Consevative Party leadership contest

Curious Cdn

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Yes that was my point. Particularly since you still had the bracelet on.

When they came out with the new OHIP card I was told the reason for it was they could just swipe it and all info would be on the Bar Code and it would open up your file. But both the Bar Code and Mag Stripe are just to verify if the card is legit......

It does not offer your info pertaining to visits or your medical history. And while I think it should I was reading that 'privacy concerns' is the issue.....

Yes, "privacy concerns" ... I suppose that with the ease that information can be hacked, these days. it is a legitimate worry. A good portion of the population blah-blahs away on Facebook and Twitter, leaving a permanent record of their very thoughts behind them and any privacy surrendered by smarter health care cards is insignificant compared to be level of surveillance that is already probing us. I would happily trade a bit of my privacy for a more efficient health care system that is sustainable.
 

JamesBondo

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Yes, "privacy concerns" ... I suppose that with the ease that information can be hacked, these days. it is a legitimate worry. A good portion of the population blah-blahs away on Facebook and Twitter, leaving a permanent record of their very thoughts behind them and any privacy surrendered by smarter health care cards is insignificant compared to be level of surveillance that is already probing us. I would happily trade a bit of my privacy for a more efficient health care system that is sustainable.

Do you realize that is almost a direct quote from the communist manifesto?
 

Curious Cdn

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Do you realize that is almost a direct quote from the communist manifesto?

Do you realise that it's way too late? Your personal information is known far and wide. Even these posts are being monitored. Both the public and private sector gather or have gathered every scrap of info about your life, already. Horse left barn. 1960 is gone.

p.s. Show me the quote from the "Communist Manifesto" about having smarter health care cards.
 

JamesBondo

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Do you realise that it's way too late? Your personal information is known far and wide. Even these posts are being monitored. Both the public and private sector gather or have gathered every scrap of info about your life, already. Horse left barn. 1960 is gone.

p.s. Show me the quote from the "Communist Manifesto" about having smarter health care cards.
Its about giving up you rights so that the government can better serve you, silly.
 

JLM

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My experience with private medicine is that wherever possible the service is padded as much as possible. If private health care was actually cheaper then the USA would have the cheapest and most efficient healthcare system in the world instead of the opposite. Another example is dentistry in which as many costs are loaded on to dental procedures as the dentist can get away with. I get my teeth cleaned every year. Just a few years ago it used to cost about $250 for my yearly checkup and teeth cleaning. The last time I went in it coast over $500 and my insurance covered only 80% of it.


80% is pretty generous don't you think? The 20% the patient pays discourages the patient from having frivolous procedures. I realize dentist's charges are formidably high but there is so much overhead and a dentist is required to pay at very minimum 3 other salaries besides his own. Having said that, I found through years of experience, that dental insurance doesn't actually save you any money when you consider the monthly premiums, it just smooths out the payments so you don't get horrendous f**king bills periodically!
 

Musky

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80% is pretty generous don't you think? The 20% the patient pays discourages the patient from having frivolous procedures. I realize dentist's charges are formidably high but there is so much overhead and a dentist is required to pay at very minimum 3 other salaries besides his own. Having said that, I found through years of experience, that dental insurance doesn't actually save you any money when you consider the monthly premiums, it just smooths out the payments so you don't get horrendous f**king bills periodically!

Nope.

20% can be a deterrent to healthcare.

It's all or nothing.
 

Curious Cdn

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Its about giving up you rights so that the government can better serve you, silly.

Too late, silly. Your great grandparents did that back during WWI under the War Measures Act. If anything, the Communists have failed to keep up and stay current. They want to revolutionise a world that disappeared close to a century ago.
 

Bar Sinister

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$5000 per year. you'd be better of with brushing your teeth more often.

It covers several thousand dollars worth of prescriptions as well. Right now I pretty much break even, but it will also cover any further increases and it also gives me $ 5 million travel insurance.
 

tay

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Only the Conservative Party share a convention venue with a cartoon convention........

Anime North is Toronto's largest fan-run Japanese Animation convention. It is a three-day event from May 26-28, 2017 at the Toronto Congress Centre

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/anime-north-2017-tickets-30538203589

 

coldstream

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I watched the speeches last night after largely ignoring the race for the last year.

