Gun Control is Completely Useless.

[bluebyrd35]

There are no canadian laws in the usa. Yet the infant drownings are even higher than bbird's paradise.

Once again ......try reading what is written! What I posted was:-

"Now I will address the cherry picking. Who cherry picks stats that mean zip....you and others like you who want Canada to adopt the US laws,"

And of course with Canadian laws, why shouldn't there be more infant drownings than shootings, Now it is time to enforce the swimming pool laws. Of course there will be accidents.

The point of safety laws is to prevent as many of those accidents as possible.

If you own guns in this country, and that is important to you, you have only one friend in Parliament; the Conservative Party of Canada

This past weekend a motion was passed modifying the CPC Policy on firearms ownership;

"A Conservative Government will not deprive Canadian Citizens of legally owned firearms"
"A Conservative Government recognizes that civilian firearms ownership is a Canadian Heritage."
"A Conservative Government would streamline Firearms classification by adopting the Simplified Classification System"
"A Conservative Government would order a review of firearms related laws to identify parts that have no public safety value."

The motion passed with near 100% support from the membership.

It is the right of Canadians to buy alcohol and cigarettes, chewing tobacco etc. But like the gun laws, there are laws to protect children. That does not prevent children becoming drug addicts, smoking or drinking when they can get access to cigarettes, alcohol, or drugs.

Personally, I would not teach my children to smoke safely, use drugs safely nor drink alcohol safely, because with children there is no "Safely" until they have developed enough brain power to see the consequences of their actions. With some people this extends to the mid-twenties.

 

[JLM]

Personally, I would not teach my children to smoke safely, use drugs safely nor drink alcohol safely, because with children there is no "Safely" until they have developed enough brain power to see the consequences of their actions. With some people this extends to the mid-twenties.

I have to admit your last paragraph makes sense! You're improving!

 

[Colpy]

I posted;

If you own guns in this country, and that is important to you, you have only one friend in Parliament; the Conservative Party of Canada

This past weekend a motion was passed modifying the CPC Policy on firearms ownership;

"A Conservative Government will not deprive Canadian Citizens of legally owned firearms"
"A Conservative Government recognizes that civilian firearms ownership is a Canadian Heritage."
"A Conservative Government would streamline Firearms classification by adopting the Simplified Classification System"
"A Conservative Government would order a review of firearms related laws to identify parts that have no public safety value."

The motion passed with near 100% support from the membership.

You replied:

It is the right of Canadians to buy alcohol and cigarettes, chewing tobacco etc. But like the gun laws, there are laws to protect children. That does not prevent children becoming drug addicts, smoking or drinking when they can get access to cigarettes, alcohol, or drugs.

Personally, I would not teach my children to smoke safely, use drugs safely nor drink alcohol safely, because with children there is no "Safely" until they have developed enough brain power to see the consequences of their actions. With some people this extends to the mid-twenties.

Which inevitably leads one to the obvious question; WTF are you talking about?

 

[JLM]

WTF are you talking about?

And here I was giving her credit for what I thought was a sign of some sense.

 

[JamesBondo]

Now it is time to enforce the swimming pool laws. Of course there will be accidents.

I support an all out ban on privately owned swimming pools. Swimming pool safety regulations are known to save lives, but saving some lives is not enough. If banning all privately owned swimming pools saves just one more life, then I say it is worth it.

All this talk about infringement on rights must be proportional to its intended benefit is total nonsense. Just one life is more important than the rights of 350+ million north americans.

 

[JLM]

I support an all out ban on privately owned swimming pools. Swimming pool safety regulations are known to save lives, but saving some lives is not enough. If banning all privately owned swimming pools saves just one more life, then I say it is worth it.

All this talk about infringement on rights must be proportional to its intended benefit is total nonsense. Just one life is more important than the rights of 350+ million north americans.

I think you might be on to something there, but when I extend the basic premise, I find there's a danger of it morphing into such concepts as if furnaces were banned in houses then one fire death might be avoided, or if automobiles were banned there may be some lives saved there. Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for.

