What is love and compassion Motar? There is a proverb that says, ~ the wounds from a friend are better than kisses from the enemy~ All about perspective. I've known religious people who wear the mask of love and kindness most of my life, only to find out that when others needed a helping hand up, those same people shed their masks and turned the other way. Do not assume that your belief is a qualification for empathy. History has shown the opposite to be true.
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Trying to "wake others up" can be a sign of arrogance, Cliffy. Only God can judge motives.
Why are you here on this Christian discussion thread if not to promote Christ?
Christ is a state of consciousness, not a person. In the original Aramaic texts Jesus said, "I am a son of god" and "we are all children of god". He never put himself above anybody. He came to serve human kind, to raise them up into Christ consciousness. The stuff about the deification of Jesus was added much later and stands in direct opposition to his message of loving your brothers and sisters. We are all One. All made of the same stuff, stardust. Anything that separates us is in opposition to the teaching of Jesus. Religion is in opposition to that in that it separates us from our brothers and sisters with a sense of superiority ("I am saved and you are not" mentality).
Is that your thinking, Cliffy? Are you saved and others are not?
The metaphor that best fits the Christian life for me is that of "one beggar informing another beggar where to find bread."
"Then Jesus declared, 'I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty." (John 6:35 NIV)
New International Version:
The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/16-1.htm
He replied, "When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,'
Matthew 16:2 He replied, "When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,'
the numbers 16.2 or 16.22 refer to the divisions on a compass ROSE - 16 divisions of 22.5
which = 360 degrees
The Working Celtic Cross
just like revelations 16.22
Revelation 22:16New International Version (NIV)
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22:16
Its SAILOR TALK - the cross leads because it is a NAVIGATIONAL INSTRUMENT
you kneel before it to sight UP the bear or take a bearing...
flo flock flotila the shepard with his crook is a bastardization of that image
The morning star is VENUS or as it was always know back then as LUCIFER.
It is the light bringer because Venus precedes the sun at sun rise half the year.
the mouth with the flaming sword for a tongue doing the yacking is the constellation Orion.
The candle sticks on its right are the constelation Monoceros
dayvid is the root of the words DAY and VIDeo
Vid = to see
The REAL DIVINE CHI code ( constantine chi (x)and Rho (p or sometimes 9)... eh?)
The movie and book are just there to deliberately effe up your heads
The star man of divinci is what venus's orbit looks like compared to earth's when viewed from the perspective of the sun.
360 divided by 5 points = 72
the years it takes to travel one degree of the procession of the equinoxes
If you were to look you might find "our lord Amen" chiseled in stone all over the damn planet
it referes to Menes ( manis, minos, manistusu...etc ) the great admiral, the first pharaoh of the united Egypts. ( the egyptians left out the vowels )
the cross or anhk was the instrument they used to measure angles...survey navigate build
one was found in the sealed shaft of the great pyramid at giza
You christians and all you other monotheistic diety worshipers) have it so damn wrong
and I don't see any hope you you ever getting it right in this lifetime
and as far as being saved:
I'll stand before my creator as I am, and I will take responsibility for my life myself
thank you very much
oh by the way:
the number of the beast is your PIN number ( from the p/ rho)
it's on your BANK CARD ( you know the bankers in temple )
Soon to be "can't buy or sell without it" in the cashless society
And 666 breaks down into .27 anong other things, which with 360 giver you .oo or caliber
.oo27 is the reciprocal of 360 and a quotient of 6 into 6 into 10
( there is one more number and one more 6 as well)
X caliber
The nights of the round table are the constellations which are/were used to navigate with in the old (pre christian ) system which goes back some 30 thousand years.
which explains this:
The Windover Archeological Site is an Early Archaic (6000 to 5000 BC) archaeological site found in Brevard County near Titusville, Florida, USA, on the central east coast of the state. Windover is a muck pond where skeletal remains of 168 individuals were found buried in the peat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windover_Archeological_Site
WHITE RED HAIRED PEOPLE IN FLORIDA 7000 years ago
The secret societies that run the planet know this
At the appropriate time they will be pulling the rug out from under the religious when it is time to slam the prison gates shut on humanity for ever
The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by asking him to show them a sign from heaven.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/16-1.htm
He replied, "When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,'
Matthew 16:2 He replied, "When evening comes, you say, 'It will be fair weather, for the sky is red,'
the numbers 16.2 or 16.22 refer to the divisions on a compass ROSE - 16 divisions of 22.5
which = 360 degrees
The Working Celtic Cross
just like revelations 16.22
Revelation 22:16New International Version (NIV)
16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you[a] this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+22:16
Its SAILOR TALK - the cross leads because it is a NAVIGATIONAL INSTRUMENT
you kneel before it to sight UP the bear or take a bearing...
flo flock flotila the shepard with his crook is a bastardization of that image
The morning star is VENUS or as it was always know back then as LUCIFER.
