The Need For Change in Our Education System

Cannuck

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I am not there I am here. I am not stuck on digital survival. Those who don't know how to satisfy the necessities of life with thier hands and minds will certainly become rarer in the near future.

Pretend all you want. I'm sure nobody will care.
 

darkbeaver

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hehehehe...you expect everybody to run their own business...how cute..

He is entirely correct in his expectations. Discovering what your own business actually is represents a great leap forward for the otherwise dependant.

Pretend all you want. I'm sure nobody will care.


There's no pretent in what I posted fool.
 

darkbeaver

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Dec 31 09:23

Fully 65 percent of U.S. universities unable to successfully teach their students math, economics, government, science and literature



The 2015–16 edition of What Will They Learn? – a review of 1,100 colleges and universities – has just been published by the The American Council of Trustees and Alumni (ACTA). The study shows that most institutions of higher learning are allowing students to graduate without a basic grasp of many key subjects.


I'm quite sure you actually believe that. Good for you.

I'm quite sure that your attitude will mean you no loger converse with your fellows here at some point in the near future because you are too ignorant of the reality of societal collapse.
 

Frankiedoodle

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The only thing that I have ingested lately is an egg salad sandwich. Actually there was plenty of parents who complained about the loss of cursive writing, and they put it back into the system.
 

DaSleeper

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You are at the till in a restaurant, about to pay with debit.
The total is $84.17 and you want to tip through the debit
machine and have the total equal exactly $100. You have
about four seconds to do the math in your head before
you look like a retard. Go!!

I usually pay with debit also, but almost always tip in cash,
as it's nobodies business (Revenue Canada) how much I
leave as a tip for our wait staff....
Yesterday at Tim Horton whatever I purchased came to $4.25...
I pull out a 5 dollar bill which the young girl promptly enters on her cash and the change shows up as 75 cents, but i had my other hand in the other pocket and pull out a quarter, because i don't like too much loose change...
Simple enough non?
Well the dingbat behind the counter had to cancel the sale and and enter $5.25 to figure out to give me back a loonie..
 

JLM

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When one signs a legal document does it not have to be in such a way that the squiggly f**king line is identifiable as "his/her signature"?
 

Ron in Regina

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Yesterday at Tim Horton whatever I purchased came to $4.25...
I pull out a 5 dollar bill which the young girl promptly enters on her cash and the change shows up as 75 cents, but i had my other hand in the other pocket and pull out a quarter, because i don't like too much loose change...
Simple enough non?
Well the dingbat behind the counter had to cancel the sale and and enter $5.25 to figure out to give me back a loonie..

Couple weeks back I'm at a McDonalds. Similiar situation.
Guy behind the counter shorts me a dollar in the change.

I point it out and have to show him several times for it to
sink in. He just didn't get it. He had to go get a supervisor
from out back (having a smoke), and have me show them
the receipt and the change, and explain the original transaction
in order to get the till open and get the missing loonie into my
pocket.

If kids can't count, how do they know when they're getting
screwed over (intentionally or not) by someone else who
also can't count?
 

davesmom

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You're stuck in the past. Kids need to count change less and less everyday. That's the point of the TED talk. Let's start teaching children in accordance with what they'll need in the future, not on what your generation needs. I'm 51 and I can't remember the last time I paid cash in a store or restaurant.

Some of us still pay cash. I deplore debt and pay cash whenever possible.

If kids don't learn math, who's going to program the computers in the future?

Surely you have noticed at some time that when the power goes down, everything grinds to a standstill? People eating in a restaurant can't leave because they can't use their credit cards. Customers with cash can't leave because the cash register won't open and there won't be a record of the sale. Supermarkets can't process the line-ups because the scanners and cash registers don't work.
We had a 5 day blackout in this area a couple of years ago and the service stations couldn't sell gas. Society is too dependent on computerized equipment and can't function without it.
If store clerks could add, subtract and multiply they could still carry on business when their computers are down by simply keeping track of transactions with a pen and paper.

The old time teachers did not have to put up with what today's teachers do, in many cases. My sister taught school in Vancouver for over twenty years until she had a nervous breakdown due mainly to what she had to deal with in the classroom. When she began teaching the majority of her students understood and/or could speak English. By the time she left the profession well over 2/3rds of her class were ESL students and due to government cutbacks ESL teachers had limited classroom time. This left my sister with students who could not understand anything she was trying to teach them which led some to act out - a few aggressively. She had had seen her paperwork increase twofold over the years, much of it having to do with government rather than the subjects she was teaching or the submissions of her students. She easily spent twelve hours a day with school work. Oh and her union screwed her over too.

No they didn't. My mother was a school teacher in the one-room schools of old. The kids respected the teacher, there was discipline backed up by the parents. There were rewards for good marks and failures for those who didn't learn.
Mother went back to teaching in the 1950's, taught for a couple of years and quit for good when she became aware of the 'no fail' policy, the lack of discipline allowed and the general futility of trying to teach kids who were allowed to do as they please backed up by the parents.
My niece is now a school teacher and has problems continually with unruly children who cannot be disciplined or expelled and expect to pass when they don't learn the curriculum.
One would have to be either very brave or crazy to be a teacher nowadays!
 

Cannuck

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When one signs a legal document does it not have to be in such a way that the squiggly f**king line is identifiable as "his/her signature"?

As long as the squiggly line is consistent. It can be as complex or as simplistic as you like.

I'm sure nobody, that doesn't know Ulf Nilsson, would know who this is

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Some of us still pay cash. I deplore debt and pay cash whenever possible.

Good for you however, this isn't about you. It's about future generations. You do understand the concept of the education system don't you?
 

JLM

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Don't be any denser than you already are. In any business if you want to get above fry cook at rotten ronnie's level you need math skills.

I'd amend that to dish washer. :)

when she became aware of the 'no fail' policy, the lack of discipline allowed and the general futility of trying to teach kids who were allowed to do as they please backed up by the parents.
My niece is now a school teacher and has problems continually with unruly children who cannot be disciplined or expelled and expect to pass when they don't learn the curriculum.
One would have to be either very brave or crazy to be a teacher nowadays!

That has to be the MOST brain dead decision ever introduced to the education system! How would a person like to be operated on by a neuro surgeon who is too dumb to pass the course? :)