Justin Trudeau says abortion rights trump MPs' freedom to vote their conscience
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Over the years, the purpose of marriage has changed somewhat. We mostly marry for love.......How is love expressed? Mostly through mutual pleasure in the sex act. How long would a marriage last without mutual exchange of love and pleasure?? However, even with the birth control methods available these days, there have been failures in all methods.
My friend, had a child after a tubal ligation in her late forties. There was no choice back then re abortion. The child was born as a hydrocephalic. Having such a child at that age, took a great toll on the family.
Now, in Canadian news today, a teen age girl is under arrest, for killing her baby and in Canada, an Indian band system in Sask. is accused of not following up on a new born in a family of 8 siblings, who died of bronchial pneumonia. It seems it was already a problem in the family, caring for the 8 children already in existence, when the 9th came along. Both those babies, one born to a delinquent teenager and the other to an already too large a family to care for another new-born.
Putting a guilt trip on women and their families by saying all life is sacred caused untold harm. One teenager up for murder, and the other family believed to be neglectful.
In my opinion, all options should be available to the choice of the one person who will bear the burden of said pregnancy and the consequences. It serves nothing to try and control a future mother's choice of how to handle HER situation.
No they are not!!
Yes I was, and my parents showed it.
Yes there is a shortage of food. Simply because, even in the Western world, supposedly the bread box of the world, there is poverty. Poverty is most noticeable in the lack of enough to eat over the long term.
Since I had a boy child first and then twin girls, I would say my stock is quite adequate, perhaps even superior to most. We live long and stay healthy.
No,.....There is an institution in my area that cares for all those genetically inferior children. Ever seen children who wear football helmets all their lives due to beating their heads on whatever hard surface they encounter? Or those, in spite of regular physio, have wasted limbs, are unable to talk and in some cases unable to anything but cry to express themselves, sometimes without a sound?? You do not have the right to make the judgements on who should live or die. It should be between the mother and her doctor. So get your nose out of the wombs of women.
I'll believe that when the Baffin Correction Center is properly investigated. Until then all the words that come with no actual changes is nothing but lip service.
My word, with people with your attitude, don't you think we are already starting where we must?? There are always those who seek to inflict their ideas on others. So not really.
Our government representatives have been encouraging all nations to extend individual rights in all areas. Donations of birth control pills and speaking out about giving sons and daughters the right to choose their own mates. Or more specifically, abandoning the practice of forced marriages. Stop the burning of wives, after receiving their doweries, Killing of sons and daughters when they run away to marry someone of their own choice. Refrain from stoning or killing adulterers. Shall I go on??
As a nation we must practice what we preach and not force our standards on others who have not reached a place where they can accept such change.
A foreign government can only suggest such changes, perhaps with minor rewards and punishments, to help improve standards .
Taking away a childhood, by giving 8 & 10 year olds guns and turning them into soldiers is a terrible thing , but happens. That is what some countries under a terrorist regime do. It is not acceptable in our country but short of declaring war and slaughtering those armies, there seems no decent way to interfere.
In the end it is all about allowing choice but there is no harm in suggesting it would be a happier world if all people had a bit of choice in their daily lives. .
Are you suggesting the US allow the Saudi Regime to use bigger and better bombs on funerals and hospitals??
Take away poverty and you get your wish yet that option never seems to even make it to the table. There is enough money in the world is hoarding is frowned on, so far it seems to be the only goal people with money have. More money in the general public and the cheaper everything is. Is it a tad strange that there are enough machetes for all the men in Africa yet they have to go to war in sandles or bare feet, I doubt that was their choice.
Take away poverty and you get your wish yet that option never seems to even make it to the table. There is enough money in the world is hoarding is frowned on, so far it seems to be the only goal people with money have. More money in the general public and the cheaper everything is. Is it a tad strange that there are enough machetes for all the men in Africa yet they have to go to war in sandles or bare feet, I doubt that was their choice.
Where did I suggest anything like allowing any regime to bomb other countries?? Bombing an army of children is not a useful solution. In a democracy, what a government does, is generally supposed to be by the choice of the people they were elected by.
As to the hoarding, it depends on the policy of the governing party. The trickle down effect so favored by some parties, has never done much for either Canada or the US except keep the middle class poorer than ever before.
I do not know that much about war in Africa, but going through the jungle, I would be grateful for both good shoes and machetes. Perhaps that is a cause you could try bringing to the Prime Ministers attention. That is one place where he did well. By spending money on public works, in the Provinces, jobs were produced and put quite a number of people back to work. Not sure if there is much left over for supplying shoes to African warriors.
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Thanks for your honesty,
Why do you feel compelled to put forth strange intentions,
Do u get off in such moves you think are so grand but in truth makes you look like a dip ****
How was harvest?done?snow?
Cold here
A conscience is a heavy thing, few can bear it's weight elegantly, most leave a stain instead of a stone tablet.
We are a lot shorter than we think we are.
