2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

coldstream

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In a campaign of self inflicted wounds i think the stupidest was Trump's claim that election was rigged. It made him look like a LOSER, someone who has tossed in the towel before the final round and is looking for an excuse to assuage his wounded ego in defeat. The last thing you want to do is deflate your base by the declaring their vote is futile and the outcome already determined.

He can still win. He's got an agenda whose time has come, and he's up against a disaster of an opponent.. lacking energy, vision, integrity.. who would have a disastrous Presidency filled with all of the disassembling policies that have ripped the economy and society of America apart over the last 50 yeas.

All he has to do to maximize his potential is stick to issues.. TRADE, corruption, sovereignty, security, SCOTUS.. and not shoot himself in the foot with baseless conspiracy theories. Tell voters that the media has run an orchestrated campaign to smear him.. that's obvious.. but do not start flailing around with 'rigged' elections.

Hillary (or her 'handlers') are conducting a campaign of distraction, fully abetted by the mainstream media. Trump's job is to refocus on the issues that brought him here. Do not even engage in a cat fight with her, she's far too cunning to lose on her own feline turf.

I'm confident The Polls are inaccurate, at least those showing a 8 to 11 point lead for Clinton (and they ARE likely Rigged.. but who cares, only one counts at the end). Both Hillary and Donald are likely each at around 40 -42% of the vote. 10% will go the third parties which means the 6 - 8% of the undecideds.. if they vote at all.. will determine the outcome.

I expect there could be an upset, and all the self congratulatory assertions by pundits that this election is over, with Clinton a landslide victor, will prove very premature. Given all that has happened in the primaries, in Brexit, in the mood of the electorate does not skew to electing a careless arch conventional, status quo candidate with no imagination, understanding America's founding values or empathy with its current distress.. like Hillary.
 
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Remington1

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Journalist who've endorse the Democrats are getting death treats. Seems like some Republicans are exactly what they fear the most. Tempers and hatred have been lit now, and extinguishing it might be a problem, can we see another 'Charlie'?
 

JLM

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Journalist who've endorse the Democrats are getting death treats. Seems like some Republicans are exactly what they fear the most. Tempers and hatred have been lit now, and extinguishing it might be a problem, can we see another 'Charlie'?


Manson? Nah! It's the silent types you have to fear. Trump is just a blow hard! :)

I presume. davesmom is saying he was a faux Indian.


Nah, I'm pretty sure he was the "Real McCoy".
 

mentalfloss

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President Obama to Donald Trump About 'Rigged' Elections: 'Stop Whining' - NBC News
 

Cliffy

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Yet you promote protectionism in trade, which is a form of nationalism.
Wherever did you get that idea? I'm an anarchist. I don't believe in governments or artificial borders. The present governance and economic systems are broke, unfixable, unsustainable and just plain stupid. There are other systems out there that make a whole lot more sense than the garbage we have now.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Wherever did you get that idea? I'm an anarchist. I don't believe in governments or artificial borders. The present governance and economic systems are broke, unfixable, unsustainable and just plain stupid. There are other systems out there that make a whole lot more sense than the garbage we have now.



It strikes me that anarchy is the fundamentally worst form of government if you expect anything to be done by anybody anytime. I suspect you like being an anarchist yourself as long as you are surrounded by a support system, whatever that may be, that is non-anarchist.
 

personal touch

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Pumped for the debate tomorrow night!hope Donakd says Wikilieks 10 times,I hope Hilary makes those gorgeous whacked presentations,not sure who the moderator is,but looking forward to it
Melanie did her interview I hope she is there,wearing something spectacular,sitting in the front row
I am so excited
Go Hilary Go!

In Las Vegas?
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Pumped for the debate tomorrow night!hope Donakd says Wikilieks 10 times,I hope Hilary makes those gorgeous whacked presentations,not sure who the moderator is,but looking forward to it
Melanie did her interview I hope she is there,wearing something spectacular,sitting in the front row
I am so excited
Go Hilary Go!

In Las Vegas?

Be sure and have a drink everytime either candidate says one of their catch phrases.