? NOTHING! The Toronto City council was badgered into agreeing to build the Eglinton LRT by Mayor Ford- and he got the job done by DERAILING- temporarily- the civil service Hog gravy train! Toronto Silly Hall has money for gravy OR money for transit- but NOT both!
Ford was a supporter of subways because they are the real choice of people who actually USE public transit! Subways carry more people and do it faster than an LRT. Subways are not affected by a building fire or a major intersection being blocked by a tanker truck accident. A sniper can climb into a tower and blast away and the surface route LRT will close down but the subway will continue to RUN!

And what good are all those expensive Metrolinx planners? The `subway to nowhere`-that would be the Sheppard line with its three stations- carried twice as many people as its planners expected in its first year of operation and continues to carry more people than expected- so FIRE all the damned Metrolinx planners, fire the public relations twits, fire the advertising dorks sucking up public money to tell people they are stuck in traffic and use the money saved to begin building something- like put another station (or THREE!) on the subway to nowhere as a start!!!!

And somebody should point out to the twits at Silly Hall that the best way to get people out of their cars and onto public transit is to build a flexible and reliable system- currently one problem shuts down large sections of the existing TTC system and leaves people standing in cold and rain or snow for hours waiting for a TTC response (shuttle buses) that are VERY slow coming due to the system already running over its limit. A car offers alternates-one road blocked? No problem-switch to another road-the new TTC system that is to be built MUST offer more flexibility and alternate routes AND greater reliability or people will stick with their cars! AND they will curse city hall while waiting in a traffic jam!