BREAKING: US National Security Advisor Resigns over Russian Involvement

TenPenny

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The Trump WH does not believe in the Constitution. I don't know why his supporters don't clue in to this, but they even go on television and say so.


Weird.
 

Cannuck

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The Trump WH does not believe in the Constitution. I don't know why his supporters don't clue in to this, but they even go on television and say so.


Weird.
Trump supporters are cowards. They will willingly give up all their personal freedoms if somebody will protect them
 

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Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. "Finally," they say, "someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!" It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ligence-chairman-says/?utm_term=.c542ee066922


America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14...mitted-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn
 

taxslave

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Since when did the left ever care about facts?

This should give even the most staunch Trump supporter cause for pause. Be prepared to be stunned.


The idiocy you display does tend to give one pause for thought. The vid is just a bunch of poorly edited quotes mostly taken out of context. But accuracy never mattered to lamestream media anyway.
 

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Unelected intelligence analysts work for the president, not the other way around. Far too many Trump critics appear not to care that these intelligence agents leaked highly sensitive information to the press — mostly because Trump critics are pleased with the result. "Finally," they say, "someone took a stand to expose collusion between the Russians and a senior aide to the president!" It is indeed important that someone took such a stand. But it matters greatly who that someone is and how they take their stand. Members of the unelected, unaccountable intelligence community are not the right someone, especially when they target a senior aide to the president by leaking anonymously to newspapers the content of classified phone intercepts, where the unverified, unsubstantiated information can inflict politically fatal damage almost instantaneously.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ligence-chairman-says/?utm_term=.c542ee066922


America's spies anonymously took down Michael Flynn. That is deeply worrying.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/14...mitted-serious-and-wholly-justified-felonies/

Former Obama Officials, Loyalists Waged Secret Campaign to Oust Flynn

Good point about the plethora of leaks flowing from the White House, Loc. Seems like the ship of state has more than a few holes to plug. :p
 

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Good point about the plethora of leaks flowing from the White House, Loc. Seems like the ship of state has more than a few holes to plug. :p
And yet his closest advisers go on TV and tell everybody provable lies and expose their fascist leanings, like that creepy Steve Miller guy. His little outburst was straight out of Hitler's play book. But I can well understand why Locust loves the Trumpster's gang.
 

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The anti-Flynn ‘deep state’ coup – spelling it out in the clearest way possible


The anti-Flynn ‘deep state’ coup – spelling it out in the clearest way possible | The Vineyard of the Saker


Okay, my sense is that a large number of commentators are misunderstanding the nature of what is going on. So, this time, rather than writing an analysis, I will spell it out, ‘talking points’ – style and, hopefully, do a better job about making my point. So, here we go.

  1. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN. Let me repeat that once more. THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!! Please don’t come and tell me that Flynn was wrong on Iran, on Islam or on China. I agree. But,
    ==>>THIS IS NOT ABOUT FLYNN!!!<<==
  2. THIS IS ABOUT POWER. As in, who is boss? Who is number one? Who is the alpha dog? The President or the ‘deep state’? That is what this is all about – showing everybody who is in charge.
  3. FLYNN WAS A SYMBOL. He was the symbol of the entire notion of draining the Washington swamp, which is mostly the 3 letter agencies + Pentagon anyway. Flynn was the guy who dared defy the thought police and be friendly with the Russians. Flynn was the man who wanted to bring the CIA and JCS back under White House control. And Flynn was the guy with contacts with SOCOM and JSOC. Flynn had to be brought down.
  4. FLYNN WAS ALSO A CORNERSTONE. For better or for worse, it is absolutely evident that Flynn was the brain behind Trump’s entire foreign policy. On some stuff Flynn was great (Russia), on some stuff he was okay (Takfiri terrorism), on some stuff he was ridiculous (China) and on some stuff he was terrible (Iran). But that is not what matters here. Listen to Kucinich who clearly says that this is not about Trump or Flynn, but about a coup against the Presidency by the US ‘deep state’. Now that Flynn has been brought down, there is no “Trump foreign policy” left.
  5. FLYNN IS ALSO A DOMINO. Okay, this is crucial, pay attention now. Putin has often been criticized for protecting his friends even when these friends are guilty of wrongdoings. Now let me ask you a simple question: would you rather stick your neck out for Trump or for Putin? Exactly. If Trump was a loyal kind of person he could have called Pence and Flynn to the Oval Office, told Flynn to apologize and told Pence to shut up. But he did nothing of the kind. By accepting Flynn’s “resignation” Trump showed that he does not protect those who fight for him. There will definitely be a domino-effect now as everybody who matters has now understood: Trump is weak, the Neocons got him by the balls, and Trump will leave you hanging when the **** hits the fan.
  6. FLYNN’S DOWNFALL IS A MESSAGE. A message to all those who hate Trump and what Trump represents. And that message is simple: we are back in control and the party is on! Now that Trump has been humiliated and broken, now that he lost his only high-IQ and powerful ally in the White House, the Neocons are the deep state are smelling blood and they will double-down and resume their attack with increased intensity. The next highly symbolic sacrificial victim might be the much-hated Steve Bannon. The bottom line is simple: the hunt is on for anti-deep-state ‘crimethinkers’.
  7. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ABOUT TRUMP’S CHARACTER. That was the big unknown, right? Nobody really new what kind of President Trump would make. Everybody, including yours truly, enjoyed speculating about his ego, his lack of political experience, the fact that he owed nothing to anybody, that he was a deal maker, a common sense pragmatist. Well, we still don’t know what kind of President Trump will be, but I am afraid that we now know what kind of President he will NOT be: he will NOT drain the swamp, he will NOT change the subordination of US national interests to the AngloZionist Empire, he will NOT forge a historical partnership with Russia and he will NOT send the Neocons down to the basement from which they crawled out 24 years ago. Whether Trump lacks brains, spine, or balls is anyone’s guess, but it is now painfully clear that he has much more in common with Yanukovich then with Putin.
As I said, it’s over. Not because of Flynn’s views on Iran or Islam. But because Trump has caved in, he has been broken and now all that’s left is a painful 4 year long agony. That’s assuming that the Neocons don’t impeach him just to bask in their arrogance and sense of supremacy.
Frankly, my heart goes out to all those who sincerely hoped that Trump will be the man to free the US from the Neocons and restore the power of
 

