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Tecumsehsbones

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The court of appeals with jurisdiction over the District of Columbia just held that D.C.'s "reasonable cause" requirement for obtaining a concealed carry permit is unConstitutional.
 

Colpy

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Really? Only just now? They're quite late. Leave it to the damn Venezuelans to screw up such a basic step in establishing dictatorship.

:) Actually, the article is from 2012.

Nobody beats the socialists when it comes to following the basic step(s) in establishing dictatorship.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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:) Actually, the article is from 2012.

Nobody beats the socialists when it comes to following the basic step(s) in establishing dictatorship.
I know. I would've expected Chavez to do it about 30 seconds after he took over.

Poor Maduro. Now he has to work extra-hard cuz Chavez skipped one of the basics.
 

Bar Sinister

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:) Actually, the article is from 2012.

Nobody beats the socialists when it comes to following the basic step(s) in establishing dictatorship.


Come on, Colpy. You can do better than that. In the last fifty years fewer than 20 twenty nations (and that is stretching it to the maximum) were led by communist governments. During the same time period over a 50 nations were governed by right wing dictatorships, including most of Africa, South America, Central America, and multiple nations in Asia. So it would appear that in terms of establishing dictatorships right wing governments are much more the norm.
 

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Come on, Colpy. You can do better than that. In the last fifty years fewer than 20 twenty nations (and that is stretching it to the maximum) were led by communist governments. During the same time period over a 50 nations were governed by right wing dictatorships, including most of Africa, South America, Central America, and multiple nations in Asia. So it would appear that in terms of establishing dictatorships right wing governments are much more the norm.
Do you have references?
 

JamesBondo

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Yes it it called 20th Century history. Stop asking others to do your work and look it up. I'll help you out, Google: Cold War

So you cant or wont support your assertions with references? Not cool but that is your decision. I'll respect it.

Maybe you could list the countries for me? You must have been able to do that when you counted them.
 

Bar Sinister

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So you cant or wont support your assertions with references? Not cool but that is your decision. I'll respect it.

Maybe you could list the countries for me? You must have been able to do that when you counted them.

Tell you what lazy bones - prove I'm wrong. If you can't or are too lazy to do so then shut up.
 

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Come on, Colpy. You can do better than that. In the last fifty years fewer than 20 twenty nations (and that is stretching it to the maximum) were led by communist governments. During the same time period over a 50 nations were governed by right wing dictatorships, including most of Africa, South America, Central America, and multiple nations in Asia. So it would appear that in terms of establishing dictatorships right wing governments are much more the norm.
So there's two choices there, you can be led by someone who doesn't know what the f**k he is doing but is benevolent or someone who knows what he's doing but is a dictator. :) :) :)
 

JamesBondo

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Tell you what lazy bones - prove I'm wrong. If you can't or are too lazy to do so then shut up.


In my opinion, your assertions are unbelievable enough that im not going to give it credit and im not going to prove it wrong

Why? A short lesson in constructive debating:

It is not my responsibility to support your assertions.

I recommend that you moderate your assertions until they are believable, then people might believe them even when they are not supported

If your assertion was believable( with or without support), it would be up to me or someone else to bring forward new assertions that is more believable than your assertions. I feel this step is unecessary for assertions that are NOT believable.

In this case, you bring forward an assertion of 20 countries.... and 50 countriess.... At first, it sounded very believeable. But thats a pretty long list of countries for you to be counting on your toes or fingers. Without you typing a list or citing a reference that provides a list, i just dont believe you, and i doubt many others will.

So good luck with that.

So there's two choices there, you can be led by someone who doesn't know what the f**k he is doing but is benevolent or someone who knows what he's doing but is a dictator. :) :) :)

The best countries are the ones in the middle. Their quality of life comes from right wing concepts of individual freedoms, and their safety nets come from left wing concepts that restrict those freedoms. If you are the kind of person that looks at the government to solve your problems, then you probably want to give away more of your freedoms.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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so unreasonable cause is now allowed?
I think the DC government went over the line when it rejected "I rob liquor stores, so I need a gun" as reasonable cause.

I mean, what could possibly be more reasonable?

I hate it when a bunch of bureaucrats try to deny a man the tools of his trade.
 

Colpy

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Come on, Colpy. You can do better than that. In the last fifty years fewer than 20 twenty nations (and that is stretching it to the maximum) were led by communist governments. During the same time period over a 50 nations were governed by right wing dictatorships, including most of Africa, South America, Central America, and multiple nations in Asia. So it would appear that in terms of establishing dictatorships right wing governments are much more the norm.

You have something of a point.

When you move too far to the right, or too far to the left, you wind up in the same place.

The current problem, however, is left-wing..........Venezuela.

All dictatorships seek to disarm the people. It is the canary in the coal mine......when they start restricting your right to keep arms to an unreasonable level, you're on the road to Hell.