It's time to ban assault weapons in the U.S.

Curious Cdn

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The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States has exactly NOTHING to do with hunting.

The Second Amendment to the Constiution of the United States has exactly NOTHING to do with idiots keeping Glocks under their pillows or poseurs living Rambo fantasies with look-alike military firearms. The closest that the Second Ammendment probably gets is that farmers should keep a musket handy as there is no pernanent army in the USA, yet. That one passed its sell-by date circa 1800.
 

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The Second Amendment to the Constiution of the United States has exactly NOTHING to do with idiots keeping Glocks under their pillows or poseurs living Rambo fantasies with look-alike military firearms. The closest that the Second Ammendment probably gets is that farmers should keep a musket handy as there is no pernanent army in the USA, yet. That one passed its sell-by date circa 1800.

If that is so, then the right to free speech only includes what you shout, or print on presses circa 1786, or write with a quill pen.

The Second Amendment is intended to protect the people from the State.

You're a moron.
 

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If that is so, then the right to free speech only includes what you shout, or print on presses circa 1786, or write with a quill pen.

The Second Amendment is intended to protect the people from the State.

You're a moron.

You are another nut bar. Hopefully,someone has generated a big file on you for thinkng that you have to arm yorself against the State. The rest of us need to be protected from you and delusional assh0les like you.
 

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So what are you trying to accomplish by enabling them?

I have to disagree with you. In my opinion it is you that wants to enable them. It is you that wants to ban assault rifles, pat yourself on the back, then go home.

Meanwhile the crazies remain unidentified and free to find/illegally buy/make whatever weapon that gets them through the planning stage of their crazy shooting spree.

Your solution is so callously ineffective and worthless. It leaves me wondering if you truly want to stop these crazies.

You are another nut bar. Hopefully,someone has generated a big file on you for thinkng that you have to arm yorself against the State. The rest of us need to be protected from you and delusional assh0les like you.

The concept of arming yourself against the state is extremely obvious in the declaration of independence. If the second ammendment wasn't built on the same principles, the I would suggest that we should all be asking ourselves with happened.
 

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I have to disagree with you. In my opinion it is you that wants to enable them. It is you that wants to ban assault rifles, pat yourself on the back, then go home.

Meanwhile the crazies remain unidentified and free to find/illegally buy/make whatever weapon that gets them through the planning stage of their crazy shooting spree.

Your solution is so callously ineffective and worthless. It leaves me wondering if you truly want to stop these crazies.



The concept of arming yourself against the state is extremely obvious in the declaration of independence. If the second ammendment wasn't built on the same principles, the I would suggest that we should all be asking ourselves with happened.
The concept of arming yourself against your own government is treasonous and should lead to your arrest. If it is "extremly obvious" in the Declaration of Independance that their government represents that level of threat to the citizenry, the American Revolution was clearly a failure and a sham.

Timothy McVey felt just as you do. Unfortunate!y, he was free to spout his nonsense, as well.

So, all of you Hillbilly geniuses out there. How does this:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

... translate into a call to arm yourselves against your government?

What I do see is the need to arm the citizenry at a time when there was no professional US Army. Each State in the Union did maintain militias, too and kept them up after a professional Federal Army was put together leading to some confusion and defeat during the War of 1812.

This whacko blather that you guys spout about why hou need to own military armaments to "protect yourselves" from what? ...the formal rule of law is how it translates ... comes from the extremist and terrorist fringe that festers in he shadows of the USA. If CSIS snd he Mounties fail to do their jobs properly, it will gain a foothold in this peaceful land, as well.

Your guns should be taken away from you immediately, treasonous scumbags.
 
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LThe concept of arming yourself against your own government is treasonous and should lead to your arrest. If it is "extremly obvious" in the Declaration of Independance that their government represents that level of threat to the citizenry, the American Revolution was clearly a failure and a sham.

Timothy McVey felt just as you do. Unfortunate!y, he was free to spout his nonsense, as well.

So, all of you Hillbilly geniuses out there. How does this:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

... translate into a call to arm yourselves against your government?

