The Ontario Government wants to sell pot

[AMKiller]

In your opinion. I'm about as close to a teetotaler (drank two beer in four years) as you can get. The only controls I care about is how my tax money gets squandered and the safety and well being of my family. You have to be careful not to "tar everyone with the same brush".

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I totally agree with that. The problems lie with the other 5 or 10%.

But you aren't a teetotaler. Teetotalers never drink in their life, they don't do drugs, ever, and never even smoked a cigarette, they NEED to stay in control. I'm not talking about recovering alcoholics either but of people that have never touched any of the things I listed. Donald Trump, Ted Nugent, people like these two. You're a moderate drinker I was referring to.

Muslim men are control freaks. They don't drink, hell, they need their women dressed in shower curtains as to control their sexual urges.

 

[petros]

Tax revenues.... Government is scaring away big-pay jobs and minimum wage taxes don't allow them to live in the style to which they've become accustomed

It's not tax revenues that will boost coffers, it's the reduction of the cost of enforcement and courts for busting somebody with minor possession potentially killing careers, relationships and personal/social integrity.

Health care costs will also drop as opiate addiction seem to drop in US states that have legalized.

 

[ZulFiqar786]

Temperance is about being in control of your own person. Such control is a good thing. Alcoholism is a huge social and economic burden. We need to gradually root out alcoholism from society through a precise program.

 

[pgs]

Temperance is about being in control of your own person. Such control is a good thing. Alcoholism is a huge social and economic burden. We need to gradually root out alcoholism from society through a precise program.

Which is why all the rich Saudi's leave the country to do their drinking . The precise program is so effective .

 

[taxslave]

That’s not really my question. It is: Since you admit that marijuana isn’t exactly a positive thing, especially when used for recreation, then why is there such a big movement to legalize it? To argue that there are more dangerous things out there (which I acknowledge) like alcohol and tobacco, so why should pot be outlawed, it would be more rational to say that since pot is outlawed, why not outlaw tobacco and alcohol too, since the latter are more dangerous than the former? Are we trying to make a better society or a worse one? You rationally agree that society would be better if no one smoked pot, if there simply wasn’t a demand for it. So at the very least you should argue that pot isn’t a good thing, and there should be an educational effort by the government to educate society and discourage them from not smoking pot, beginning in elementary school (like there is such an educational effort against drugs and alcohol in general). It seems to be that those who are part of the free cannabis movement are themselves pot smokers who simply want their bad habit to be legalized. They don’t care about anything else, it is the single most important issue for them, which makes people like me suspect that the movement to legalize pot doesn’t have any rational or objective underline basis.

Who is claiming pot isn't a positive thing? Other than those that have a vested interest in keeping it illegal? Or the ones with zero knowledge of the subject?

 

[DaSleeper]

I'm just hoping that they sell it in some form that I don't have to smoke to help me with insomnia.....

 

[AMKiller]

Temperance is about being in control of your own person. Such control is a good thing. Alcoholism is a huge social and economic burden. We need to gradually root out alcoholism from society through a precise program.

Not everyone that drinks is an alcoholic.

The problem with control freaks is they want to control everybody else.

Talk about social engineering.

 

[Nanoose]

I'm just hoping that they sell it in some form that I don't have to smoke to help me with insomnia.....

For mild insomnia all you need is some stock and stems from a cannabis plant then boil them up and make a tea - it would cost you next to nothing to make but I bet if the government made and sold it - it would be $6 a mug. The benefits of cannabis aren't totally in how it's consumed it's also in the strain. There are millions of strains - some work better for controlling pain others work better for insomnia and so on and so on. If you google - "Cannabis + Strain + Insomnia" you will probably find what stain would help you sleep. Cheers and happy weekend!

 

[ZulFiqar786]

Who is claiming pot isn't a positive thing? Other than those that have a vested interest in keeping it illegal? Or the ones with zero knowledge of the subject?

What is the vested interest in keeping it illegal? I only know of vested interest to make it legal. Marijuana is addictive, that much we can agree on, and additionally that it causes diminishing of critical skills related to attention, memory and learning. Students who use marijuana have lower grades and are less likely to get into college than non-smokers. What is your answer to this? And can you tell me one benefit of casually smoking pot (not those who use it purely for medicinal purpose)?