It is the light bringer because Venus precedes the sun at sun rise half the year.
the mouth with the flaming sword for a tongue doing the yacking is the constellation Orion.
The candle sticks on its right are the constelation Monoceros
dayvid is the root of the words DAY and VIDeo
Vid = to see
The REAL DIVINE CHI code ( constantine chi (x)and Rho (p or sometimes 9)... eh?)
The movie and book are just there to deliberately effe up your heads
The star man of divinci is what venus's orbit looks like compared to earth's when viewed from the perspective of the sun.
360 divided by 5 points = 72
the years it takes to travel one degree of the procession of the equinoxes
If you were to look you might find "our lord Amen" chiseled in stone all over the damn planet
it referes to Menes ( manis, minos, manistusu...etc ) the great admiral, the first pharaoh of the united Egypts. ( the egyptians left out the vowels )
the cross or anhk was the instrument they used to measure angles...survey navigate build
one was found in the sealed shaft of the great pyramid at giza
You christians and all you other monotheistic diety worshipers) have it so damn wrong
and I don't see any hope you you ever getting it right in this lifetime
and as far as being saved:
I'll stand before my creator as I am, and I will take responsibility for my life myself
thank you very much
oh by the way:
the number of the beast is your PIN number ( from the p/ rho)
it's on your BANK CARD ( you know the bankers in temple )
Soon to be "can't buy or sell without it" in the cashless society
And 666 breaks down into .27 anong other things, which with 360 giver you .oo or caliber
.oo27 is the reciprocal of 360 and a quotient of 6 into 6 into 10
( there is one more number and one more 6 as well)
X caliber
The nights of the round table are the constellations which are/were used to navigate with in the old (pre christian ) system which goes back some 30 thousand years.
which explains this:
The Windover Archeological Site is an Early Archaic (6000 to 5000 BC) archaeological site found in Brevard County near Titusville, Florida, USA, on the central east coast of the state. Windover is a muck pond where skeletal remains of 168 individuals were found buried in the peat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windover_Archeological_Site
WHITE RED HAIRED PEOPLE IN FLORIDA 7000 years ago
The secret societies that run the planet know this
At the appropriate time they will be pulling the rug out from under the religious when it is time to slam the prison gates shut on humanity for ever
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Where the heck did you get that from what I said? Religion is what separates as brothers and sisters.
There is no need for salvation. We are all part of the All That Is. We are all created the same and of the same stuff. We are the eyes and ears of the Creator. There is no separation. Nobody is going to hell or heaven. Those are fictional places. The Universe/Life/God/Creator are eternal. There is no beginning and no end. Life is a continuum. You and I are just one infinitesimal aspect of Everything. You are looking for something that does not exist.
Words can only convey someone else's truth. They can be fingers pointing a way to the truth, but truth, your truth, can only be found in your experiences. Everything else is just opinion. The irony is that I write books about it.
Have you ever heard of the death of the author? Words cannot convey someone's else's truth if the reader doesn't interpret them that way.
Our experiences in life is what colours our perception. It is impossible to know what is in another persons mind because we don't know what journey has brought them to their truth. We can only interpret their words through the filters of our mind. Thus I say, the truth in only relative to the beholder. No two people have had the same experiences in life, therefore, no two people perceive life the same way. There are over 7 billion different perspectives. Everybody is right unto themselves. If people would recognize that, there would be no need to argue and fight.
Yeah, so what I'm saying is that you can find truth in someone else's words interpreted through your perceptions.
"If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself." - Augustine
I reject the gospels because I know too much about the who, where, whys and hows they were put together. I trust my intuition because through it I am connected to the All That Is.
I agree, think of the enemy though, or perish, you want to overcome, with nice of course, the truely powerfull conquer with nice. In order tomweild nicesend me some money for the summer enlightenmenty. Yes you wlll have to eat bugs.
Couldn't have said it better myself Darkbungchute. You should be behind the podium.