Global Warming: still the ‘Greatest Scam in History’

[Bar Sinister]

Here's an opportunity to update your thinking, Walter. (I'd pay close attention)


Climate Change: Antarctica Glacier Ice Melt May Be Worse

Walter and thinking are a contradiction in terms. Like most climate change deniers he is determined to ignore any data that contradicts the propaganda spewed forth by big oil and the coal industry.

No. Sir, it was sh-t. Winter style rain and low clouds. I have been driving to work through cloud for most of the year with the last two weeks being the exception.

And you don't see that as possible climate change because...?

 

[petros]

I don't see it as human induced. Wake up.

 

[Walter]

I don't see it as human induced. Wake up.

True believers believe humans are a cancer on Gaia.

 

[petros]

So why did Gaia create us? Are they suddenly God believers that has us created separately?

 

[Walter]

So why did Gaia create us? Are they suddenly God believers that has us created separately?

Dunno.

 

[darkbeaver]

Cooling Globally, IPCC Tries to Suppress Research

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Exact Dates Given for Grand Solar Minimum Cooling commencing Globally in a paper by Zharkova, Shepherd, Popova and Zharkov, then the IPCC Tried to Suppress Research by asking the Royal Astronomical Society to remove the findings through the groups of scientific organizations associated with the IPCC. So much research is out in the world about the commencing grand solar minimum, the the lack of government action must have an agenda behind it.


investmentwatchblog.com/exact-dates-given-for-grand-solar-minimum-cooling-globally-ipcc-tries-to-suppress-research/

 

[petros]

Dunno.

They sure like blending the two perspectives.

 

[JLM]

We had rain last night.

And we had wind!

 

[Walter]

And we had wind!

I ate beans and kept the bed warm.

 

[JLM]

Walter and thinking are a contradiction in terms. Like most climate change deniers he is determined to ignore any data that contradicts the propaganda spewed forth by big oil and the coal industry.



And you don't see that as possible climate change because...?

I think with issues like this where there is some doubt, you have to act according to the worst case scenario to ensure safety. We see new records being set in extreme weather across North America almost on a weekly basis. Only a fool can ignore that.

 

[taxslave]

I think with issues like this where there is some doubt, you have to act according to the worst case scenario to ensure safety. We see new records being set in extreme weather across North America almost on a weekly basis. Only a fool can ignore that.

How old are the records to start with? I doubt there are any accurate records from say 1657.

 

[darkbeaver]

Walter and thinking are a contradiction in terms. Like most climate change deniers he is determined to ignore any data that contradicts the propaganda spewed forth by big oil and the coal industry.

It seems to me that you would be in the climate change denier catagory easily especially since you think, with no proof whatever, that climate change can be affected globally by the human race. Give your head a shake, do the physics, this planet does not even notice the combined weight of mankind nor any of the species works. You are perhaps an example of human conciet in that you believe that we have evolved to represent a dangerous challenge to this planets dynamics. Not a chance. We are a tiny smudge on the windshield of this cosmic vehicle.

 

[JLM]

How old are the records to start with? I doubt there are any accurate records from say 1657.

I would say any records prior to 1900 are irrelevant today. Extreme weather today causes so much more havoc than extreme weather in the 1600s or even 1800s. Just take the complexity of the average house today compared to what we were living in even 50 years ago and the same goes for transportation corridors, waste systems, not to mention the world population is 6 times what it was a century ago. Our main concern is the probably damage caused by extreme weather.

 

[darkbeaver]

We haven't had any extreme extreme weather yet though. The soalar minimum will change that faster than CO2 I bet.

 

[taxslave]

I would say any records prior to 1900 are irrelevant today. Extreme weather today causes so much more havoc than extreme weather in the 1600s or even 1800s. Just take the complexity of the average house today compared to what we were living in even 50 years ago and the same goes for transportation corridors, waste systems, not to mention the world population is 6 times what it was a century ago. Our main concern is the probably damage caused by extreme weather.

So it is impossible to claim we had record high temperatures with nothing to compare to except what happened last year.

 

[JLM]

So it is impossible to claim we had record high temperatures with nothing to compare to except what happened last year.

Well, the last hundred years and beyond that, it's a moot point.

 

[petros]

I think with issues like this where there is some doubt, you have to act according to the worst case scenario to ensure safety. We see new records being set in extreme weather across North America almost on a weekly basis. Only a fool can ignore that.

They aren't new records. They are very limited records from a 120 and less year window.

 

[Walter]

We see new records being set in extreme weather across North America almost on a weekly basis. Only a fool can ignore that.

Ignore what?

 

[Ron in Regina]

I would say any records prior to 1900 are irrelevant today. Extreme weather today causes so much more havoc than extreme weather in the 1600s or even 1800s. Just take the complexity of the average house today compared to what we were living in even 50 years ago and the same goes for transportation corridors, waste systems, not to mention the world population is 6 times what it was a century ago. Our main concern is the probably damage caused by extreme weather.

How do you know this? How can you say that that weather today causes so much more havoc than
weather a couple hundred years ago? Unless you measure to compare, you can't compare....

The complexity of the average house today compared to what we were living in even 50 years ago and
the same goes for transportation corridors, waste systems, not to mention the world population is 6
times what it was a century ago.....has what bearing on the weather then or now?

How do you measure damage? How it affects an individual? How it impacts society as a whole? An F5
twister wipes out a farm, or a few farms, but leaves the others around it alone. To the farmers that are
left homeless & income-less.....this is a horrific tragedy, but to the neighbor who where not directly
impacted by this event, how do you measure that? Tough calls to make unless you have all the data to
compare one to the next....

 

[darkbeaver]

I read some history, they mentioned extreme weather quite often, you can still get thier terror in mythology where history is kept.

How do you know this? How can you say that that weather today causes so much more havoc than
weather a couple hundred years ago? Unless you measure to compare, you can't compare....

The complexity of the average house today compared to what we were living in even 50 years ago and
the same goes for transportation corridors, waste systems, not to mention the world population is 6
times what it was a century ago.....has what bearing on the weather then or now?

How do you measure damage? How it affects an individual? How it impacts society as a whole? An F5
twister wipes out a farm, or a few farms, but leaves the others around it alone. To the farmers that are
left homeless & income-less.....this is a horrific tragedy, but to the neighbor who where not directly
impacted by this event, how do you measure that? Tough calls to make unless you have all the data to
compare one to the next....

I think some of us are human supremists and have been conditioned to think we matter to the material world, we don't, not by weight nor speed, nor by intelligence, we are at it's mercy for good cause. We haven't had a decent volcanic eruption in hundreds of years.