 

[JLM]

Temperance is about being in control of your own person. Such control is a good thing. Alcoholism is a huge social and economic burden. We need to gradually root out alcoholism from society through a precise program.

It will never happen!

 

[ZulFiqar786]

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It will never happen!

It most definitely will.

 

[lone wolf]

Not as long as it's a revenue stream....

 

[ZulFiqar786]

Not as long as it's a revenue stream....

Education changes everything, despite the huge marketing campaign of the industry. Tobacco use has significantly declined in Canada and the US. Unfortunately it has exploded in places like China, South Korea, Russia, Eastern and Southern Europe. This is because education program is absent in such parts of the world to persuade young people that smoking isn’t “cool”. A similar education program aimed at alcohol will significantly reduce the rate here too, to the point that drinking will become a major social taboo associated with the gutter trash.

 

[pgs]

It most definitely will.

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Not until there are more of you , and we will undoubtedly wake up before that happens .

 

[lone wolf]

Education changes everything, despite the huge marketing campaign of the industry. Tobacco use has significantly declined in Canada and the US. Unfortunately it has exploded in places like China, South Korea, Russia, Eastern and Southern Europe. This is because education program is absent in such parts of the world to persuade young people that smoking isn’t “cool”. A similar education program aimed at alcohol will significantly reduce the rate here too, to the point that drinking will become a major social taboo associated with the gutter trash.

To whom goes the honour of "educating"?

 

[AMKiller]

It most definitely will.

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When? When you Muslims become the majority in Canada? And you say you aren't here to change Canada.

I don't use myself but, Steve Jobs, Carl Sagan, Seth Mcfarlane, Neil Degrasse-Tyson, Bill Gates, Barack Obama, Bob Marley, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Alexander Dumas, Herodotus, Morgan Freeman, Stephen King, Jimi Hendrix and Shakespeare to name just a few, all used marijuana and they all have achieved some form of greatness.

Muslims haven't done much to advance mankind, if anything, in the last thousand years. You guys need marijuana more than anyone.

Education changes everything, despite the huge marketing campaign of the industry. Tobacco use has significantly declined in Canada and the US. Unfortunately it has exploded in places like China, South Korea, Russia, Eastern and Southern Europe. This is because education program is absent in such parts of the world to persuade young people that smoking isn’t “cool”. A similar education program aimed at alcohol will significantly reduce the rate here too, to the point that drinking will become a major social taboo associated with the gutter trash.

Egyptians are huge chain smokers. I went there in 2009.

Not until there are more of you , and we will undoubtedly wake up before that happens .

It can't come soon enough.

Education changes everything, despite the huge marketing campaign of the industry. Tobacco use has significantly declined in Canada and the US. Unfortunately it has exploded in places like China, South Korea, Russia, Eastern and Southern Europe. This is because education program is absent in such parts of the world to persuade young people that smoking isn’t “cool”. A similar education program aimed at alcohol will significantly reduce the rate here too, to the point that drinking will become a major social taboo associated with the gutter trash.

Muslims don't have to take anything to be gutter trash.

To whom goes the honour of "educating"?

Muslims of course.

They can't educate themselves but they want to educate others. They are control freaks.

 

[Mowich]

A similar education program aimed at alcohol will significantly reduce the rate here too, to the point that drinking will become a major social taboo associated with the gutter trash.

A similar education program will never ever see the light of day in Canadian schools. Prohibition is the least effective way of trying to change people's minds and habits and generally has exactly the opposite effect.

BTW, are you related to or know self-same?

 

[lone wolf]

Seems rather coincidental that Selfsame walks the plank and this one starts up

 

[petros]

For mild insomnia all you need is some stock and stems from a cannabis plant then boil them up and make a tea - it would cost you next to nothing to make but I bet if the government made and sold it - it would be $6 a mug. The benefits of cannabis aren't totally in how it's consumed it's also in the strain. There are millions of strains - some work better for controlling pain others work better for insomnia and so on and so on. If you google - "Cannabis + Strain + Insomnia" you will probably find what stain would help you sleep. Cheers and happy weekend!

Tea doesn't work. THC isn't water soluble. If it were it would wash away in the rain.

 

[Nanoose]

Tea doesn't work. THC isn't water soluble. If it were it would wash away in the rain.

Oh I don't know about that - I often ease the pain of arthritis by drinking stem tea so i must be getting THC in the boiling. Cheers and happy weekend!