NEB vs Province of Quebec

[PoliticalNick]

talk with the people on international laws if that is not good for you ;-)

It is an internal matter. It may well be a civil war soon. Nobody is going to interfere. You are on your own here and you don't have any leverage. You will be either brought to your knees or expelled from Canada. Sooner rather then later will be just fine.

 

[Queb]

International law isn't relevant. Canadian law and the desires of Canadian people is. Any area of Quebec that does not want to leave is entitled to remain in Canada. My bet is not one native band will wish to become citizens of the banana republic of Quebec.

yes and that makes canadian's future "Slobodan Milošević" happy ;-)

No doubt indigenous Quebecers would get their vite too. In fact at least one indigenous nation had its own parallel referendum to stay in Canada if Québec separated. Québec would be constitutionally bound to negotiate with its indigenous peoples, and I have no doubt that they would play the two sides in their own favour to see who could give them the best deal.

Not according to the international laws.

And canada will strongly hesitate before going to push on this interference.... because they will have to accept the same thing on their side.

It is an internal matter. It may well be a civil war soon. Nobody is going to interfere. You are on your own here and you don't have any leverage. You will be either brought to your knees or expelled from Canada. Sooner rather then later will be just fine.

tu vies vraiment dans un monde fantasmagorique toi

So you believe that a Province should control what passes through to other provinces. I hope you understand what that means for you. Newfound and Nova Scotia could block any marine traffic to all of Quebec.

By the way, the "other provinces" blocked Quebec project over their territory already.... nobody was crying in Alberta for this ;-)

 

[DaSleeper]

The stupidity of the separatist movement knows no bounds as we can plainly see with your postings.....


That is what the rest of Canada and most of Quebecers think of it according to the two referendums ......


And as you can see right here in the forum, your ranting and raving is not getting any traction...You're ideology is so blind that you can't even see that you're p*ssing into the wind...

 

[pgs]

Oh

I am impressed by the pragmatism, the value and relevance of your arguments.

Keep going

All this gives me some beautiful examples of the hatred of canadians for Quebecers and the Canada impasse for Quebec.


I'll make a nice compilation of all this to show how are canadians to my fellow Québécois supporters of Canada that never fail to tell me that Canadians are not all "like that".



about 50%.....

But about nobody from the ROC can "function" in a Quebec forum.

Good you know how we feel now piis off .

 

[Queb]

The stupidity of the separatist movement knows no bounds as we can plainly see with your postings.....


That is what the rest of Canada and most of Quebecers think of it according to the two referendums ......


And as you can see right here in the forum, your ranting and raving is not getting any traction...You're ideology is so blind that you can't even see that you're p*ssing into the wind...

oh I am not surprise. Believe me. That's why I am sovereignist. Their is nothing to do with canadian hatering, it's too much deeply anchoring in the Britanno-canadian culture.

Good you know how we feel now piis off .

Because you think that we are not piss off ? ;-)

 

[Machjo]

According to international law, what is the difference between Québec voting to separate from Canada and an indigenous nation voting to separate from Québec?

 

[PoliticalNick]

oh I am not surprise. Believe me. That's why I am sovereignist. Their is nothing to do with canadian hatering, it's too much deeply anchoring in the Britanno-canadian culture.



Because you think that we are not piss off ? ;-)

There is no such thing as Britanno-Canadian culture. There is only Canadian culture and french-Canadian culture. We do not consider ourselves anything other than Canadian. You conversely put french first which is why you are despised by the west. Funny thing is you are despised by the real French also. You have alienated both sides of your claimed culture and heritage. That alone should give you some guidance that yu may have been in error but I stead of recognizing your shortcomings you just get even more arrogant and ignorant. So be it. You have painted yourselves into a corner and there is no successful way out for you now.

 

[Machjo]

There is no such thing as Britanno-Canadian culture. There is only Canadian culture and french-Canadian culture. We do not consider ourselves anything other than Canadian. You conversely put french first which is why you are despised by the west. Funny thing is you are despised by the real French also. You have alienated both sides of your claimed culture and heritage. That alone should give you some guidance that yu may have been in error but I stead of recognizing your shortcomings you just get even more arrogant and ignorant. So be it. You have painted yourselves into a corner and there is no successful way out for you now.

What you claim to be 'Canadian culture' merely reveals your own prejudices. Any non-English Canadian would recognise it for what it is: English-Cabadian culture that shares more in common with English culture than it does with other Canadian cultures.

Quebecers often make the same mistake when they fail to recognise that what they call Québec culture is actually French-Quebec culture with more in common with French culture than with other Québec cultures.

For example, the Cree in both Québec and Ontario share more in common with one another than they do with English-Canadians or French-Quebecers.

If we are talking about a purely non-ethnic culture, then we're talking about a purely official culture as it is practiced in official government institutions and in the Constitution and the laws.

 

[petros]

domaine éminent

 

[PoliticalNick]

What you claim to be 'Canadian culture' merely reveals your own prejudices. Any non-English Canadian would recognise it for what it is: English-Cabadian culture that shares more in common with English culture than it does with other Canadian cultures.

