The Official Contempt for Alberta Thread

[petros]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

No? Why to massive inland ports to shuttle ingoing and incoming seacans by truck to and from rail in Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg.?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

This is the problem with the way Alberta's economy is structured.

Everything about the way modern economies are moving tells us that open enterprise and free trade comes with unsustainable consequences and long lasting damage that is actually much worse than any government controlled environment.

It's a nice dream but Alberta is the text book case of why the economy needs to be on a tight leash.

We sold our souls to the devil when we entered into trade agreements with China and India. That destroyed our manufacturing in this Country. Oil, which you might hate, was the one thing fueling the economy from coast to coast. You can rejoice all you want. The oil slow down is not helping your cause one bit. Production is on the rise, soon Iran will be flooding the market with more cheap oil.

The sagging dollar will lead to inflation on so many levels its mind boggling and you are cheer leading for carbon taxes which shows just how naive you are. You can yap about con-bots and neo-this and neo-that, but it was the Federal Liberals who sold our soul to Asia.

Now, we are reaping what we sow.

If you think oil isn't going to rise again, you're living in a dreamworld.

There won't be any truck drivers left in 20 years.

Really, how will your goods get delivered? Even if they shipped in by train or boat someone has to pick them up.

No? Why to massive inland ports to shuttle ingoing and incoming seacans by truck to and from rail in Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg.?

Man, it must be nice being a Mississauga NIMBY.

 

[gerryh]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

There won't be any truck drivers left in 20 years.

OMG... is it your life's ambition to ensure that EVERYONE knows you are an imbecilic moron?

 

[petros]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

We sold our souls to the devil when we entered into trade agreements with China and India. That destroyed our manufacturing in this Country. Oil, which you might hate, was the one thing fueling the economy from coast to coast. You can rejoice all you want. The oil slow down is not helping your cause one bit. Production is on the rise, soon Iran will be flooding the market with more cheap oil.

The sagging dollar will lead to inflation on so many levels its mind boggling and you are cheer leading for carbon taxes which shows just how naive you are. You can yap about con-bots and neo-this and neo-that, but it was the Federal Liberals who sold our soul to Asia.

Now, we are reaping what we sow.

If you think oil isn't going to rise again, you're living in a dreamworld.



Really, how will your goods get delivered? Even if they shipped in by train or boat someone has to pick them up.



Man, it must be nice being a Mississauga NIMBY.

Oil is only 3% of GDP. Manufacturing started caving in upon its self in the late 70s in Quebec. There was lots of heavy industry and a huge textile and garment industry. Smelters and steel, paper, furniture, food.....all gone.

 

[JLM]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

"This is just a temporary downturn."
-- Stephen Harper

I guess they all have been so far.............................but it did take 25 years to fully recover from the Great Depression!

 

[petros]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

Mollyfloss thinks fingers can be snapped, a magic wand waved and all is good.

Delusional.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

Really, how will your goods get delivered? Even if they shipped in by train or boat someone has to pick them up.

That comment should probably be in the Tech forum, but I suspect MF was referring to driverless vehicles. He is probably only partly right. Trucks may soon drive themselves, but people will still be needed to load and unload them.

 

[B00Mer]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

There won't be any truck drivers left in 20 years.

...and you don't know how true that statement is..

Daimler's Self Driving Truck Nevada Worlds First Licensed Autonomous Freightliner Inspiration CARJAM

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdSRUG4KTPA

Computer driving cars, automated McDonalds, automated Taxis, automation will put millions's out of a job.

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

No? Why to massive inland ports to shuttle ingoing and incoming seacans by truck to and from rail in Edmonton, Regina and Winnipeg.?

Because they won't be driven by humans.

 

[darkbeaver]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

Going with the noflow so to speak.

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Oil price plunge flipping migration patterns with people leaving Alberta

That comment should probably be in the Tech forum, but I suspect MF was referring to driverless vehicles. He is probably only partly right. Trucks may soon drive themselves, but people will still be needed to load and unload them.

Actually we might have an automated process for that too.

If you look at waste disposal in some municipalities, they already have a mechanism to pick up parcels.

You need a proprietary storage unit but if that were to become standard that would pretty much eliminate the need for human intervention.


I think that's just one way we move forward with a knowledge based economy.

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Solar energy set to shine in greener Alberta

Alberta solar co-operative to offer shares - The Globe and Mail

 

[captain morgan]

Re: Solar energy set to shine in greener Alberta

The company name Solyndra North by any chance?

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Solar energy set to shine in greener Alberta

Dunno.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Re: Solar energy set to shine in greener Alberta

Alberta solar co-operative to offer shares - The Globe and Mail

I wonder if they'll hold their value like Bill Bennett's BC Brick Shares?

 

[mentalfloss]

Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East

Please stay in your lair, NDP filth! /O'Leary


Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East

Alberta Premier Rachel Notley is set to meet on Friday with her Ontario counterpart, Kathleen Wynne, as the Western province seeks to build support for the proposed Energy East pipeline after it drew heat from Montreal-area mayors on Thursday.

With her province reeling from the impact of depressed oil prices, Ms. Notley is pressing Ottawa to approve crude pipelines to the east and west coasts that would provide Alberta’s industry with access to more lucrative export markets and support investment over the longer term.

Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre and several regional mayors announced Thursday that they oppose TransCanada Corp.’s proposed $15.7-billion project, saying it poses environmental risks with few benefits to Quebec. The proposed pipeline would move 1.1 million barrels of crude oil a day from Western Canada to Irving Oil Ltd.’s refinery and export terminal in Saint John. It would pass through heavily populated areas in the Montreal region.

“They didn’t do their homework, obviously,” Mr. Coderre said. “They were a bit arrogant, frankly. Let’s call a spade a spade: It’s a bad project.”

He said that the economic benefits are slim – with negligible job creation – whereas the possible environmental fallout, including costly oil spills, water contamination and human health concerns, is high.

Not surprisingly, Mr. Coderre’s criticism drew rebukes from three provinces with big stakes in the project: Alberta, Saskatchewan and New Brunswick.

Alberta Economic Development and Trade Minister Deron Bilous described Mr. Coderre’s statements as “both ungenerous and shortsighted.”

“Everyone loses if we destroy our resource economy,” he said in a statement.

Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall said the mayors were being “parochial,” adding that Quebeckers will “benefit to the tune of $10-billion in equalization payments this year.”

Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East - The Globe and Mail

 

[mentalfloss]

Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

More blows to oilpatch - Business News - Castanet.net

 

[DaSleeper]

Re: Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East

I wonder, if they use the Terrebonne line if they would put another pipe in the ground or use the existing line?
If my memory serves me from having worked on it in '75, it's only a 30" or 32" line...
Any experts here that can say how much such a pipe can carry?
I was just the Band-aid (ambulance attendant) on that job.
The engineers on the project never discussed the job when we had our drinks at the Rigaud hotel in the evening...:lol:

 

[DaSleeper]

Re: Alberta oilpatch workers not getting any sympathy from Canadians

 

[lone wolf]

Re: Notley Ontario-bound, aiming to rescue Energy East

It's not Energy East that's the worry ... it's the recycled fifty-year-old pipe - despite what the all-knowing say