By far the most impressive was Pierre Lemieux who has gone against the current and stood for traditional values, real marriage, sanctity of life from conception to natural death. He is a fluid and convincing orator who presents an integrated political vision. Brad Trost was also impressive in not capitulating to the post moral zeitgeist.

Alexander Saxton has some innovative ideas consistent with economic nationalism and Steven Blaney some that are consistent with cultural nationalism. Everyone else with the exception of Kellie Lietch was promoting some form of NEO Conservatism.

In essence, that means Free Markets and Trade, globalism and open borders, regressive taxation, government deconstruction, and, paying the most shallow lip service to Social Conservatism. Just enough to hold the demographic but with no intent of implementing any concrete policy.

What is an afterthought and expediency for the majority of the candidates is the most critical issue facing the country. Canada is in the clutches of the talons of the Culture of Death and without a sustainable moral coherence everything else, economically and socially, will fall apart. We are are facing national disintegration.

The worst of the lot is Maxine Bernier, who is expected to win, and his closest contender Andrew Scheer. These are both Stephen Harper CLONES; shills of supranational banks, corporations and agencies. Bernier seems like a major flake. Scheer a conventional Neocon, molded by the corporate Old Boys of the Conservative back rooms.

Neither of these guy has a strong enough independent identity to take advantage of the populist and nationalist rebellions that are rocking the West. Which means they might be surprised by some upstart movement that represent TRUE conservatism rather than the economic LIBERALISM and social LIBERTARIANISM that comprises NeoConservatism.
 

Danbones

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Well written post Coldstream.
What we have is the opposite side of the left/ right circle from centrism where communism meets nazi-ism as fascism
 

Walter

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Only the Conservative Party share a convention venue with a cartoon convention........

Anime North is Toronto's largest fan-run Japanese Animation convention. It is a three-day event from May 26-28, 2017 at the Toronto Congress Centre

https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/anime-north-2017-tickets-30538203589

Right on. Progressives wouldn't know how to have fun because everyone is a victim.

I watched the speeches last night after largely ignoring the race for the last year.

By far the most impressive was Pierre Lemieux who has gone against the current and stood for traditional values, real marriage, sanctity of life from conception to natural death. He is a fluid and convincing orator who presents an integrated political vision. Brad Trost was also impressive in not capitulating to the post moral zeitgeist.

Alexander Saxton has some innovative ideas consistent with economic nationalism and Steven Blaney some that are consistent with cultural nationalism. Everyone else with the exception of Kellie Lietch was promoting some form of NEO Conservatism.

In essence, that means Free Markets and Trade, globalism and open borders, regressive taxation, government deconstruction, and, paying the most shallow lip service to Social Conservatism. Just enough to hold the demographic but with no intent of implementing any concrete policy.

What is an afterthought and expediency for the majority of the candidates is the most critical issue facing the country. Canada is in the clutches of the talons of the Culture of Death and without a sustainable moral coherence everything else, economically and socially, will fall apart. We are are facing national disintegration.

The worst of the lot is Maxine Bernier, who is expected to win, and his closest contender Andrew Scheer. These are both Stephen Harper CLONES; shills of supranational banks, corporations and agencies. Bernier seems like a major flake. Scheer a conventional Neocon, molded by the corporate Old Boys of the Conservative back rooms.

Neither of these guy has a strong enough independent identity to take advantage of the populist and nationalist rebellions that are rocking the West. Which means they might be surprised by some upstart movement that represent TRUE conservatism rather than the economic LIBERALISM and social LIBERTARIANISM that comprises NeoConservatism.
Not what I heard, but everyone listens with their own bias.
 

tay

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Nation awaiting the results






Will Harper be salty if Bernier wins the Conservative leadership today- 9 years to the day since Harper kicked him out of cabinet ?


 

Walter

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Andrew Sheer, on becoming the Conservative leader, takes down all policies from his website.
Why didn't you take a screen shot of his policies?

Sheer was my third choice. First was Leitch and second was Trost.