How Would You Do Health Care?

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm on record in lots of threads saying that, in the U.S., health care should be done by the states. So what would I want my state to do?

1. Employer/individual mandate - I'd require everybody to have insurance, and every employer to provide it.

2. Public option - I'd have a public option insurance provided by the government at cost. Australia shows that the public option leaves about 30% of the people covered by private companies, so there is room for private insurance even in public-option systems.

3. Negotiated schedule of charges - Like Japan, I would have representatives of the government, the medical industry, and the insurance industry meet every two or three years to hammer out a list of standard charges for services.

4. No double-billing - I'd require doctors to look at the patient's record. If a doctor ordered a test that had already been done recently, the test would not be paid for.

5. Medicaid for the indigent - those who could not afford the public option would be provided the public option on an income-based sliding scale.

That's my idea of the best health-care system. How bout y'all? Canadians too. Let's say the government announced it was shutting down national health care, and each province was to set up its own system. What would you want?

 

[DaSleeper]

I'm on record in lots of threads saying that, in the U.S., health care should be done by the states. So what would I want my state to do?

1. Employer/individual mandate - I'd require everybody to have insurance, and every employer to provide it.

2. Public option - I'd have a public option insurance provided by the government at cost. Australia shows that the public option leaves about 30% of the people covered by private companies, so there is room for private insurance even in public-option systems.

3. Negotiated schedule of charges - Like Japan, I would have representatives of the government, the medical industry, and the insurance industry meet every two or three years to hammer out a list of standard charges for services.

4. No double-billing - I'd require doctors to look at the patient's record. If a doctor ordered a test that had already been done recently, the test would not be paid for.

5. Medicaid for the indigent - those who could not afford the public option would be provided the public option on an income-based sliding scale.

That's my idea of the best health-care system. How bout y'all? Canadians too. Let's say the government announced it was shutting down national health care, and each province was to set up its own system. What would you want?

Each province already have their own system....Paid for by provincial tax...

https://www.ontario.ca/page/apply-ohip-and-get-health-card

 

[JLM]

Double/triple premiums for those who do dangerous life styles.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Double/triple premiums for those who do dangerous life styles.

The point of the thread was actually more asking people to think than inviting them to drag out their pet hate, but thanks for your contribution.

 

[Walter]

Double/triple premiums for those who do dangerous life styles.

Let the market make that decision.

Let the market make all decisions just like buying groceries or renting a hotel room.

Each province already have their own system....Paid for by provincial tax...

https://www.ontario.ca/page/apply-ohip-and-get-health-card

And each province has long wait times for essential health services.

 

[JLM]

The point of the thread was actually more asking people to think than inviting them to drag out their pet hate, but thanks for your contribution.

And what would be my pet hate?

 

[Corduroy]

The point of the thread was actually more asking people to think than inviting them to drag out their pet hate

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That should SO be your avatar. And maybe your driving license photo.

 

[Bar Sinister]

As has already been pointed out in Canada health care in under provincial jurisdiction. The federal government only funds it at about 15% and merely provides guidelines for the implementation of the program. As a result health care benefits vary slightly from province to province. The only constant is that every Canadian has access to basic health coverage such as checkups, and basic and emergency hospital services in every province.

If I was in charge I would attempt to implement more nation wide services such as pharmacare and adding dental, eye, and hearing services to the program.

 

[MHz]

A prayer book, bottle of 3% peroxide and a burial manual. About $1/ person per month if they are really sick. The books can be used by the next victim.

That should SO be your avatar. And maybe your driving license photo.

One beanbag and out for the count. This ain't no rodeo. Now if she just came out of a barrel the rodeo bulls have been tossing around I would be dropping the bean bag and running, like real fast.

 

[Danbones]

Either a person works for government or healthcare; NEVER both at anytime - a permanent ban.
No government pension money can be invested in health care.
All basic education must be funded by the government only.


All safety efficacy studies must be done by third parties.
Make everyone who practices somewhat liable for mistakes...