We are a lot shorter than we think we are.
Our Govt doesn't hand out f-ck all. The UN hands out condoms but not as a contraceptive but to help stem the spread of HIV.
Where do get this misguided crap from?
At no time should the murder of a child be one of the "options". A choice was made when they decided to have sex. When one CHOOSES to have sex, then they should also be ready to accept the consequences of that CHOICE. If they are not, then DON'T......HAVE.....SEX. it's very simple.
Before you spout off, you might take time to do a little research It is just ignorant to barrel in with insults before you know the facts. Canada along with other better off members of the UN do help with family planning along with contraceptives for many poorer countries than ours.
http://www.unfpa.org/family-planning
Gerryh
What child!! Aborting a fertilized egg is not murdering a baby.....It takes growth both physical and mental before it can be classed as a living human.. You are entitled to your belief, just as any other person is to theirs. What was murder was a teenage girl killing her baby yesterday.
Which do you feel is more humane, slicing into an aware feeling child or aborting tissue that is as yet not even fully formed.
Do you even believe in contraception for women? Because if you do, the "Day After Pill" is a form of the contraceptive one. It sloughs off the unfertilized egg as well as the fertilized one.
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You do realize that the majority of abortions happen well past the fertilized egg. The majority happen between 12 and 20 weeks. Way past your fertilized egg stage. You f course you know this. You've done your research, right? You wouldn't be shooting off your mouth about something you know nothing about. You must be being purposely obtuse.
In a perfect world there would be no rapes,no contraception failures and there no need for abortions at any stage, and all women would know how far along their pregnancy has progressed. However, this is not a perfect world. There have been women giving birth unexpectedly who were unaware they were even pregnant!! Some just thought they were getting fat
There are women who believe it was merely menopause. That is when more than the usual down syndrome children are conceived Apparently many reproductive systems become defective with age. One very young couple, chose a a more permanent solution when they were blessed with 4 down's syndrome children. They were a young couple and the vasectomy was a new procedure at that time. (Back then it took a consultation before every vasectomy and they were rarely done on men in their 20's......... how things have changed!!)) The surgeons made an exception in their case feeling, 4 in 4 years was probably a genetic defect rather than an accidental happening. He went for a vasectomy reluctantly, being a good Catholic with a very enthusiastic push from his wife.
I will continue to shoot of my mouth, as I am neither ignorant about the subject nor obtuse. You need to accept I do know a fair amount about the subject.
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Condoms. They hand out condoms. That's all no "the pill" just condoms.
UNFPA, WHO and UNAIDS: Position statement on condoms and the prevention of HIV, other sexually transmitted infections and unintended pregnancy | UNAIDS
You did not READ the article. Family planning has nothing whatever to do with aids. Don't be so lazy .....Read the article.
Unless you are part of the ones creating aids epidemics in the first place. Vaccines are replacing that as it targets children rather than adults.
Well gee, I wonder where all those UNfPA pills are going.... You failed your test. It is necessary to go further than looking at Aids prevention. It is not all about rape and forcing partners into condomless sex you know. Even poor people are often faithful to one person and therefore do not spread Aids wither or hither.
A quote from that article you didn't bother to read because you were so sure you were right.:-
"The birth control pill has increased options for women worldwide as they exercise their right to determine the number, timing and spacing of their children,” said UNFPA Executive Director Thoraya Obaid. “It has also expanded women's ability to take advantage of opportunities for education and employment, enhancing their contributions to their families, societies and nations.”
Smarten up man!!
By the way they want YOUR donation as well as they wish to expand the program to cover all the poorer countries.
If we allow a woman to have an abortion, then we must compensate that at least with adequate public education on the subject of woman-on-man sexual assault. The two following links seem to indicate that while the public is generally well educated on the subject of man-on-woman and adult-on-child sexual assault, the general population remains ignorant of woman-on-man sexual assault.
College women rape college men but few men tell - Tucson News Now
Seattle woman 'rapes sleeping man who wakes up to find her on top of him pinning him down' | Daily Mail Online
I would agree that women in such circumstances should not be allowed to have an abortion without the victim's consent. But, if we insist that she must maintain her full freedom to abort, then at the very least we need better public education on the subject of sexual assault and make it clear that that applies equally whether it is male-on-male, female-on-female, male-on-female, or female-on-male sexual assault and not make it seem like women cannot rape or men cannot be raped, or that an erection equals consent, etc.
College women rape college men but few men tell - Tucson News Now
Seattle woman 'rapes sleeping man who wakes up to find her on top of him pinning him down' | Daily Mail Online
I would agree that women in such circumstances should not be allowed to have an abortion without the victim's consent. But, if we insist that she must maintain her full freedom to abort, then at the very least we need better public education on the subject of sexual assault and make it clear that that applies equally whether it is male-on-male, female-on-female, male-on-female, or female-on-male sexual assault and not make it seem like women cannot rape or men cannot be raped, or that an erection equals consent, etc.