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And yet his closest advisers go on TV and tell everybody provable lies and expose their fascist leanings, like that creepy Steve Miller guy. His little outburst was straight out of Hitler's play book. But I can well understand why Locust loves the Trumpster's gang.

Bannon will not be a happy camper, Cliffy. First the ban is lifted and now one of his henchmen has been turfed out. :smile:
 

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Conway will be the next to go. slowly but surely all that brung him to the dance
as it were will be purged allowing him to claim he did it all on his own and he will
be alone. More and more leaks are coming and the good ship white house will singl
 

Mowich

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Conway will be the next to go. slowly but surely all that brung him to the dance
as it were will be purged allowing him to claim he did it all on his own and he will
be alone. More and more leaks are coming and the good ship white house will singl

Conway and Spicer should both go, DG. I'd add to that the person in charge of managing press photo ops because they have been amateur hour at best - what with boom mikes in the way and people not where they are supposed to be, weird camera angles and really poor audio. Don't hold your breath that Bannon will make the list anytime soon. Without his input, Trump would be utterly and completely lost.
 

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I respected Flynn for his clarity of vision of the threats in the world today. The Press has been playing a game of gotcha with Michael Flynn since he was appointed as NSA.

It's very much tied into the attacks on the core of Trump's world view, which is aligning itself with nationalist and populist forces throughout the West, of which Russia is also apart, disregarding all the issues regarding Putin personally.

This marks a victory for the Establishment who are in support of the Sino Islamic sphere and which is in alignment with the forces of Global Free Market Capitalism.. and the end of the sovereign nation state. That is backed by both the NeoLiberal Democrats and NeoConservative Republicans (like McCain and Ryan). Russia is the red herrring in this effort.

This was a media driven campaign to rip the guts out of the Trump economic and strategic platform. Unfortunately Trump handed them a victory which they'll try to use to dismantle his policies. This really was about nothing but a casual conversation on Flynn's part, not about conspiracies and secret agendas.

Trump should have held his ground against the forces massing against him. They'll attack him relentlessly if he gives them any quarter whatsoever.



Other countries are showing open aggression toward the U.S. The Democrats, the protesters and those forces massing against Trump can wear the blame when the enemies are thoroughly emboldened by the show of in-fighting displayed to the whole world.
When a country is divided like the U.S. is now, that is the perfect time to attack them.
All of the dissenters do a gross disservice to their country by not standing behind their new administration. If they cared about the country and their democratic process they should have accepted the transition graciously and waited for the next election to make their disappointment known at the voting booths. Like civilized adults would do!
The rabid attacks on the President, his personnel and everything he says and does is disgraceful.
 

Danbones

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Trump supporters are cowards. They will willingly give up all their personal freedoms if somebody will protect them

...and you suck peenuts bub
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no offence meant ya nazi dueschberger
just sayin

that nazi jew burner soros still signin your pay checks, or has the immigrant welfare kicked back in yet?
 

taxslave

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Other countries are showing open aggression toward the U.S. The Democrats, the protesters and those forces massing against Trump can wear the blame when the enemies are thoroughly emboldened by the show of in-fighting displayed to the whole world.
When a country is divided like the U.S. is now, that is the perfect time to attack them.
All of the dissenters do a gross disservice to their country by not standing behind their new administration. If they cared about the country and their democratic process they should have accepted the transition graciously and waited for the next election to make their disappointment known at the voting booths. Like civilized adults would do!
The rabid attacks on the President, his personnel and everything he says and does is disgraceful.

Most of them didn't care anout the country when their hero was ruining things either.
 

Mowich

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Other countries are showing open aggression toward the U.S. The Democrats, the protesters and those forces massing against Trump can wear the blame when the enemies are thoroughly emboldened by the show of in-fighting displayed to the whole world.
When a country is divided like the U.S. is now, that is the perfect time to attack them.
All of the dissenters do a gross disservice to their country by not standing behind their new administration. If they cared about the country and their democratic process they should have accepted the transition graciously and waited for the next election to make their disappointment known at the voting booths. Like civilized adults would do!
The rabid attacks on the President, his personnel and everything he says and does is disgraceful.

You do realize this latest upset in the administration is solely of their own making. The DNC, the lefties et al had nothing to do with Flynn's lies nor with his subsequent firing.