The 'Official' Quit Picking On Trump Thread

Who Hates Trump the Most?

  • Dumbocrats

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Reptilicans

    Votes: 9 28.1%
  • Broads

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • Canadians

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32

Ocean Breeze

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I just think America has missed having a strong male type in power. And men haters all over are really pissed we elected one.
Are you saying that Trump is an image of power?? Don't know about that. His image seems to be more of a beligerant child. a nd at 70 that does not reflect well on the US. Even China said he behaved like a 5 yr old. One thing is certain.. the Chinese are NOT stupid or blind. If they see him as immature .then others do as well. His conduct indicates that.


An image of power is a lot more subtle and sophisticated. Just t sayin' Power is not gender oriented. Trump is too arrogant to have the classy image of true power. If the bloke had any class he would support any investigation of the Russian influence onthe election..... as that is in the best interest of the c ountry,. He is only concerened ab out himself. But he calls the findings so far ridiculous. .. as he is threatened by what theymight reveal.
 

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Are you saying that Trump is an image of power?? Don't know about that. His image seems to be more of a beligerant child. a nd at 70 that does not reflect well on the US. Even China said he behaved like a 5 yr old. One thing is certain.. the Chinese are NOT stupid or blind. If they see him as immature .then others do as well. His conduct indicates that.


An image of power is a lot more subtle and sophisticated. Just t sayin' Power is not gender oriented. Trump is too arrogant to have the classy image of true power. If the bloke had any class he would support any investigation of the Russian influence onthe election..... as that is in the best interest of the c ountry,. He is only concerened ab out himself. But he calls the findings so far ridiculous. .. as he is threatened by what theymight reveal.

There you go hating men again. He's what you men haters like to call a cave man. Yes we know you hate men.

The same way you're a dumb feminist €unt to us cave men. I know you think you're so much better then us. But you're just the same.

You think a bunch of feminist €nuts would be capable of building infrastructures and skyscrapers?

They can't. You need real strong cave men to build that stuff

What do dumb feminist €unts contribute too in this country,?

Have feminist €nuts built any hydro dams? Nuclear plants? Highways?

Real cave man built this country. You understand. Cave men made America great. Not stupid feminist €unts
 

HarperCons

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Interesting tile : What is Trump?? a poor victim of bullying?? or is he the bully?? Ans: the latter The fact that he can't handle the consequences of his big mouth is evident in his twittering. If folks are too blind to see him for what he is..then they can deal with the con man they elected. Perhaps they got blinded with all that bling that is part of his building structure. and assumed it is the real deal. but they sure get ugly when they defend him. Ugly has taken over from intelligent articulate , knowledgeable, and wise. Who knew...(how fast society wold deteriorate ) Sad.
Trump is... the establishment. The exact person his supporters thought he was not.

There you go hating men again. He's what you men haters like to call a cave man. Yes we know you hate men.

The same way you're a dumb feminist €unt to us cave men. I know you think you're so much better then us. But you're just the same.

You think a bunch of feminist €nuts would be capable of building infrastructures and skyscrapers?

They can't. You need real strong cave men to build that stuff

What do dumb feminist €unts contribute too in this country,?

Have feminist €nuts built any hydro dams? Nuclear plants? Highways?

Real cave man built this country. You understand. Cave men made America great. Not stupid feminist €unts
Calm down dumbass.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Trump is... the establishment. The exact person his supporters thought he was not.

Interesting. as he seems to be a strange version of the establishment. Mind you his picks seem rather xtreme right. and Establishment .ish. They are a curious mix. Interesting that political/ governing experience is not a "qualification" for their jobs. The theme seems to be militant business.
Even the republicans are questioning Trumps judgement.
Gotta dmit that this is turning t obe a fascinating process .from so many points of view.
 