Quebecers often make the same mistake when they fail to recognise that what they call Québec culture is actually French-Quebec culture with more in common with French culture than with other Québec cultures.

For example, the Cree in both Québec and Ontario share more in common with one another than they do with English-Canadians or French-Quebecers.

The rest of Canada is very multi-cultural. Huge populations of East Indians and Asians, large groups of eastern Europeans and an rapidly increasing group from Oceania and many other smaller contributing nations. We all basically get along and work together to improve our lives. It's a shame that foreigners will be better partners than those supposed to be our bretheren from the start.

 

[Queb]

According to international law, what is the difference between Québec voting to separate from Canada and an indigenous nation voting to separate from Québec?

Québec is a state.

There is no such thing as Britanno-Canadian culture. There is only Canadian culture and french-Canadian culture. We do not consider ourselves anything other than Canadian. You conversely put french first which is why you are despised by the west. Funny thing is you are despised by the real French also. You have alienated both sides of your claimed culture and heritage. That alone should give you some guidance that yu may have been in error but I stead of recognizing your shortcomings you just get even more arrogant and ignorant. So be it. You have painted yourselves into a corner and there is no successful way out for you now.

Yes you are right everybody hate us... so that's justify your own hatering.

good for you

 

[Machjo]

According to international law, Canada is a state. Quebec isn't.

I'm not necessarily against Québec sovereignty. I'm just pointing out that Quebec's present international status is no different than that of Kitigan Zibi.

The rest of Canada is very multi-cultural. Huge populations of East Indians and Asians, large groups of eastern Europeans and an rapidly increasing group from Oceania and many other smaller contributing nations. We all basically get along and work together to improve our lives. It's a shame that foreigners will be better partners than those supposed to be our bretheren from the start.

Really? So why do Anglos in Richmond BC always bitch and complain about Chinese-only commercial signs?

To be clear, I have no problem with the government imposing official unilingualism of one official language of government administration on itself. In fact, I'd welcome that.

But in the private sector, unless there is a compelling safety reasons, it crosses a line.

And no double standard here. I say the same about Québec. One official language of government, fine. But leave the private sector alone.

 

[Queb]

According to international law, Canada is a state. Quebec isn't.

I'm not necessarily against Québec sovereignty. I'm just pointing out that Quebec's present international status is no different than that of Kitigan Zibi.



Really? So why do Anglos in Richmond BC always bitch and complain about Chinese-only commercial signs?

To be clear, I have no problem with the government imposing official unilingualism of one official language of government administration on itself. In fact, I'd welcome that.

But in the private sector, unless there is a compelling safety reasons, it crosses a line.

And no double standard here. I say the same about Québec. One official language of government, fine. But leave the private sector alone.

Non le Québec est un état. Le canada est une fédération.

 

[Machjo]

Non le Québec est un état. Le canada est une fédération.

Et les peuples autochtones ont des traités avec le Canada et non pas le Québec.

 

[petros]

Québec is a state.



Yes you are right everybody hate us... so that's justify your own hatering.

good for you

Ummmmmm NON!

 

[Queb]

Et les peuples autochtones ont des traités avec le Canada et non pas le Québec.

Non pas vraiment. Les traités ont été fait avec la couronne Britannique et "succédés" au gouvernement de la fédération. Les traités seront succédés de la même façon au Québec.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Québec is a state.

It's a province dipsh^t!

Yes you are right everybody hate us

I know I'm right. If you know it also one would think you would do something to try to correct that instead of making it worse.

so that's justify your own hatering.

WTF is hatering? Oh yeah, you don't speak English. Of course you don't speak French either, just ask the actual French. LOL

good for you

Yep, I'll always do what's good for me and my family. Getting rid of quebec is one of those things.

 

[Machjo]

It's a province dipsh^t!

I know I'm right. If you know it also one would think you would do something to try to correct that instead of making it worse.

WTF is hatering? Oh yeah, you don't speak English. Of course you don't speak French either, just ask the actual French. LOL

Yep, I'll always do what's good for me and my family. Getting rid of quebec is one of those things.

Do you know a second language or do you just expect the world to cater to you.

Seeing that Quebec's is actually making an effort to communicate to communicate to you in your language, that sivereignist is showing you more patriotism than you are showing him.

 

[PoliticalNick]

Do you know a second language or do you just expect the world to cater to you.

Seeing that Quebec's is actually making an effort to communicate to communicate to you in your language, that sivereignist is showing you more patriotism than you are showing him.

His 'patriotism' is toward quebec only and what the quebecois see as best for them. My patriotism is toward Canada as a whole and what is best for the entirety of Canada which happens to be getting rid of the quebecois or quebec entirely if need be. C'est la vie!

 

[DaSleeper]

Quebis just a lackey for some crooked politician in Quebec who would rather be a big fish in a smaller pond, "Quebec" than a little fish in a pig pond "Canada"