Canada could be called on for troops in event of war with North Korea

[Murphy]

It's not nonsense! There's an actual picture of a family staring at a fish bowl watching the sea monkey come alive. It' a family! You cannot get any more wholesale than that! And look at the sea monkeys. They're all smiling! So happy to be born and living at your house in a bowl full of water. They even have a little underwater house. That's in the picture too.

Own a bowlful of happiness. So eager to please, they can be trained!

 

[Bar Sinister]

*snicker*

Ok




Canada didn't fight in the War of 1812. You may as well say Australia was victorious.

I know it is a sore point with Americans, especially those who used to claim the US never lost a war, but yes the Yanks did get their asses kicked in Canada in the War of 1812, and claiming that it was not a Canadian victory is like claiming the American Revolution was actually a French victory. So snicker away, loser.

The last battle, Lundy's Lane, had a formation of around 1200 Canadian Militia ... fully trained by that point and they made up roughy a third of the Redcoats that won the day. Just at the very end of the war, though. Had it continue, there would have been more and more Canadians in the fight as that was the plan.

In Lower Canada, the troops under DeSalaberry who routed an American force that outnumbered them about twelve to one, were all French Canadians.

All you had to was say "Boo!" to the Yanks and off they ran, back to Kentuck.

No doubt, the Americans gave each and every one of their defeated soldiers lots of medals, as they still do today.

Don't overlook the fact that many of the British troops stationed in Canada chose to settle in Canada after the war. But don't expect the Americans who hang around CC to believe you. If there is anything Americans are really ignorant of it is their own history.

 

[Murphy]

And it would appear many Canadians are ignorant of it too. The War of 1812 was a British victory.

Upper and Lower Canada were part of Great Britain. This place was a colony. Everyone here was a British subject. Children born here were British by birth. The exception to that were natives, who the British did not consider citizens, but subjects, responsible to the Crown.

The country Canada came into existence in 1867, when the colonies here were made a dominion by British parliament.

The War of 1812 was fought between Britain and the US. Yes, there were local militiamen from Upper Canada. But there were also natives and others who came along for the ride. No Canadians fought in the War of 1812 because there was no such thing as Canadians.

Upper and Lower Canada (colonies) were merged in 1840 to form the province of Canada. In 1812, the colony of Upper Canada formed militias, but they weren't Canadian. They were British. There was no such thing as Canadian citizenship. You were a Brit. The units were made up of locals - most of British origin. They would have been farmers, tradespeople, and local natives.

To state anything different is revisionist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

 

[Curious Cdn]

And it would appear many Canadians are ignorant of it too. The War of 1812 was a British victory.

Upper and Lower Canada were part of Great Britain. This place was a colony. Everyone here was a British subject. Children born here were British by birth. The exception to that were natives, who the British did not consider citizens, but subjects, responsible to the Crown.

The country Canada came into existence in 1867, when the colonies here were made a dominion by British parliament.

The War of 1812 was fought between Britain and the US. Yes, there were local militiamen from Upper Canada. But there were also natives and others who came along for the ride. No Canadians fought in the War of 1812 because there was no such thing as Canadians.

Upper and Lower Canada (colonies) were merged in 1840 to form the province of Canada. In 1812, the colony of Upper Canada formed militias, but they weren't Canadian. They were British. There was no such thing as Canadian citizenship. You were a Brit. The units were made up of locals - most of British origin. They would have been farmers, tradespeople, and local natives.

To state anything different is revisionist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

One group of my Niagara ancestors, who arrived from Pennsylvania thirty years before the US invasions started, did not even speak English. There were a thousand or two others just like them. I don't know how "Brit" they saw themselves but I would guess not very. It wasn't so clear cut and homogenous as you would have it. The War of 1812 started out as a "brothers war" along the Upper Canada frontier and the lines were not clear cut until a series of atrocities were committed (mostly in Upper Canada). You are reciting the Coles Notes version but it wasn't that simple.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I know it is a sore point with Americans, especially those who used to claim the US never lost a war, but yes the Yanks did get their asses kicked in Canada in the War of 1812, and claiming that it was not a Canadian victory is like claiming the American Revolution was actually a French victory. So snicker away, loser.

Canadians also built the pyramids and discovered America.

I think they won the Battle of Hastings, too.

It's a little depressing to discover that other countries' school systems shovel the same sort of chest-thumping, jingoistic shit the American systems do.

Oh, well, makes for obedient little consumers/taxpayers.