Ocean Breeze

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The above are not facts; they are your opinion to which you are definitely entitled. But please understand that there are many who are of a different opinion and they are as apt to be right as you are.
Time will tell.
with due respect Time is telling as we speak. We are seeing how he behaves and thinks...and it is anything but intelligent, informed or "presidential"If he does not trigger a war in his first 100 days. well you get the drift. He has already pissed of China ...and he is not in office yet. Seems that one does not need tea leqaves to predict how this unpredictable, immature person will fare. It is one thing to "make america first" but HOW itis done is quite another matter. Too bad that most people think in slogans and sound bites.What happened to critical thinking?? ..

amerika IS extreme right.... always has been.
actually , I think you are right. I had hoped it would evolve into something a tad more mderate... but right you are.
 

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Interesting tile : What is Trump?? a poor victim of bullying?? or is he the bully?? Ans: the latter The fact that he can't handle the consequences of his big mouth is evident in his twittering. If folks are too blind to see him for what he is..then they can deal with the con man they elected. Perhaps they got blinded with all that bling that is part of his building structure. and assumed it is the real deal. but they sure get ugly when they defend him. Ugly has taken over from intelligent articulate , knowledgeable, and wise. Who knew...(how fast society wold deteriorate ) Sad.
You know what is really sad . The democratic candidate spent 1.2 billion dollars to lose the election . Where did that kind of money come from ?
 

davesmom

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with due respect Time is telling as we speak. We are seeing how he behaves and thinks...and it is anything but intelligent, informed or "presidential"If he does not trigger a war in his first 100 days. well you get the drift. He has already pissed of China ...and he is not in office yet. Seems that one does not need tea leqaves to predict how this unpredictable, immature person will fare. It is one thing to "make america first" but HOW itis done is quite another matter. Too bad that most people think in slogans and sound bites.What happened to critical thinking?? .

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China has been getting more aggressive over the past few years, exerting a show of power and defying any opposition to its authority. As I see it, that is largely due to Obama's failure to stand up to them. Obama has put America's sovereignty in jeopardy by appeasing China and Iran and totally ignoring the North Korean threat which is fuelled by those two countries. It's time somebody stood up and said, 'Enough!'.


How many ways are there of putting one's country's interest 'first'? It sure can't be done by giving in to the unfair trade deals proposed by other countries and ignoring aggressive, war-like acts.


Critical thinking would lead one to believe that China has been planning and preparing for a future position of dominance in the world. I would fear China a lot more than Russia. In fact I think being a Russian ally will come in handy in the future when China begins to seriously flex its muscle.


Respectfully, I think Trump's opposers are generating fear where there should be none by speculating on what is going to happen. Every talk show has self-appointed 'experts' predicting doom and gloom. There looks like only one out of every ten of them who actually know anything. Most of them are too young to have a clue or to know the lessons that history should have taught us. One of the most important lessons we should have learned is that a dictator cannot be appeased. Yet there are several dictatorial powers right now that America has been bowing to. And they have grown stronger.


I think there is war brewing in the near future but I don't think Trump will be responsible for it. One way or another, the dictators of the world are going to 'go for it'. Maybe under Trump's governance America will be better prepared to face it when it comes.


Just my humble opinion. :)
 

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You know what is really sad . The democratic candidate spent 1.2 billion dollars to lose the election . Where did that kind of money come from ?
Why is that sad? Seems to me it's good for the economy. The money comes mostly from rich donors. It's good to see rich folks pump billions into the economy. Better than handing billions TO rich folks like Trump and his leftards will do for the next four years (assuming he isn't jailed)
 

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with due respect Time is telling as we speak. We are seeing how he behaves and thinks...and it is anything but intelligent, informed or "presidential"If he does not trigger a war in his first 100 days. well you get the drift. He has already pissed of China ...and he is not in office yet. Seems that one does not need tea leqaves to predict how this unpredictable, immature person will fare. It is one thing to "make america first" but HOW itis done is quite another matter. Too bad that most people think in slogans and sound bites.What happened to critical thinking?? ..


actually , I think you are right. I had hoped it would evolve into something a tad more mderate... but right you are.
And in all your rants all you gave us were slogans and talking points .
 

TenPenny

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Critical thinking would lead one to believe that China has been planning and preparing for a future position of dominance in the world. I would fear China a lot more than Russia. In fact I think being a Russian ally will come in handy in the future when China begins to seriously flex its muscle.



