Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Tecumsehsbones

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Oh for goodness sake. I will take a page from Bondo's book and point out that people have not had their cars ripped from their lives because drivers licenses were introduced along with seat belts or road rules.

Oh and may I also point out that any single parent looking after multiple children, with a gun handy, is likely to lose her life or perhaps that of one of her children.
Check out how often the owner of a gun or a member of the family die by that gun.
That isn't how statistics works.
 

JamesBondo

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LOL so, for many here it really is true........Quite a number of those who fear having their guns ripped from their grasp, really do equate their masculinity to their weapons.
I have no idea what you are talking about. I was talking about your desire to rip a gun out of the hands of a single mother trying to protect her children. How you managed to turn that into a masculinity thing probably eludes most people on this thread, as well as myself.

Note the main objections are to this comparison and not one word about better back ground checks, or who can sell or buy guns means nothing!! Sell the blooming weapons to anyone as long as it doesn't interfere with the (weapon) love of their lives.......

You are confused. Canada performs background checks on gun owners on a daily basis. When was the last time that you did any research on the matter?

Now what about the mother shot in a Walmart store before Xmas 2 years ago by her 18 month old, in front of shoppers and her two other children???

Would a background check on the 18 month old or the mother have helped?

Who gets the counseling??

You need counseling. You are much too emotional. You want to act hastily instead of approaching this topic rationally.

Mum is dead, the two year old doesn't understand what "dead" is, so that leaves husband & two other children. It certainly isn't me. I see and understand the solution, however, too many are afraid of losing their identity with giving up their favorite blankie

So, you can easily believe things about masculinity and blankets, but totally oblivious about how cruel your policies would be for independent women. Please seek help.
 

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I have no idea what you are talking about. I was talking about your desire to rip a gun out of the hands of a single mother trying to protect her children. How you managed to turn that into a masculinity thing probably eludes most people on this thread, as well as myself.



You are confused. Canada performs background checks on gun owners on a daily basis. When was the last time that you did any research on the matter?



Would a background check on the 18 month old or the mother have helped?



You need counseling. You are much too emotional. You want to act hastily instead of approaching this topic rationally.



So, you can easily believe things about masculinity and blankets, but totally oblivious about how cruel your policies would be for independent women. Please seek help.
Where to start here. 1) I would not rip the gun out of anyone's hands except perhaps a child's who has gotten hold of such a weapon. However, that opportunity has not happened as yet.

2) That "poor woman" I aspire to ripping the gun away from, would still be alive if, she stupidly, had not put a purse with a loaded gun into the same shopping cart as an 18 month old. Following a course of things not to do with a loaded weapon may have helped, don't you think?

3) In spite of all I say about Canadian gun laws being fine, that Canada should not adopt US gun laws, (as some here seem to want) BUT that the US should be adopting OUR laws I still get the same old, same old accusations

4) I do NOT need counseling, just because I am able express myself well enough to get a point across.

5) I see your associations to a child's blankie, I really should have used soother or thumb.

6) I am not oblivious nor cruel. I am one of those independent women who happens to live alone in both countries each year so I have a reasonable idea whereof I write.
 
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DaSleeper

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I like the way they say "a recent study" worded a bit different each time, but no link to the imaginary study...because mother jones knows that the lemmings who read their rag have the mind set to believe all their bullshyte and would not even bother to look it up!
 

bluebyrd35

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Good I am glad you noted the "a recent study" and the differences, but dismayed that you did not notice at least 3 links to account for the changes. You do realize that over the years things do change and in this case have become a bit worse.
 

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You can yap all you want, it still ain't how statistics works.
Firstly stats do NOT work, they are a collection of events/facts that a person, organization, department of gov't's etc, have collected. Accuracy of those facts depend on the agencies/persons that do the collection. If those agencies are invested in the results....they are not dependable.

Any stats depend on the bent of those doing the collection......so those collected by org./persons etc.. who have much to win or lose, must be adjusted accordingly. Ie.. any stats done on guns by or for the NRA are very suspect. Do you honestly feel all the weapons collected by those in the US who own most of the guns fear the government taking them away?? I am sure no matter how many guns or rifles the average gun owner has, the government can outshoot, outgun the whole lot of them.

I really don't understand why so many Americans distrust their government considering they elected them........hmmm.....on the other hand, looking at the Trump phenomenon..........