 

[MHz]

Who is the 'patient'?? Live and learn works just fine, bit messy at first but the final product is as polished as it gets.
It goes all the way to the top each and every time as it is one head and many arms when out global culture is looked at. Constant chaos by design is the program. Wars are slower than starvation, and a lot more expensive and great for inventing lots of new things. Guess has their finger on all the triggers?? IMO, same old, same old and they are so controlled they cannot alter a plan that was made 140 years ago. That is a flaw rather than being an asset. The Jews solution is in their own books. God was always picking them up and knocking them back down again and each and every time there was a reason behind what we would call madness. One 'civil matter over a mistress' caused many 100,000's of lives and in the end the whole thing is about having a specific number that will be resurrected when Eze:37 goes from being prophecy to being based in reality as advertised.

3rd part would be the 'watchdogs of old' University students teamed with retiring people from the same field and they do re-post for the public about what they are getting for their money. Today you only need State or Federal governments, you do not need both and the one left can be a lot smaller thanks to having things that use electricity.

How about a free trip to the Last Ride Water Park and Crematorium for anybody depressed after the quit working? Add a lot of others who can get a free ticket called 'Fuk It, I'm out'. The good news there are dozens of rides to choose from and signing a waiver gets you through the gates. Safety equipment is available at wholesale prices at the gift shop of course. Rocket sleds running AA/Fueler G-Forces and beyond several times an hour day in and day out. Even have a pic taken at the right moment for a few $$ more.

 

[TenPenny]

Double/triple premiums for those who do dangerous life styles.

Who defines dangerous life styles? Skateboarding? Riding a motorcycle? Eating white bread? Swimming within an hour of eating?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Who defines dangerous life styles? Skateboarding? Riding a motorcycle? Eating white bread? Swimming within an hour of eating?

Don't matter. We've already seen that JLM attributes all his problems to "them." Who needs a definition when you've got such a great excuse for your many and manifest failures?

 

[taxslave]

I'm on record in lots of threads saying that, in the U.S., health care should be done by the states. So what would I want my state to do?

1. Employer/individual mandate - I'd require everybody to have insurance, and every employer to provide it.

2. Public option - I'd have a public option insurance provided by the government at cost. Australia shows that the public option leaves about 30% of the people covered by private companies, so there is room for private insurance even in public-option systems.

3. Negotiated schedule of charges - Like Japan, I would have representatives of the government, the medical industry, and the insurance industry meet every two or three years to hammer out a list of standard charges for services.

4. No double-billing - I'd require doctors to look at the patient's record. If a doctor ordered a test that had already been done recently, the test would not be paid for.

5. Medicaid for the indigent - those who could not afford the public option would be provided the public option on an income-based sliding scale.

That's my idea of the best health-care system. How bout y'all? Canadians too. Let's say the government announced it was shutting down national health care, and each province was to set up its own system. What would you want?

What about a national mandate on what services must be provided?
I would make it so that hospitals can be private as well as government run ones so that those that can afford it or have insurance can get treatment without waiting in line as happens with our public system.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

What about a national mandate on what services must be provided?

Works for me.

I would make it so that hospitals can be private as well as government run ones so that those that can afford it or have insurance can get treatment without waiting in line as happens with our public system.

Yep. Japan's system, which is much like I described, has led to a situtation where 90% of all hospitals are privately owned, and 95% of all doctors are privately employed. So much for "national health care is SOSHULISM!"

 

[MHz]

Who defines dangerous life styles? Skateboarding? Riding a motorcycle? Eating white bread? Swimming within an hour of eating?

All of the above and many more ways. Daredevils should get 50% off as they live 50% shorter lives. Almost racist in nature.

 

[darkbeaver]

Public education from the first year of school, health and medicine should be mandatory same as language and math.

 

[JLM]

As has already been pointed out in Canada health care in under provincial jurisdiction. The federal government only funds it at about 15% and merely provides guidelines for the implementation of the program. As a result health care benefits vary slightly from province to province. The only constant is that every Canadian has access to basic health coverage such as checkups, and basic and emergency hospital services in every province.

If I was in charge I would attempt to implement more nation wide services such as pharmacare and adding dental, eye, and hearing services to the program.

And increase our taxes!

 

[Highball]

Give every citizen who wishes to participate a full care coverage policy just like the Congress and the Administration enjoy. At an affordable cost AND allow those who choose not to participate the right to do so BUT to join later if they wish. Why not one policy for all?