In reality, that doesn't take 'critical thining', it takes READING.


China has publicly stated many times that they see the role of the country to become a counterbalance to 'American hegemony'.


Anyone who doesn't think China is a threat is crazy.
 

Ocean Breeze

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China has been getting more aggressive over the past few years, exerting a show of power and defying any opposition to its authority. As I see it, that is largely due to Obama's failure to stand up to them. Obama has put America's sovereignty in jeopardy by appeasing China and Iran and totally ignoring the North Korean threat which is fuelled by those two countries. It's time somebody stood up and said, 'Enough!'.


How many ways are there of putting one's country's interest 'first'? It sure can't be done by giving in to the unfair trade deals proposed by other countries and ignoring aggressive, war-like acts.


Critical thinking would lead one to believe that China has been planning and preparing for a future position of dominance in the world. I would fear China a lot more than Russia. In fact I think being a Russian ally will come in handy in the future when China begins to seriously flex its muscle.


Respectfully, I think Trump's opposers are generating fear where there should be none by speculating on what is going to happen. Every talk show has self-appointed 'experts' predicting doom and gloom. There looks like only one out of every ten of them who actually know anything. Most of them are too young to have a clue or to know the lessons that history should have taught us. One of the most important lessons we should have learned is that a dictator cannot be appeased. Yet there are several dictatorial powers right now that America has been bowing to. And they have grown stronger.


I think there is war brewing in the near future but I don't think Trump will be responsible for it. One way or another, the dictators of the world are going to 'go for it'. Maybe under Trump's governance America will be better prepared to face it when it comes.


Just my humble opinion. :)
So the REAL issue with China is that the US is threatened by the idea of China gaining more powere in the world. would it not be wiser to aim for some form of collaboration?? Or is the US going to do whatever It has to to keep the power over the planet and even gather more . .even if it means more war and human slaughter.
Yes.it is important to stand up to others when nec. It is HOW it is done that matters. Giving others a contract they can't refuse is not the most constructive method. IMHO The concerning factor is that he is prepared to break-rules and make up his own. All one has to do is observe his behaviior and words..ethics and standards are not a big priority. Bullying tactics might make for good tV but in reality are ugly offensive.

It will be interesting to watch him try to manipulate his way around the most sensitive and delicate issues on the planet. He might reconsider considering that others are fools What he does not get is that it is HE that is being foolish ( and childish) to limit the amount of inforation he gets in those limited breifings. He is acting like he knows it all....and that is the first step to disaster.....as he does NOT know it all....and in fact inows very litter but thinks he can perform his role by the seat of his-pants........ and if that is not a concern to people...then they have not been paying attention. Or doing someserious selective listening....And why is it ok for him to tweet caustic , nasty comments to anyone that offends his very sensitive ego.....Is that not a sign of someone that wants to control what is being said ?? Just askin Why is he unable to deal with the media in a mature and effective way without getting testy each time it reporsts the truth about him or questions his actions and motives. Is he trying to curb the media too??The press has a job to do...and it includes keeping the leader accountable. He cannot keep threatening others when they say what he does not want to hear.

Something about "be careful what you ask for....you might get it" comes to mind.

IMHO)
 

davesmom

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So the REAL issue with China is that the US is threatened by the idea of China gaining more powere in the world. would it not be wiser to aim for some form of collaboration?? Or is the US going to do whatever It has to to keep the power over the planet and even gather more . .even if it means more war and human slaughter.
Yes.it is important to stand up to others when nec. It is HOW it is done that matters. Giving others a contract they can't refuse is not the most constructive method. IMHO The concerning factor is that he is prepared to break-rules and make up his own. All one has to do is observe his behaviior and words..ethics and standards are not a big priority. Bullying tactics might make for good tV but in reality are ugly offensive.
You may see him as a bully with ugly offensive behavior but I and a good many others don't see him that way at all.
Collaboration hasn't done much to keep China in line for the past eight years. The Chinese take collaboration as consent.
It isn't a matter of the US keeping control of the planet; it is a matter of not being overrun and occupied by China.
It is giving other countries contracts they can't refuse that has put US in a trading deficit. Contracts have to work both ways.

