Trump America : 200 days Plus......

White_Unifier

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Looks like there is still an obsession with Trump! :) :)




Sorry, I don't quite follow. Were the lives then, 5 times as important as the lives today?

I think he means that the overall population was smaller then, so he was putting the percentage of the population into perspective.
 

EagleSmack

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Either way, it was not only shattering to the country (especially the South, which is only fair), it was also the end of war for fun and the start of bloodbaths.

All those men joining the US Army and CSA before the war is over. Both sides marching off to Manassas for the first and many thinking it would be the last battle of the war and they'd be home for Christmas.
 

taxslave

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That it does. The true liberals as well.

I'm somewhere between the two. Fiscally conservative but fairly liberal on social policy. The main thing. Is that I do a lot of volunteer work in my community instead of expecting the government to do it all for us.

Putting up a statue, taking it down or leaving it up creates historical memory. Before the statue there was no monument there that imposed an interpretation of history. When that statue was put up it commemorated a historical event, and yet would that have been "1984ish?" Why are these Confederate generals and politicians depicted in a positive way and not hanging for treason? Let's not pretend that commemorating Confederate leader is historically neutral. It ain't.

The war between the states was about a lot more than slavery.
 

taxslave

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Democrats move to formally censure Trump over Charlottesville

Democrats move to censure Trump for spreading blame to "both sides" for Charlottesville | McClatchy Washington Bureau


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new territory for the US. Dealing with a mentally unfit POTUS. and his fanatical followers.

Clean-Up on Aisle Trump’: President Reverses Course on Neo-Nazis, Slams the ‘Alt-Left’

‘Clean-Up on Aisle Trump’: President Reverses Course on Neo-Nazis, Slams the ‘Alt-Left’


Clean up Isle Trump is becoming a recurrent phrase.

I find it all hugely entertaining.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Who levied war on the United States, the Constitutional definition of treason.

Yeah, I've heard the argument before. It gets you nowhere. Either the Rebs were rebels and traitors, in which case we had every right to kill them, or they were entitled to withdraw from the United States, in which case they made war on the United States by firing on Fort Sumter, and we had every right to kill them.

Nice try. Let's hear your defence of the Nazis.
 

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Who levied war on the United States, the Constitutional definition of treason.

Yeah, I've heard the argument before. It gets you nowhere. Either the Rebs were rebels and traitors, in which case we had every right to kill them, or they were entitled to withdraw from the United States, in which case they made war on the United States by firing on Fort Sumter, and we had every right to kill them.

Nice try. Let's hear your defence of the Nazis.
Regardless . At the time the south thought they had to go to war , they did and lost . If they hadn't lost this conversation would not be happening .Trying to erase history will not change it . Btw unlike you I am defending no position , and am just commenting on forum . In 1939 many people thought the Nazi's were the next best thing to sliced bread .
 

EagleSmack

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The Union forever! Hurrah, boys, hurrah!
Down with the traitors, up with the stars;
While we rally round the flag, boys, we rally once again,
Shouting the battle cry of freedom!
 

Curious Cdn

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America Diminished and Dismissed:

Charlottesville violence: America - diminished and dismissed - BBC News

"American prides itself on being centrist, on not having the European tendency of flirting with extremist groups. Respected veteran political commentators have often told me that the US always gravitates to the centre ground. It sure didn't look like that in Charlottesville - ask Germany, or Italy, or Spain.

And if America is going to become just another country, albeit with a lot more weapons, no wonder the world is revising its opinion.

Dismissive.

The degree to which Americans talk about themselves as a special, unique country has often struck me as a little grandiose. You don't hear the French, or Brits, or Australians talk about themselves that way - though they may well feel it."
 

Ocean Breeze

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Report: Trump’s Temper Is Behind Charlottesville Remarks, Advisers Say


Report: Trump

Sounds about right. Imagine electing a person with emotional issues into the highest office of the land.

Prognosis: highly questionable.
 

Bar Sinister

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The fact is the whole problem was started by revisionists that took down the statue of an important figure in American history.

We don't always put up statues to important people in history. There are no statues of Hitler or Mussolini anywhere in Europe so far as I know. The problem with statues of former Confederate generals is that they were the South's way of saying "Our cause was just," which it manifestly wasn't, and they also served as reminders that the racist philosophy that these men fought for was still alive.
 

justlooking

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Emotionally unstable and holding the key to the nuclear codes.

Reassuring.


Yeah, did you see the way he lit the fug out of those damn Norkies ?
Man, dey be just a smoking pile of ash now.

Trump got the Norks to back down and slink away. Without a shot fired.
Real war monger. :roll:

or Mussolini anywhere in Europe so far as I know.

I know a couple. They are well hidden.