What are the chances Alberta will get a new pipeline?

captain morgan

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what are you talking about? The fuel efficiency of semis has increased by one mile per gallon in 40 plus years.

volvo just invented a truck that increases fuel efficiency by 6 miles per gallon. That is 240 years worth of progress.

BTW if you were to have looked into this Volvo truck you would understand that improving the efficiency of the internal combustion engine is only one aspect of the technology.

They reduced the weight of the truck by something like 3,000 lbs by using things like carbon fiber.

They made tremendous advances in aerodynamic design - I think they are saying that you can retrofit one of their non hybrid engine trucks with the new bumper/front end and get a 30% gain in efficiency.

You are so fixated on arguing about gas and oil.

Fascinating... Really

It still needs diesel
 

JLM

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Vehicles have been becoming more and more fuel efficient ever since Henry Ford started producing them and despite your need to convince yourself that oil is in decline, major producers like OPEC (who are all behind renewables btw) have stated that it will be decades before EVs and whatnot make a dent.

.... this isn't about what side of the ideological fence you sit on, it's about reality. So many folks have made the same statements as yourself, and these very same people remain tied to oil despite the option to disassociate.

In the end, it's all about economic options and that seems to be the common denominator that we all share


There will be more oil used per year on the planet 50 years from now than there is now!
 

captain morgan

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YOU take denial to new level.

I believe you and I are done.

Of course you're done on this topic, considering that your ongoing assessments of the decline of hydrocarbons and BC not needing, or wanting (AB) oil is founded on a technological advancement from Volvo that deems hydrocarbons absolutely necessary for it's next generation of heavy haul equipment.

Moreover, I can't help but laugh at the denial comment, not only considering the above, but also the reality that your present reality and lifestyle are completely connected to the oil/gas that you so desperately want to believe you don't need or use.

Apply just a smidgen of critical thinking on this file and maybe, just maybe you'll be in a position to something resembling an intelligible exchange
 

captain morgan

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But not likely.

It's really too bad.

The writing is on the wall re: oil/gas becoming obsolete (relative to how we use it today), so it's not a question of if but a question of when.

In the meantime, identifying the hurdles and bottlenecks of new tech, processes, etc is the challenge at hand... Pretending that this is a quick and painless transition is a fools errand at best
 

Tecumsehsbones

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It's really too bad.

The writing is on the wall re: oil/gas becoming obsolete (relative to how we use it today), so it's not a question of if but a question of when.

In the meantime, identifying the hurdles and bottlenecks of new tech, processes, etc is the challenge at hand... Pretending that this is a quick and painless transition is a fools errand at best

Roger that. And in addition, there is always the politics of it. By comparison, the technical aspects are a piece of piss.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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God help the poor schmuck that delivers a solution that cuts into the tax income of gvt.

Perhaps, but God sure won't help the poor schmuck that delivers a solution that cuts into the profits of large corporations or rich people.

Stop the distribution of welfare cheques.

Good idea. Make them bums come pick up their welfare checks.
 

taxslave

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And still compared to horses as well how much Horse power does your vehicle produce? :)
It doesn't drive. Or take a bus. Bad for the environment you know.

Oil in the ground should probably stay there. <<<<<

Alberta's problem - and let's be honest this is all about Alberta's problem - is that oil and gas are in decline.

While it makes sense to Alberta to keep selling it as long as they can - BC will do the same with theirs - as a long term investment oil and gas are not what you want to get into.

Renewables and alternatives are the future.

SO it is just Canadian oil you are against. What about imported oil from those hotbeds of democracy like Nigeria and Venesuala?

So you find out that semi truck gas mileage has just doubled (plus) over night and that's your question?

I have no idea about the hauling capacity of trucks in 1973 versus 2017. But I know Volvo makes the best truck on the road and that they just body slammed every other maker on eEarth.

Haven't much experience with tucks do you? Sterling quality cab with an expensive and cranky engine.

Yes tractor trailer mileage improved by almost one mile per gallon between 1973 and last week.

Every tractor trailer in North America being 70% more fuel efficient is nothing - is that your considered opinion?

And you still neglected the increase in load capacity.
 

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How many K lbs on 32 wheels? as in super "B" and triple axle Tractor
CF used to run C trains between Edmonton and Calgary on Sundays. They had a special license. This was the 70s so I don't know if they can still do that.