It will be interesting to watch him try to manipulate his way around the most sensitive and delicate issues on the planet. He might reconsider considering that others are fools What he does not get is that it is HE that is being foolish ( and childish) to limit the amount of inforation he gets in those limited breifings. He is acting like he knows it all....and that is the first step to disaster.....as he does NOT know it all....and in fact inows very litter but thinks he can perform his role by the seat of his-pants........ and if that is not a concern to people...then they have not been paying attention. Or doing someserious selective listening....And why is it ok for him to tweet caustic , nasty comments to anyone that offends his very sensitive ego.....Is that not a sign of someone that wants to control what is being said ?? Just askin Why is he unable to deal with the media in a mature and effective way without getting testy each time it reporsts the truth about him or questions his actions and motives. Is he trying to curb the media too??The press has a job to do...and it includes keeping the leader accountable. He cannot keep threatening others when they say what he does not want to hear.
How is he acting like he knows it all? He is asking advice from a wide variety of both Democrats and Republicans.
I expect he tweets his comments for the same reason as you and I post here; to express our opinions. Is a President elect not allowed to do that? Why shouldn't he have the same right to free speech as any other citizen?
I interpret what you are saying as suggesting that he must be politically correct. Well, he made it clear during his campaign that he was NOT PC. I think his popularity with his supporters is largely because he talks like a fellow human being, not a mealy-mouthed politician. He tells it like he sees it.
If the people wanted to be lied to they could have all voted for Hillary.

IMHO
 

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Ocean Breeze

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He tells it like he sees it.
If the people wanted to be lied to they could have all voted for Hillary.


Yes.he tells it as HE sees it and he BELIEVES that HIS world view is the only one that matters.
/what seems to be evident is that his supporters like to be manipulated and he does it with a certain unsophisticated "finesse. What is intersting is that political correctness is interpreted for what should be tact and verbal courtesy. If you believe that Trumps maniplative behavior does not include lies or highly stretched truths ....well..then it must be acceptab le to be manipulated.

The reality is that a very ugly side of the American mindset has been unleashed by someone who has no clue as to what being tactufl , and polite means. One can look forward to much more racial hatred acting out, more shootings, more divisiveness and more anger emerging. Can the US culture handle it?? without deteriorating even further??

We have heard a lot of slogan-like statements from him....but no details. for eg: Make america great again..... Well HOW is he ging to do it??HOW is he going to get rid of ISO , How will he reduce gun vioolence?? HOW will he improve the education system and make sure everyone gets a decent basic education. ? How will he with NAFTA?? besides tearing it up. Whydoes he not give the people some idea of HOW he will do the things he promised?? So far it all sounds like some TV ad.

One canhope for one thing...... and that is that he surrounds himself with smart and expereinced people that DO KNOW HOW to deal with issues in a smart and progresive way. and that will all depend on whether he will listen??

He is a salesman first....It is an interesting culture that sees big mouth bufoonery as "strength and tact /diplomacy and dialogue as "weak" Perhaps it is down to the darwinian "survival of the loudest and most aggressive ".. at any cost.

telling it as he sees it......is a far cry from telling it as the facts that exist Believing that climate change is a hoax started by China..........is an example of "telling it as he sees it" Yet that is but one of his most stupid "beliefs" With that kind of mindset.he can easily take the US into a new form of dark age.. Let us hope that is not the case.
 

TenPenny

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One of the big concerns is that anyone who disagrees with Trump in any way gets the 'twitter' treatment; Boeing gets slammed and their stock get pummelled, because they publicly disagreed with him on a policy issue. People get insulted and slammed because they disagree with him. I can't wait to see what happens when ExxonMobil disagrees with something he says, he'll probably fire the Secretary of State.


Trump needs to learn that not everyone will agree with him all the time, and sometimes, you're better off to keep quiet.