What I do see is the need to arm the citizenry at a time when there was no professional US Army. Each State in the Union did maintain militias, too and kept them up after a professional Federal Army was put together leading to some confusion and defeat during the War of 1812.

This whacko blather that you guys spout about why hou need to own military armaments to "protect yourselves" from what? ...the formal rule of law is how it translates ... comes from the extremist and terrorist fringe that festers in he shadows of the USA. If CSIS snd he Mounties fail to do their jobs properly, it will gain a foothold in this peaceful land, as well.

Your guns should be taken away from you immediately, treasonous scumbags.

1. A Bill of Rights, is, by definition, a list of restrictions on government power. Nowhere ever did a Bill of Rights include a clause that granted the State any right, including the right to bear arms. The idea that the Second Amendment exists to grant state's rights is simply ludicrous.

2. The phrase "well-regulated" in the parlance of the 18th century meant "well practised", in other words, a militia well practised with their weapons, as they would be with weapons they owned.

3. The definition of militia in the US Code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Code) is "
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age

4. Even if number (2) and (3) were not true, then any competent English teacher would tell you that the initial explanatory phrase of the Amendment in no way changes or modifies the declaratary phrase "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not be Infringed" What part of that do you not understand?

5. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

6. "What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

7. "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

8. "I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

9. "Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

10. "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

11. "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

Beginning to get the idea?
 

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The FAL looks all scary. The Remington is reassuring because it looks kinda like a cowboy gun.

That's not sarcastic. It really is the basis of the anti-"assault weapon" crowd's alleged thinking. Ignorance and feels.

That pretty much sums up the debate. We are arguing with morons that someone inadvertently permitted to vote.
 

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So, all of you Hillbilly geniuses out there. How does this:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

... translate into a call to arm yourselves against your government?

What I do see is the need to arm the citizenry at a time when there was no professional US Army. Each State in the Union did maintain militias, too and kept them up after a professional Federal Army was put together leading to some confusion and defeat during the War of 1812.
Of course that's what you see. It's what you want to see.

The military (and the National Guard, which gun-banners claim took the place of the militia) is a creature of the state. The militia is a creature of the people.

This whacko blather that you guys spout about why hou need to own military armaments to "protect yourselves" from what? ...the formal rule of law is how it translates ... comes from the extremist and terrorist fringe that festers in he shadows of the USA. If CSIS snd he Mounties fail to do their jobs properly, it will gain a foothold in this peaceful land, as well.

Your guns should be taken away from you immediately, treasonous scumbags.
That would violate the Constitution. Not that the state has any problem with that, mind.
 

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LThe concept of arming yourself against your own government is treasonous and should lead to your arrest. If it is "extremly obvious" in the Declaration of Independance that their government represents that level of threat to the citizenry, the American Revolution was clearly a failure and a sham.

Timothy McVey felt just as you do. Unfortunate!y, he was free to spout his nonsense, as well.

So, all of you Hillbilly geniuses out there. How does this:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

... translate into a call to arm yourselves against your government?

What I do see is the need to arm the citizenry at a time when there was no professional US Army. Each State in the Union did maintain militias, too and kept them up after a professional Federal Army was put together leading to some confusion and defeat during the War of 1812.

This whacko blather that you guys spout about why hou need to own military armaments to "protect yourselves" from what? ...the formal rule of law is how it translates ... comes from the extremist and terrorist fringe that festers in he shadows of the USA. If CSIS snd he Mounties fail to do their jobs properly, it will gain a foothold in this peaceful land, as well.

Your guns should be taken away from you immediately, treasonous scumbags.

You clearly have no idea what freedom means or how it is protected. A well armed populace is what keeps the government under control.
 

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LThe concept of arming yourself against your own government is treasonous and should lead to your arrest. If it is "extremly obvious" in the Declaration of Independance that their government represents that level of threat to the citizenry, the American Revolution was clearly a failure and a sham.

Timothy McVey felt just as you do. Unfortunate!y, he was free to spout his nonsense, as well.

So, all of you Hillbilly geniuses out there. How does this:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

... translate into a call to arm yourselves against your government?

