What's Trump Done Now?
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I don't like ours either. Proportional is the way to go, preferably the Swedish system of proportional.
Sorry, the entire idea of the Electoral College was to prevent any clearly dangerous or utterly stupid candidate from being chosen. Clearly that did not happen in the 2016 election.
Wrong. The idea of the Electoral College was because the Constitution dictates that the President is elected by the states. Each state legislature may choose electors any way it likes. No popular election needed.
It works so well that they even came up with two Presidents, one time ...Jeff Davis and Abe Lincoln.
That still does not detract from the fact that the Electoral college was originally created because the founders of US democracy did not entirely trust the masses to make intelligent choices.
Here is a quote from the following article:
The reason that the Constitution calls for this extra layer, rather than just providing for the direct election of the president, is that most of the nation’s founders were actually rather afraid of democracy. James Madison worried about what he called “factions,” which he defined as groups of citizens who have a common interest in some proposal that would either violate the rights of other citizens or would harm the nation as a whole. Madison’s fear – which Alexis de Tocqueville later dubbed “the tyranny of the majority” – was that a faction could grow to encompass more than 50 percent of the population, at which point it could “sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens.” Madison has a solution for tyranny of the majority: “A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”The Reason for the Electoral College
The Reason for the Electoral College - FactCheck.org
Your article is wrong. Read the Constitution, Article II, section 1, clause 1.
I'm not beating on you, most Americans don't understand this. The history of it is that the U.S. was originally a loose confederation of sovereign states, like the EU. There are no "national elections" in the U.S., only state elections. That's why no Senate or Congressional districts cross state lines. In the debacle of the 2000 Bush/Gore election, when all the wrangling was going on over recounts in Florida, the state legislature (Republican dominated) threatened to simply ignore the election and send the Republican electors to the Electoral College if the recount went to Gore. And they could have done so.
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Probably still a little early to jump to that conclusion. He may well turn out to be either the worst or best president the U.S. has had or more likely somewhere in between! Nixon or Harding have possibly got worst place sewn up depending on who you talk to, and Lincoln the best! It's still early days.
You don't like it only because your candidates can never get elected.
And you love PR only because you have no experience with it.
Sure it did, it stopped Hillary from being elected.
Stupid enough she ran a campaign bad enough to lose to Trump.
Not a mark of intelligence.
Stupid enough to not prevent a lying cheater from stealing an election by using Russian hackers and financing.
Of course he doesn't have proof.
Never underestimate the alt-left from doubling down on stupidity.
Never underestimate the alt-left from doubling down on stupidity.
Any political position that begins with "alt-" or "far" necessarily depends on stupidity. And laziness.
She did not lose because she lacks intelligence.( far from it) When it comes to intelligence Trump does not hold a candle to her. She lost because of what was dumped via Wikileaks and then Comey's bumbling stupidity..... Not to mention The Russian factor. She was better prepared , qualified for the job by a long shot. Trump's "win" will always be under question..........and it has nothing to do with machines etc. The group that voted for him were swayed by Wikileaks revelations and Comeys investigative non findings.
It is astonishing to consider that any group would support someone who is as negative , degrading , nasty, belligerent, tactless, uninformed,boorish, biased, self centered, and bellicose as trump is.
Perhaps this is where * what& America is now. He just might represent the REAL America..........and all its warts........visible and hidden now.
what is astounding is just how many of the extremist groups exist and are surfacing now. Seems they have been gurgling under the surface all along and a shyster like Trump "spoke" to them and they emerged from their dark zone.
Well, today he "disbanded" his business advisory councils.
That's Trumpese for "they all quit in disgust, so I DISBANDED THEM! It was yooge!"
Yeah, let's run the government like a business. Walk away from the Klan supporter. He's bad for business.
And hey! Turns out the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff just came out against white supremacist scum like the ones supporting the Nazis and Klan on this board.
Guess Trump's down to Miller and Bannon as playmates now. Maybe he'll pardon Fields.
That's Trumpese for "they all quit in disgust, so I DISBANDED THEM! It was yooge!"
Yeah, let's run the government like a business. Walk away from the Klan supporter. He's bad for business.
And hey! Turns out the entire Joint Chiefs of Staff just came out against white supremacist scum like the ones supporting the Nazis and Klan on this board.
Guess Trump's down to Miller and Bannon as playmates now. Maybe he'll pardon Fields.
