2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

JLM

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Why on occasion do I sense no one wants to engage in conversation with me?
This is not nice


What did you want to talk about P.T.? Maybe I can help! :)

Ira Hayes was a U.S. Marine who served his country honorably. He deserved better than he got just like so many other former honorable vets.


Egg Zachary!

If you had any brains, you might be dangerous. Stop telling lies, you little worm. I am not on welfare. How are things down at the sewage plant?


Good one, Cliffy! Just keep hammering away at the little creep- he's pretty much universally detested on here anyway!:) :)

Why on occasion do I sense no one wants to engage in conversation with me?
This is not nice


Some people are intolerant and others are intolerable and the odd one is both. If you look hard you may find one or two on the forum!:) :)
 

davesmom

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Why on occasion do I sense no one wants to engage in conversation with me?
This is not nice



There are not many people in internet forums who want to engage in conversation. If you find a couple who make sense at all you are lucky. Don't take anything personally.


Example: Somebody here called me 'fat and ugly'. Typical foolishness from someone who never has, never will see me! Just a smart a s s! No big deal.
 

JLM

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There are not many people in internet forums who want to engage in conversation. If you find a couple who make sense at all you are lucky. Don't take anything personally.


Example: Somebody here called me 'fat and ugly'. Typical foolishness from someone who never has, never will see me! Just a smart a s s! No big deal.


One of the problems here, D.M., is that no one enforces the forum rules. I for one don't agree with rules/laws that aren't enforced. If you aren't going to enforce them why make them? Myself- I'm generally a polite person and believe in being so and I find the general "atmosphere" is so much more pleasant when everyone else is the same, but if someone else wants to call the game I can play it too. We've lost a whole bunch of some of the better debaters over the past couple of years.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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All I can say is, it's a good thing nutters like Cliffy are an insignificant portion of the population, though I do think we should cut him off welfare. I don't expect much but a little appreciation for the hand that feeds you should be expected.
They're actually a fairly large portion, though "insignificant" is quite correct, just not in a numerical sense.

As far as the rest, welfare ain't about gratitude. You do it because it's right (and required).
 

pgs

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Cliffy is bugging!



What's wrong with this picture?

*snicker*
But Cleveland . We have to change that awful name .
 

pgs

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It strikes me that anarchy is the fundamentally worst form of government if you expect anything to be done by anybody anytime. I suspect you like being an anarchist yourself as long as you are surrounded by a support system, whatever that may be, that is non-anarchist.
Especially tax payer funded helicopters to take him to the tax payer funded hospital .
 

Cannuck

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You ignoring me? How's your letter coming?

Especially tax payer funded helicopters to take him to the tax payer funded hospital .

Cliffy is dishonest. He claims to be an anarchist but he is, in fact, a Communist. He just thinks it's easier to sell and he gets to pretend he is a rebel instead of a sheep.
 

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Question for Americans on this forum? Do voting stations have scrutineers from both major party? Here in Canada, there are independent people hired to watch all poll stations. They are hired by the Liberals and Conservatives parties and are hired to watch and assure that the process is on the up and up. Counting and validating tickets is scrutinized closely and reported to a special number provided to these scrutineers. Each station is provided with a list of registered voters from a district, whom are crossed referenced with identification provided at the table, and their name gets crossed off. Rigging might be possible, but difficult. Is Trump just a sore losers, even before loosing?
 

Corduroy

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I don't think anyone will learn much from Michelle Obama's speeches. She assumes to know what Donald Trump is doing and thinking, what kind of person he is, without anything but her 'opinion' to back her up.
What Michelle does best is fan the flames of racism.

I can tell you didn't listen to Michelle Obama's speech or read what I quoted from it.


So that one (and only) poll that tends to favour Trump while all the others don't?

Turns out it's phony.

Must be rigged.


It's one of Donald Trump's favourite polls to boast about at rallies. But as the New York Times' Nate Cohn reported last week, the poll has some serious methodological issues.

From the start, it was obvious that the USC/LAT poll was different. Rather than surveying a random sample of the population, as telephone polls do, it has surveyed people from the same pool of some 3,000 voters repeatedly.

For this reason, the USC/LAT poll has never been included in the CBC's Presidential Poll Tracker poll averages.

But the oddities did not stop there. The poll also weighted its sample to ensure it had the same amount of voters and non-voters as the general population in 2012, as well as the same proportion of people who cast a ballot for Barack Obama or Mitt Romney.

But poll respondents routinely over-report their past voting participation and are more likely to report having voted for the winner. This means that the sample probably has a disproportionate number of Republicans who have forgotten, or who won't admit, that they voted for Romney in 2012. The Times found that removing this weighting brought the poll more into line with other surveys.


Donald Trump and the war on polls - Politics - CBC News

Polling isn't an exact science. The end result of polling gets reported in the news as "Clinton 44%, Trump 43%!" but those numbers hide the methodology and every poll has a different methodology the pollsters think is an accurate representation of the electorate. It isn't just asking 1000 random people and adding up the totals. They try to determine who the electorate are and the likelihood of each respondent voting, and they weight their results on a formula they think is accurate. The LA Times polls has what's called a Republican house bias because of the way it's conducted. It's not wrong exactly. It just makes assumptions about who will vote that are quite different from a lot of other polls.

If you remember in 2012, there was a conservative movement intent on "unskewing" the polls. They looked at the methodology of polls that had Obama winning and figured it over-represented democrats. The polls in question asked about voter registration and included more Democrats in their sampling. Poll unskewers thought all the polls were wrong and we were in for a huge Dewey beats Truman upset (sound familiar?). On election night you might recall Karl Rove had so thoroughly bought into the idea that he made a fool of himself on Fox News disbelieving their projection that Obama had won. Turns out the methodology that had Obama ahead was sound, for reasons I won't get into, and now we're replaying the same drama this year.

It is possible that a scenario could play out on election night where the LA Times poll's predictions of who is going to vote turn out true and all the other polls are wrong.


All he has to do to maximize his potential is stick to issues.

You've been saying that all Trump has to do is stick the issues for a while now.

Where is your tolerance?
I ask you to at least try to understand,life doesn't have to be difficult

 
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Danbones

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs
Published on Oct 18, 2016
In the second video of James O'Keefe's new explosive series on the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign, Democratic party operatives tell us how to successfully commit voter fraud on a massive scale. Scott Foval, who has since been fired, admits that the Democrats have been rigging elections for fifty years.