 

[bluebyrd35]

I support an all out ban on privately owned swimming pools. Swimming pool safety regulations are known to save lives, but saving some lives is not enough. If banning all privately owned swimming pools saves just one more life, then I say it is worth it.

All this talk about infringement on rights must be proportional to its intended benefit is total nonsense. Just one life is more important than the rights of 350+ million north americans.

You going for an outright ban on rivers, lakes, oceans as well?? Or are you simply going to forbid anyone from swimming??


As I will repeat again GUNS are produced and used for one thing.......To KILL. That is what they are designed & manufactured for. That does not mean they cannot be used to hunt or target practice but their main purpose for being is to KILL.

Can you say the same for swimming?? Try for just a smidgen of common sense.

By the way, I will repeat again. I am not for banning guns, only from criminals, young children, mentally deranged from having easy access to them. You know like selling guns over the counter with no checks on those buying them.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

You going for an outright ban on rivers, lakes, oceans as well?? Or are you simply going to forbid anyone from swimming??


As I will repeat again GUNS are produced and used for one thing.......To KILL. That is what they are designed & manufactured for. That does not mean they cannot be used to hunt or target practice but their main purpose for being is to KILL.

Can you say the same for swimming?? Try for just a smidgen of common sense.

Thought you might like to know, blue. I'm picking up two new guns Saturday.

Yay.

 

[bluebyrd35]

Thought you might like to know, blue. I'm picking up two new guns Saturday.

Yay.

That's okay with me. I presume you have no intention of shooting up a school, or clinic or an office with them? Or are you afraid of the government? I assume it could out shoot, out bomb an attempt to overthrow it. Me I prefer to spend my money on trips, throwing a party for friends or even remodeling my home or garden.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

That's okay with me. I presume you have no intention of shooting up a school, or clinic or an office with them?

Only if they piss me off.

Or are you afraid of the government?

Why on earth would I be afraid of the government? I play the government like a fine violin. It's how I make my living.

I assume it could out shoot, out bomb an attempt to overthrow it.

Ya never know. Of course, if you're stupid, you automatically assume the government could and would use full military power against revolutionaries, despite hundreds of examples of that not happening.

Me I prefer to spend my money on trips, throwing a party for friends or even remodeling my home or garden.

Whatever floats your boat.

Been to Europe four times in the last year, currently remodeling my place, and had dinner with friends twice in the last week.

Guess you just don't have enough money.

 

[bluebyrd35]

Actually I do have enough money and I too went to Europe last year, but I took my family with me. Instead of returning two or three times, we simply spent 5 weeks there. As for remodeling, I do that every year in both houses, and I also had friends and relatives over last week. Having a swimming pool guarantees lots of visitors, most of which bring wine and dessert with them.

As for being stupid, all you have to do is read back on how many times, gun lovers here have used "protection from the government" as an excuse for owning a gun or an arsenal.

 

[Johnnny]

Guns don't kill people, people do..... Cars don't kill people, people do..... Guns are tools that are used the same as other tools. I grew up in a family that owns ALOT of guns and none of my family members have killed anyone. I myself may not be a gun owner but having lived with responsible gun handlers I know that guns themselves aren't the problem, it's the idiots that choose to abuse them. The same idiots that get killed driving ATVS recklessly which I also consider a tool.

 

[pgs]

You going for an outright ban on rivers, lakes, oceans as well?? Or are you simply going to forbid anyone from swimming??


As I will repeat again GUNS are produced and used for one thing.......To KILL. That is what they are designed & manufactured for. That does not mean they cannot be used to hunt or target practice but their main purpose for being is to KILL.

Can you say the same for swimming?? Try for just a smidgen of common sense.

By the way, I will repeat again. I am not for banning guns, only from criminals, young children, mentally deranged from having easy access to them. You know like selling guns over the counter with no checks on those buying them.