 

[Danbones]

Many Canadians came from the area where pyramids are, and came here when there was a land bridge across the bearing straight ( that's when the so called "god", who glaciates the place every so many thousand years, actually split the sea, and made a road to the promised land ), So is quite possible Canadians are descendant from the people who built the real pyramids there dum dum.
I know you communazichristomuzzie ZIONISTS think different from that, but you are WRONG, and provably so.

...and I mean that with all the attached dum dum legalities Mr believer

 

[Colpy]

I know it is a sore point with Americans, especially those who used to claim the US never lost a war, but yes the Yanks did get their asses kicked in Canada in the War of 1812, and claiming that it was not a Canadian victory is like claiming the American Revolution was actually a French victory. So snicker away, loser.



Don't overlook the fact that many of the British troops stationed in Canada chose to settle in Canada after the war. But don't expect the Americans who hang around CC to believe you. If there is anything Americans are really ignorant of it is their own history.

I think the problem here is with phrasing. You said " ....the Yanks did get their asses kicked in Canada in the War of 1812", and that is the simple truth, whether it was British troops, Canadian militia, native warriors or (as usual) a combination of the three, the Americans got spanked in Canada.

The Americans did not get thoroughly spanked in the USA. Obviously.

But the war was essentially a stalemate, and it was fortunate for the Brits they had settled the issue with the Yanks before the disasterous Battle of New Orleans.

And the bit about burning down the White House (which Bar Sinister did not bring up) is simply bullshit. Few, if any of the British troops involved had ever seen Canada, they came straight from Wellington's troops in Europe.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I think the problem here is with phrasing. You said " ....the Yanks did get their asses kicked in Canada in the War of 1812", and that is the simple truth, whether it was British troops, Canadian militia, native warriors or (as usual) a combination of the three, the Americans got spanked in Canada.

The Americans did not get thoroughly spanked in the USA. Obviously.

But the war was essentially a stalemate, and it was fortunate for the Brits they had settled the issue with the Yanks before the disasterous Battle of New Orleans.

And the bit about burning down the White House (which Bar Sinister did not bring up) is simply bullshit. Few, if any of the British troops involved had ever seen Canada, they came straight from Wellington's troops in Europe.

The war also featured six single-ship engagements, five of which the Americans won, to the shock and consternation of the British, who were resting comfortably in the illusion of the invincibility of the Royal Navy. They were practically delirious with relief when in the last engagement of the war HMS Shannon, 38, Capt. Brooke, took USF Chesapeake, 50, Capt. Lawrence commanding.

Tell me, Colpy, what do they teach in Canadian schools were the American objectives in the war? Seeing as how objectives achieved/not achieved would appear to me to be the rational measure of getting one's hindquarters kicked.

To look at another angle, this is what I mean when I talk about some of the bad things Canadians have done in the past and people whimper about how they can't be held responsible for that. If a Canadian can feel an emotional satisfaction over a war that occurred almost two centuries before he was born, isn't it reasonable to expect said Canadian to feel some sort of connection to occurrences in Canadian history that don't look quite so good?

 

[EagleSmack]

I know it is a sore point with Americans, especially those who used to claim the US never lost a war, but yes the Yanks did get their asses kicked in Canada in the War of 1812, and claiming that it was not a Canadian victory is like claiming the American Revolution was actually a French victory. So snicker away, loser.

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No matter how many Canadians tell each other that Canada won the War of 1812 does not change history BarS.

The US Expeditions into Canada were turned back by the British. All British Expeditions into the US were turned back by the US.

Canada did not win anything... Loser! Heck Canadians weren't even involved.

*snicker*

 

[Danbones]

except for the natives, and descendants of

First Nations and Métis Peoples in the War of 1812

First Nations and Métis peoples played a significant role in Canada in the War of 1812. The conflict forced various Indigenous peoples to overcome longstanding differences and unite against a common enemy. It also strained alliances, such as those in the Iroquois (Haudenosaunee) Confederacy in which some branches were allied with American forces.

Most First Nations strategically allied themselves with Great Britain during the war, seeing the British as the lesser of two colonial evils and the group most interested in maintaining traditional territories and trade.
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/first-nations-in-the-war-of-1812/

 

[EagleSmack]

The Americans did not get thoroughly spanked in the USA. Obviously.

Not in the slightest. Even Gen. Ross's expedition that burned Washington got whipped when they tried to do the same thing to Baltimore.

And the bit about burning down the White House (which Bar Sinister did not bring up) is simply bullshit. Few, if any of the British troops involved had ever seen Canada, they came straight from Wellington's troops in Europe.

