Obviously you are not Canadian. American troll.
Getus, the promised land.
And obviously you are not too bright!
2016 Presidential Campaign
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And obviously you are not too bright!
Just call them opposite to the pollsters and you'll be pretty safe 19 times out of 20.
You are making the usual mistake of an inexperienced debater by bringing a non-sequitur into the argument. The fact that Canada's electoral system is also flawed does not justify the fact that the US has a system that is even worse. Simply stated: "Two wrongs do not make a right."
I'm not sure how many times I have to repeat the fact that I taught political science for decades. I understand more about US politics than most Americans. And the fact that the electoral College is a historical entity does not make it fair. The US political system is so badly flawed that it is hard to know where to start to correct it, but the getting rid of the Electoral College would be a good place to start; especially as it does not work the way it was supposed to. If it did work a clown like the Dumpster would not be the next president.
Calling trump a clown after all you polsci guys just got creamed by the results of the election, and the fact that you don't get that america stood up to a system that is crooked, and so not even about politics, leads me to recall the old adage
"if you can't do, teach".
Are you teachers responsible for the idiotic butt hurt students running around yelling at buildings?
"if you can't do, teach".
Are you teachers responsible for the idiotic butt hurt students running around yelling at buildings?
How come this forum states there is thousand of members,and I have been stuck with crafted idiots like you few?
I feel cheated and more so no one wants constructive conversation
I should write the company BOD and ask them where are all the thousands of ideologues
Seems like I only have the engagement of three idiot minds
Once in a while somethings are. Said worth reading but overall this is all ****
I feel cheated and more so no one wants constructive conversation
I should write the company BOD and ask them where are all the thousands of ideologues
Seems like I only have the engagement of three idiot minds
Once in a while somethings are. Said worth reading but overall this is all ****
Who cares?
I didn't notice you complaining about the electoral college in 2012 or 2008. I actually think the American system is less flawed than the Canadian one. It gives far more voice to voters in less populated areas than the Canadian one which can be considered a good feature. Raw popular votes keep the campaigning in New York and California.
And I am simply discussing things on a message board. Never have I ever claimed to be a experienced master debater.
Why? Why is a voter in Iowa worth more than a voter in New York? As an Albertans, I'm frustrated by the eastern tards ****ing us around but the solution IMNSHO, is to create a province that people want to come to and grow your population. Giving my vote extra weight in an attempt to make things fair sounds like something a progressive would want. Years ago, as a member of the Reform Party, I argued against the Triple E senate for just that reason
Why is your vote in Alberta (and every other rural backwater) worth more than mine in Ontario?. It's not fair... per capita, we are entitled to a lot more seats than we have but the ridings are not drawn up by population and so, the voters in sparsely populated places have more power per vote.
And they shouldn't... and calling Calgary, Edmonton et al, rural backwater makes you look silly
Stop being so silly. It's far from over. This is all gonna start again in two years
and absolutely no one on this board is anyway near a good debater, they immediately resort to one liners in an argument form, name calling, very childish.
yes, if Canada had just the popular vote, Ontario would decide the complete election every time, and
even the way it is, they decide too much, so in the states yes, California ,new York and a handful of others would decide
everything, others might as well stay home.
It's only "unfair" if you begin with the assumption, which we have never had in the U.S., that direct popular nationwide election of the president is "fair." I'd certainly be willing to listen to an argument that it is fair, and even that it is the only fair way to do it. But that argument has never been made, to my knowledge.
I can name you half a dozen things about the American electoral system that aren't "fair." Some of them you'd agree with. Some you undoubtedly wouldn't. But I will not accept your statement that something is "fair" ab initio.
Non sequitur is bad, but so is arguing with undefined terms.
So do tell. Why would direct nationwide popular election of the president be more "fair" than the electoral college system? Any evidence? I'll even help you out. Five times in U.S. history a president has been elected who lost the popular vote:
1824 - John Quincy Adams. Considering that the man he beat, Andrew Jackson, is regarded by many as "the American Hitler," maybe it's a good thing that his reign was put off by four years.
1876 - Rutherford B. Hayes was elected, despite losing to Samuel Tilden. I'd love to hear an argument why Tilden would have been a better president. Heck, I'd love to hear from anybody who knows anything about Tilden or Hayes.
1888 - Benjamin Harrison became president, though Stephen Grover Cleveland had more popular votes. I know nothing about either man's policies, but this "unfairness" gave us the interesting historical anomaly that Cleveland is the only president to have served split terms.
2000 - Bush became president, though Gore won the popular vote. At least we know something about the two men.
2016 - Trump beat Clinton, though Clinton had more popular votes.
In addition to actually defining "fair," I'd love to hear you find a common thread in these five elections that supports the notion that the winner of the popular vote would have been a better president than the winner of the electoral vote.
I don't name-call, you filthy Canadian cow.
Actually, Texas is the second most populous state now. And as far as "staying home" is concerned, that's already a problem. I have developed a habit of voting as irresponsibly as I can for president, because I know to a certainty that my state, Maryland, will go to the Democratic candidate.
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Here's a news flash for you. Political Science Teachers don't get a lot of respect. That's because they teach people to be politicians; lying, evasive, conniving scoundrels.
I would assume that most of the members decided not to waste their time with the preponderance of drivel posted here. Since I am retired, I have lots of time to waste so I stay and glean what I can from the very few posters that are capable of thinking.
There is no use trying to discuss anything with ideologues anyway. Their ideology is too far removed from reality and they are so full of themselves. They cannot offer any logic in their arguments so they invariably resort to personal attacks.
Who needs it?