This morning's tragedy in Florida says very little about guns but a whole lot about hatred toward one segment of society.
Gun Control is Completely Useless.
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This morning's tragedy in Florida says very little about guns but a whole lot about hatred toward one segment of society.
It tells us how effective one man with one assault rifle and one pistol (according to the police) gawd knows how nany pre-loaded magazines ... must have been hundreds of rounds ... can do.
These sorts of incidents are becoming so common (375 of them last year ... more than one a day) that most of them are no more memorable than traffic fatalities.
http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
This is what "Anarchy Lite" looks like. It's no wonder that a bombastic oligarch like Donald Trump can rise to the top of American politics and it all bodes ill for the future if that republic.
p.s. The one and only group out there who will likely do you no harm are the Gays. How fukcing cowardly can you get? This is as cowardly as shooting up an elementary school.
Since you mentioned Florida, let's compare oranges with oranges...
I once heard that ccw permit holder in Florida is over 4 and a half times less likely to use a firearm in a crime than non ccw permit holders in Florida.
Bluebird, your state clearly needs more ccw permit holders.
I once heard that ccw permit holder in Florida is over 4 and a half times less likely to use a firearm in a crime than non ccw permit holders in Florida.
Bluebird, your state clearly needs more ccw permit holders.
When do the daily mass shootings cease being "one offs"?
When you say so, probably. Support your agenda in spite of the evidence against it because you have somehow rationalized that it isn't real.
https://www.vice.com/read/introducing-the-vice-2016-mass-shooting-tracker
Mass Shootings - 2015 | Gun Violence Archive
Mass Shootings - 2016 | Gun Violence Archive
There were 375 mass shootings last year according to the FBI definition that a mass shooting involves more than three fatalities or injuries. That is more frequent than one a day. ignore much?
Oh, I forgot. They were all one offs and therefore cannot form a statistical body. WW II was merely a string of one off battles, too.
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This part of your post is simply untrue.
The FBI definition of a mass shooting is four dead in a random act.
The 375 number comes from the radically anti-gun reddit discussion group "Guns are Cool".
I believe the correct number by FBI definition is 14. Bad enough, but not 375.
Since you want to make this about the guns, rather than the perps. How about you tell us how many of those 375 mass shootings were done with legally obtained weapons, because what you advocate, is for the restriction of legally obtained weapons.
Well, a home grown terrorist with a record of 50 dead and 53 injured seems a bit of a high price to pay for freedom to buy whatever guns one wants, in the name of personal freedom. Exactly what personal freedom did those 103 people have except to be maimed or killed.
Ahh ...LOl well how strange is that reply. Cars were made for travel, and medications for healing many disease will also kill if misused.but they were NOT designed to simply kill humans or animals. Guns are!! You seem to have a hard time distinguishing between what is specifically for killing and those designed for other reasons, that dumb humans have found other uses for.
LOL....I think, you need to turn that question around......How many such incidences has gun control prevented?? It is very difficult to prove a negative. Obviously taking assault rifles out of the equation should be the first step. There is no reasonable purpose to owning one in private life.
And exactly who do YOU think I want to take guns away from?? As I have repeatedly said I am not for banning guns. For instance, I consider hunting a sport....how sporting is it to use an assault rifle against an unarmed animal.
All this guy had was an assault rifle and a hand gun. With even with just a hand gun, the carnage would have been limited. There would be be perhaps 5 or 6 dead before he was brought down. Even that many is too many, but 103 dead and injured is way over the top.
Switzerland has a gun in every home and everyone over 18 is trained to properly use a gun. That's what I call gun control.
Oh my gawd, you have finally gotten the point!! That perpetrator had legally obtained guns, licenses and all!! Why exacttly does a normal law-abiding citizen need an assault weapon??
That is what gun control does, it limits those sorts of weapons to those who do need them....ie, Armies defending their country against an aggressor is the only reason I can think of right now.
Yes and they can only keep them at home when they are learning to shoot or doing their yearly stint of retraining. AND there are very strict rules about storage of those weapons. Those rules (laws) are publicly posted in many places. And there are guns in every home at one time or another. This was a result of being surrounded on all sides by Nazi controlled countries. Of course, they chose neutrality and had to have a way to remain free.
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define assault weapon
and just so you don't make an even bigger fool of yourself... Florida law prohibits the ownership of machine guns (fully automatic weapons).
and don't bother with the 1981 exemption, as it would not apply in this instance.
Gun control is completely useless?? It depends, the 50 murdered in Orlando this weekend should have been packing, but then if there was more control, Omar, the terrorist might not have been able to get the guns he used, who knows anymore.
Just like the Paris attackers couldn't get guns because guns are tightly controlled in France.