Another sore spot for Canadian nationalists... the British troops that marched on Washington came straight from the Peninsular Wars in Europe to Bermuda... then were dispatched to the Chesapeake. The fleet did not stop in Canada to pick up imaginary militia.

 

[pgs]

The war also featured six single-ship engagements, five of which the Americans won, to the shock and consternation of the British, who were resting comfortably in the illusion of the invincibility of the Royal Navy. They were practically delirious with relief when in the last engagement of the war HMS Shannon, 38, Capt. Brooke, took USF Chesapeake, 50, Capt. Lawrence commanding.

Tell me, Colpy, what do they teach in Canadian schools were the American objectives in the war? Seeing as how objectives achieved/not achieved would appear to me to be the rational measure of getting one's hindquarters kicked.

To look at another angle, this is what I mean when I talk about some of the bad things Canadians have done in the past and people whimper about how they can't be held responsible for that. If a Canadian can feel an emotional satisfaction over a war that occurred almost two centuries before he was born, isn't it reasonable to expect said Canadian to feel some sort of connection to occurrences in Canadian history that don't look quite so good?

No it was Catholic priests that were all terrible abusers of children in residential schools and it was all their fault . Right Bar ?

 

[EagleSmack]

If a Canadian can feel an emotional satisfaction over a war that occurred almost two centuries before he was born, isn't it reasonable to expect said Canadian to feel some sort of connection to occurrences in Canadian history that don't look quite so good?

Insecure and jealous ones certainly feel emotional satisfaction with the Canadian Militia Myth.

 

[Kreskin]

Canadians also built the pyramids and discovered America.

I think they won the Battle of Hastings, too.

It's a little depressing to discover that other countries' school systems shovel the same sort of chest-thumping, jingoistic shit the American systems do.

Oh, well, makes for obedient little consumers/taxpayers.

Leif Ericson was in Canada before he found America so there is some truth to a Canadian discovering America.

 

[Danbones]

the kensington stone looks like it has been verified

The Kensington Runestone; verified as proof of Scandinavians in Minnesota in 1362
The Kensington Runestone; verified as proof of Scandinavians in Minnesota in 1362

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Leif Ericson was in Canada before he found America so there is some truth to a Canadian discovering America.

I guess by that logic, the Syrian refugees are Canadian too. Seeing as how your premise appears to be "if you are now, or ever have been, on the dirt currently claimed by Canada, you are Canadian."

Not in the slightest. Even Gen. Ross's expedition that burned Washington got whipped when they tried to do the same thing to Baltimore.





Another sore spot for Canadian nationalists... the British troops that marched on Washington came straight from the Peninsular Wars in Europe to Bermuda... then were dispatched to the Chesapeake. The fleet did not stop in Canada to pick up imaginary militia.

Well, to be fair, it could have made an imaginary stop in a non-existent country to pick up imaginary militia.

You really need to do something about this reality habit of yours. Could become an addiction.

 

[EagleSmack]

Well, to be fair, it could have made an imaginary stop in a non-existent country to pick up imaginary militia.

The sad but true part of your post is that what you just said is actually taught in Canadian schools. For real.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The sad but true part of your post is that what you just said is actually taught in Canadian schools. For real.

The client states will subscribe to any fantasy necessary to make them feel like they're in the game.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Canadians also built the pyramids

Yup.

Ponzi was a Canadian!

Makes me proud!

 

[Bar Sinister]

Canadians also built the pyramids and discovered America.

I think they won the Battle of Hastings, too.

It's a little depressing to discover that other countries' school systems shovel the same sort of chest-thumping, jingoistic shit the American systems do.

Oh, well, makes for obedient little consumers/taxpayers.

Actually most of Canada does such a poor job of teaching Canadian history that most Canadians couldn't even tell you what year the war started. But that might be preferable to the chest pounding history taught to American students.

I think the problem here is with phrasing. You said " ....the Yanks did get their asses kicked in Canada in the War of 1812", and that is the simple truth, whether it was British troops, Canadian militia, native warriors or (as usual) a combination of the three, the Americans got spanked in Canada.

The Americans did not get thoroughly spanked in the USA. Obviously.

But the war was essentially a stalemate, and it was fortunate for the Brits they had settled the issue with the Yanks before the disasterous Battle of New Orleans.

And the bit about burning down the White House (which Bar Sinister did not bring up) is simply bullshit. Few, if any of the British troops involved had ever seen Canada, they came straight from Wellington's troops in Europe.

A stalemate would mean that neither side realized its objectives. Canada's objective was to remain unconquered by the USA. I would call that a win for Canada. The American objective was to take over British North America. The Americans failed dismally. I would call that a loss.