Yes you are right guns were designed for one thing and one thing only .( yuk yuk ) killing game and feeding the family .

That's okay with me. I presume you have no intention of shooting up a school, or clinic or an office with them? Or are you afraid of the government? I assume it could out shoot, out bomb an attempt to overthrow it. Me I prefer to spend my money on trips, throwing a party for friends or even remodeling my home or garden.

Whatever floats your boat.

Yes you are right guns were designed for one thing and one thing only .( yuk yuk ) killing game and feeding the family .

 

[bluebyrd35]

Cars are invented and used for traveling, Swimming pools are produced to swim. Hammers are used to hit nails, All those are tools but none has their first purpose to kill.

 

[pgs]

Actually I do have enough money and I too went to Europe last year, but I took my family with me. Instead of returning two or three times, we simply spent 5 weeks there. As for remodeling, I do that every year in both houses, and I also had friends and relatives over last week. Having a swimming pool guarantees lots of visitors, most of which bring wine and dessert with them.

As for being stupid, all you have to do is read back on how many times, gun lovers here have used "protection from the government" as an excuse for owning a gun or an arsenal.

Please keep up with the John's .

Cars are invented and used for traveling, Swimming pools are produced to swim. Hammers are used to hit nails, All those are tools but none has their first purpose to kill.

As is a gun , a dangerous tool in the wrong hands is a recipe for disaster .As with guns and children ,
why must we give the right to drive and maim to incompetent people ?

 

[bluebyrd35]

You got that wrong, others try to keep up to me. Just looking at my postings here, do you really think I follow??

Please keep up with the John's .


As is a gun , a dangerous tool in the wrong hands is a recipe for disaster .As with guns and children ,
why must we give the right to drive and maim to incompetent people ?

LOL......Well....a hand cannon was not meant for anything but a weapon. A weapon is a tool with a primary use, and that is for one thing. To kill and furthermore, it was meant to kill others of our own species.

By the way, that a gun is a dangerous tool and my main argument, is exactly that the laws we have in Canada are fine. My main argument is that gun control does work and we should NOT adopt the easy access to guns that the US has.


"It was in 1364 that mankind first recorded the use of a firearm. These weapons, called “hand cannons,” were the first step in the creation of guns. Just 14 years later, handguns were already making their way across Europe"

I posted;




You replied:



Which inevitably leads one to the obvious question; WTF are you talking about?

I see your comprehension problems are still with you!! .

Understand, this thread, as you know as you started it is, "Gun control is completely useless" By extention if these controls are completely useless, why would Canadians, want to change them?? Why elect another disastrous Conservative Government simply to correct a useless bunch of laws??

 

[Johnnny]

Cars are invented and used for traveling, Swimming pools are produced to swim. Hammers are used to hit nails, All those are tools but none has their first purpose to kill.

don't be so dense... Your advocating that the person behind a trigger automatically makes them a killer is a disservice to all the people who have only treated a gun as a tool, including my father and brother.... he hasn't killed anyone...

if when you see someone with a gun and can only associate them as a un educated killer than you are stupider than you think

gun control wont stop people from killing others either

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Guns don't kill people, people do..... Cars don't kill people, people do..... Guns are tools that are used the same as other tools. I grew up in a family that owns ALOT of guns and none of my family members have killed anyone. I myself may not be a gun owner but having lived with responsible gun handlers I know that guns themselves aren't the problem, it's the idiots that choose to abuse them. The same idiots that get killed driving ATVS recklessly which I also consider a tool.

Guns don't kill people.

Bullets do.

 

[JamesBondo]

Um...bluebird. WTF ARE you talking about?

There is no need for a privately owned swimming pool. If someone wants to swim, they can go to the community swimming pool. After all, we are talking about saving just one life. One life is surely more important than the right to own a swimming pool.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Um...bluebird. WTF ARE you talking about?

There is no need for a privately owned swimming pool. If someone wants to swim, they can go to the community swimming pool.

But only after they've been through a thorough background check, and only under police supervision.