What I do see is the need to arm the citizenry at a time when there was no professional US Army. Each State in the Union did maintain militias, too and kept them up after a professional Federal Army was put together leading to some confusion and defeat during the War of 1812.

This whacko blather that you guys spout about why hou need to own military armaments to "protect yourselves" from what? ...the formal rule of law is how it translates ... comes from the extremist and terrorist fringe that festers in he shadows of the USA. If CSIS snd he Mounties fail to do their jobs properly, it will gain a foothold in this peaceful land, as well.

Your guns should be taken away from you immediately, treasonous scumbags.
Why did the German government confiscate their citizens guns prior to declaring Hitler Chancellor for life .
Even democratically elected governments are not always your friend .
 

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You clearly have no idea what freedom means or how it is protected. A well armed populace is what keeps the government under control.

Why don't we just pay them more instead of letting the market decide/ How much does a ton of Legislation cost?

Forward or we chop off your head, thisn would excite excellance in civil servants. Production based economies are popular these days, who wants to be serviced? Go **** yourself , we can count you service idiot. East will rule, and you will enjoy the spent.
 

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1. A Bill of Rights, is, by definition, a list of restrictions on government power. Nowhere ever did a Bill of Rights include a clause that granted the State any right, including the right to bear arms. The idea that the Second Amendment exists to grant state's rights is simply ludicrous.

2. The phrase "well-regulated" in the parlance of the 18th century meant "well practised", in other words, a militia well practised with their weapons, as they would be with weapons they owned.

3. The definition of militia in the US Code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Code) is "
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age

4. Even if number (2) and (3) were not true, then any competent English teacher would tell you that the initial explanatory phrase of the Amendment in no way changes or modifies the declaratary phrase "The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms Shall Not be Infringed" What part of that do you not understand?

5. "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

6. "What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

7. "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

8. "I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

9. "Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

10. "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778

11. "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

Beginning to get the idea?


You're fecking twisted. What squirrelly Yank militia taught you this garbage? Have they rounded up any of the others, yet? You know that McVey got the death penalty. right?

Don't let the door hit your *** when you move down to your gun utopia. With a little luck, you'll remove yourself and your weapons from this peaceable country where they are not wanted and where none of the above pseudo-history applies to the rule of law, here. We have our own Constitution, history and custom and none of the above apply. Don't like that? Adios.

Beginning to get the idea?

You clearly have no idea what freedom means or how it is protected. A well armed populace is what keeps the government under control.

We have no such custom or history of that in Canada. You are admitting that you are a potential enemy of the Crown. There is no legal "well armed militia" here other thsn those directly sanctioned by the Crown like, say, the Canadian Rangers.
 

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I was referencing the bombing you have recently mentioned. Next question, do you know what a 'false flag' operation is?
 

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So what are you trying to accomplish by enabling them? You really need wannabee weapons like AR-25 look-alikes to hunt deer? No other choices? What did they do before the automatics? How did they cope? How could they hunted without squeezing off multiple rounds?

Sorry to say it but the wants of hobbiests like you do not justify us having these weapons in the open market. It's not worth the risk to the rest of us. If you just have to handle weapons like these, join the Army. They've got good ones.

Typical retarded lefty logic. Ban something because of a few crazies that are not going to obey the law anyway. Did you know that automatic handguns are prohibited in Canada?

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You're fecking twisted. What squirrelly Yank militia taught you this garbage? Have they rounded up any of the others, yet? You know that McVey got the death penalty. right?

Don't let the door hit your *** when you move down to your gun utopia. With a little luck, you'll remove yourself and your weapons from this peaceable country where they are not wanted and where none of the above pseudo-history applies to the rule of law, here. We have our own Constitution, history and custom and none of the above apply. Don't like that? Adios.

Beginning to get the idea?



We have no such custom or history of that in Canada. You are admitting that you are a potential enemy of the Crown. There is no legal "well armed militia" here other thsn those directly sanctioned by the Crown like, say, the Canadian Rangers.

Every time you post you make yourselv look a little stupider. There is no prize for dumbest person in the room.