Oh by the way, I do not yap.....
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Firstly stats do NOT work, they are a collection of events/facts that a person, organization, department of gov't's etc, have collected. Accuracy of those facts depend on the agencies/persons that do the collection. If those agencies are invested in the results....they are not dependable.

Any stats depend on the bent of those doing the collection......so those collected by org./persons etc.. who have much to win or lose, must be adjusted accordingly. Ie.. any stats done on guns by or for the NRA are very suspect. Do you honestly feel all the weapons collected by those in the US who own most of the guns fear the government taking them away?? I am sure no matter how many guns or rifles the average gun owner has, the government can outshoot, outgun the whole lot of them.

I really don't understand why so many Americans distrust their government considering they elected them........hmmm.....on the other hand, looking at the Trump phenomenon..........

Oh by the way, I do not yap.....
Oh dear. You are completely lost in the woods now, surrounded, nay, permeated, by your ignorance.

Good thing you have the steady glow of hatred to sustain you.
 

JamesBondo

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Where to start here. 1) I would not rip the gun out of anyone's hands except perhaps a child's who has gotten hold of such a weapon. However, that opportunity has not happened as yet.

So you would not rip the gun out of the hands of a single mother that is trying to defend her family from a burglar crawling through the kitchen window?

What kind of anti-self defense activist do you think you are?
 

bluebyrd35

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Oh dear. You are completely lost in the woods now, surrounded, nay, permeated, by your ignorance.

Good thing you have the steady glow of hatred to sustain you.
LOL.....I don't hate anyone or anything. That is a waste of time and shortens one's life. I feel helping people to deal with their bent ways of dealing with their fears as my contribution to improving the mental state of some.

So you would not rip the gun out of the hands of a single mother that is trying to defend her family from a burglar crawling through the kitchen window?

What kind of anti-self defense activist do you think you are?
I would have brained the twit with either the baseball bat by the door or my 5 lb. wooden rolling pin which I keep on my counter. Oh but wait that fellow would need to use a step ladder to get in any of my downstairs windows. It would be much more fun going out and pushing the ladder over, then braining him. Taking a gun away from a young child is imperative but ripping a gun from the hands of anyone is rather stupid. I am having too much fun to spend my life worrying about "What ifs"
 

JamesBondo

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I would have brained the twit with either the baseball bat by the door or my 5 lb. wooden rolling pin which I keep on my counter. Oh but wait that fellow would need to use a step ladder to get in any of my downstairs windows. It would be much more fun going out and pushing the ladder over, then braining him. Taking a gun away from a young child is imperative but ripping a gun from the hands of anyone is rather stupid. I am having too much fun to spend my life worrying about "What ifs"

Fail! Not everyone is physically capable of running down stairs and toppling a ladder, nor are they capable of besting a burglar with contact violence. I guess, for you, self defense is only for the strong. Don't you think that it is a bit cruel that you think the weak should die at the hands of a burglar?
 

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Fail! Not everyone is physically capable of running down stairs and toppling a ladder, nor are they capable of besting a burglar with contact violence. I guess, for you, self defense is only for the strong. Don't you think that it is a bit cruel that you think the weak should die at the hands of a burglar?
For Gawd's sake have some sense.....If they are that weak, would they be quick enough to get to their gun and fire it, before they get mowed down. These people need bars installed on their windows and a life line attached to their wrist. They absolutely need to carry their cell phone at all times & make sure there is always a hiding place available!!

There are so many defense stratedgies available and a gun in one's hand, it is no guarantee of surviving anyone who intends to do hurt or damage to a person.

The gun could jam, it would be locked away in a strong box and then one could be too shaky and nervous to even aim properly, etc.etc. Your scenario of someone getting in through a window is rather silly. Unless the window was open or unlocked, that burglar would have to break the glass. Even doing that these days would be a problem considering how hefty the glass is made now. Or do your burglars, rapists etc. carry bricks around with them?? Even then that gives one time to go out the door, before that person got in the window. How funny is this becoming!!

I shudder to think of those so weak or infirm in charge of a gun. Do you not think, recommending a gun to such a weak, feeble person, instead of a good alarm system rather cruel??

.If one of those weak and feeble persons wishes to acquire a gun and follows the protocol/laws involved in the process, fine with me.
 
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